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Hitchhiker 42 13-01-2017 13:50

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Clayton Yocom (Post 1630575)
I've only quickly read it, and haven't had time to fully internalize it, but the new team update only partially answers this question for me.

https://firstfrc.blob.core.windows.n...amUpdate02.pdf

A little typo on the website:
Quote:

(V1, updated Jan 13, 2017)
I'm assuming that should be V2, based on the other dates and versions listed here: http://www.firstinspires.org/resourc...nual-qa-system

Ogehsim 13-01-2017 13:56

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday (Post 1630586)
Can someone explain to me what "superfusion" means?

Quote:

For example, consider the limitation of the purpose of whipping or fusing to prevent fraying in I04-D and that FIRST Robotics Community members are innovative and may discover a way to fuse the end of the ROPE in a way that can be leveraged for competitive advantage. This “superfusion” extends the fusing’s purpose beyond only preventing fraying.
superfusion = a method of whipping/fusing/etc the end of the rope that provides some competitive advantage other than preventing fraying

lukekaiser 13-01-2017 14:24

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
My question is couldn't someone just braid, mesh or tie a rope of less than 1 inch out of yarn that would be strong enough to support a robot, and still use the "hook Portion" of the Velcro on the robots spooling mechanism? I feel like that would be really easy to create, and still have the "Velcro" properties that everyone is trying to achieve.

Lil' Lavery 13-01-2017 14:32

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lukekaiser (Post 1630632)
My question is couldn't someone just braid, mesh or tie a rope of less than 1 inch out of yarn that would be strong enough to support a robot, and still use the "hook Portion" of the Velcro on the robots spooling mechanism? I feel like that would be really easy to create, and still have the "Velcro" properties that everyone is trying to achieve.

There is currently nothing in the rules or Q&A that is preventing that.

Siri 13-01-2017 14:39

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitchhiker 42 (Post 1630597)
A little typo on the website:


I'm assuming that should be V2, based on the other dates and versions listed here: http://www.firstinspires.org/resourc...nual-qa-system

Section 9 Inspection? I think they're still on V1. They are crazy software people who start with V0, and TU1 didn't change Section 9 (so only one update in TU2, so V0-->V1).

KevinG 13-01-2017 18:15

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ogehsim (Post 1630603)
superfusion = a method of whipping/fusing/etc the end of the rope that provides some competitive advantage other than preventing fraying

Like melting the end of a nylon rope into a hook.

mman1506 13-01-2017 18:16

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
More clarification from Frank! http://www.firstinspires.org/robotic...need-answering

Sperkowsky 13-01-2017 18:26

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
I think this was the right decision.

Would you rather an Frc game where 50% of teams can climb or 20%.

Although I still think the bring your own rope concept sorta killed the climbing aspect of this game.

ckpash88 30-01-2017 09:22

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
So my reading of the update is that I can sew a strip of Velcro the whole length of the rope (one inch webbing for us) or the last couple of inches its our choice?

RoboChair 30-01-2017 13:39

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ckpash88 (Post 1638054)
So my reading of the update is that I can sew a strip of Velcro the whole length of the rope (one inch webbing for us) or the last couple of inches its our choice?

Velcro?

Yes, Velcro!

Mark McLeod 30-01-2017 13:49

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
Please, hook & loop. :)

Hallry 30-01-2017 14:10

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
Is it just me, or did the additions to rule I04 D and E (about the binder coat exception and the Retaining Feature not extending over 2 inches below the Davit fingers) added in Team Update 5 never get actually added to the Game Manual itself?

ckpash88 31-01-2017 11:08

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
I am not sure that you answered my question or got stuck on semantics of me calling something by a brand name.

RoboChair 31-01-2017 11:41

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ckpash88 (Post 1638607)
I am not sure that you answered my question or got stuck on semantics of me calling something by a brand name.

My post was not very serious. I was referencing the chute door meme in 2015. You can put your velcro anywhere you want below the davit basically(edit:Except the bottom 4 inches). It could even be multiple pieces.

Hallry 31-01-2017 12:20

Re: Velcro on rope?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RoboChair (Post 1638625)
My post was not very serious. I was referencing the chute door meme in 2015. You can put your velcro anywhere you want below the davit basically. It could even be multiple pieces.

Except for the bottom 4 inches of the rope.


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