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engunneer 11-01-2017 00:02

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
Why would they specify diameter? Non round rope is legal.

EricH 11-01-2017 01:05

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by engunneer (Post 1629067)
Why would they specify diameter? Non round rope is legal.

Yep--and some non-round rope might actually be better than round rope. See also "lifting sling".

KevinG 11-01-2017 08:00

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by engunneer (Post 1629067)
Why would they specify diameter? Non round rope is legal.

To eliminate webbing. Just because it's legal now doesn't mean it will be legal in a week. It was speculation.

engunneer 11-01-2017 08:13

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
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Originally Posted by KevinG (Post 1629128)
To eliminate webbing. Just because it's legal now doesn't mean it will be legal in a week. It was speculation.

This is not something I would expect to change. The manual even shows a tiny grainy picture of a piece of webbing as an example.

KevinG 11-01-2017 08:52

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by engunneer (Post 1629135)
This is not something I would expect to change. The manual even shows a tiny grainy picture of a piece of webbing as an example.

Good point.

carpedav000 11-01-2017 08:57

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by engunneer (Post 1629067)
Why would they specify diameter? Non round rope is legal.

This applies for non round rope as well. 1" max. diameter for round rope, 1" max. width for webbing.

Chris is me 11-01-2017 09:23

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
I'm honestly shocked it wasn't in Team Update 1. Somebody on the GDC has to have taken five minutes to look at RI3D. If Velcro is legal, it's really quite a lot easier than other methods as long as your winch can actuate a little to get a good wrap on it.

KevinG 11-01-2017 09:25

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1629157)
I'm honestly shocked it wasn't in Team Update 1. Somebody on the GDC has to have taken five minutes to look at RI3D. If Velcro is legal, it's really quite a lot easier than other methods as long as your winch can actuate a little to get a good wrap on it.

It absolutely would be the method we would use.

Bruceb 11-01-2017 16:45

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
Just an FYI. I searched Q and A and found there are already 4 questions asking about velcro on the rope. Hopefully we will find out Friday.

Mark McLeod 12-01-2017 09:08

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by engunneer (Post 1629067)
Why would they specify diameter? Non round rope is legal.

It just has to fit through a 1" channel in the Davit.

Lil' Lavery 12-01-2017 09:33

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by engunneer (Post 1629067)
Why would they specify diameter? Non round rope is legal.

FWIW, non-round objects can have a diameter as well. Diameter can apply to any convex polygon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1629157)
I'm honestly shocked it wasn't in Team Update 1. Somebody on the GDC has to have taken five minutes to look at RI3D. If Velcro is legal, it's really quite a lot easier than other methods as long as your winch can actuate a little to get a good wrap on it.

I'd hazard a guess that they're trying to make sure the entire GDC is on the same page with this, and are consulting each other to figure out the best way to respond (or update the rule). Thus not only the omission from Team Update 1, but also why the Q&A questions on the issue haven't been answered yet.

PayneTrain 12-01-2017 09:56

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1629838)
FWIW, non-round objects can have a diameter as well. Diameter can apply to any convex polygon.



I'd hazard a guess that they're trying to make sure the entire GDC is on the same page with this, and are consulting each other to figure out the best way to respond (or update the rule). Thus not only the omission from Team Update 1, but also why the Q&A questions on the issue haven't been answered yet.

Yeah, I would expect them to sit on the issue until TU2 comes out on Friday.

Bitwise 12-01-2017 13:09

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
For those lobbying for the all-velcro option, consider this. The Airship Field Tour video (~3:11) says the rope retention straps are made of hook and loop tape. It would be a shame if the "rope" did not deploy because it was snagged in the retention strap.

-Greg

Shavan M. 12-01-2017 16:36

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
You need to remember that Ri3D do not meet all rule requirements.

arichman1257 12-01-2017 22:21

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
Q6, Q21, Q44, Q45, and Q53 all ask about velcro and ropes. They are all unanswered.
I think that, with the rules as they are set now, velcro is a legal thing. But I think that that is subject to change as they may just ban it by creating a no-velcro-on-ropes rule.


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