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Mark McLeod 31-01-2017 08:41

Re: Can't connect to the robot
 
It'd be so much easier if you'd tell us what troubleshooting steps you have taken.
What other directions suggested in this thread and others have you followed?

- Does last year's radio still work as you said before?

- Turn off all firewalls, anti-virus, and third party network management software on your PC. Those all can block communications depending on how they were configured.

- Disable all other network connections (Disable not unplug)

- You can also try pinging roborio-6026-frc.local, roborio-6026-frc.lan, roborio-6026-frc.frc-robot.local

Judge2005 31-01-2017 20:29

Re: Can't connect to the robot
 
We were having very similar problems as described in the first post in this thread. This fixed it:
  1. Open a cmd window as admin.
  2. Type: netsh int ip reset c:\resetlog.txt and press enter
  3. Restart your computer

Hope this works for anyone looking for a solution to this.

BSV 01-02-2017 00:42

Re: Can't connect to the robot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1638528)
It'd be so much easier if you'd tell us what troubleshooting steps you have taken.
What other directions suggested in this thread and others have you followed?

- Does last year's radio still work as you said before?

- Turn off all firewalls, anti-virus, and third party network management software on your PC. Those all can block communications depending on how they were configured.

- Disable all other network connections (Disable not unplug)

- You can also try pinging roborio-6026-frc.local, roborio-6026-frc.lan, roborio-6026-frc.frc-robot.local

Sorry, I should have said that we looked at the WPI troubleshooting here: http://wpilib.screenstepslive.com/s/...anual-id=24193

as well as trying the other suggestions on this thread.

After your response, we tried a "ping roborio-2723-frc.lan" (did not work, couldn't find IP) "ping roborio-2723-frc.local" (also failed) and "ping roborio-2723-frc.frc-robot.local" (which got a response).

There is no firewall running. It seems that the DNS name is getting assigned incorrectly or not at all by the router, but I'm not a networking expert so I've no idea. Hopefully we can try again with the old radio in the next couple of days to compare results more closely.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judge2005
Open a cmd window as admin.
Type: netsh int ip reset c:\resetlog.txt and press enter
Restart your computer

This worked... for about 5 seconds before the driver station lost connection again. "ping roborio-2723-frc.local" continued to work after this, though, at least until we restarted the RoboRio to try to get the connection back. When we reconnected after the reboot, that address failed again.

Entering the IP address in the driver station in place of the team number seems to work, but, like I said, it's kind of a guess. It usually comes up as 10.27.23.21 but not always.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Mark McLeod 01-02-2017 08:09

Re: Can't connect to the robot
 
Since it works, you can type roborio-2723-frc.frc-robot.local into the Driver Station in place of the team number. That should keep you connected.

There does appear to be an oddity in the construction of the roboRIO DNS name on some setups where it throws that extra frc-robot into the mix.

It really disrupts Java/C++ downloads which check a variety of addresses to connect, but not that extra frc-robot address.
Then you have to add that extra address to the list it checks.

buchanan 01-02-2017 12:42

Re: Can't connect to the robot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1638936)
Since it works, you can type roborio-2723-frc.frc-robot.local into the Driver Station in place of the team number. That should keep you connected.

There does appear to be an oddity in the construction of the roboRIO DNS name on some setups where it throws that extra frc-robot into the mix.

It really disrupts Java/C++ downloads which check a variety of addresses to connect, but not that extra frc-robot address.
Then you have to add that extra address to the list it checks.

Thanks Mark! This is the condition we've been struggling with.It's great to know someone understands the problem; a solution is sure to follow. No pressure. :)

The "what do we do meanwhile" bottom line appears to be:
1) The DS won't connect. The workaround you gave handles this.
2) Cannot deploy from Eclipse. Direct connection via USB works around this. Back to the old IFI days.

Greg McKaskle 01-02-2017 13:37

Re: Can't connect to the robot
 
Can you clarify what the web page says that the device name is? Is it roboRIO-####-frc or does the name shown in the web page end in .frc-robot?

If so, can you remove .frc-robot to get it to work?

Greg McKaskle

Mark McLeod 01-02-2017 14:00

Re: Can't connect to the robot
 
In the cases I've seen the roboRIO has the expected
  • Hostname: roboRIO-team#-FRC
But with
  • DNS Name: roboRIO-team#-FRC.frc-robot.local
I can't edit the DNS name through the web browser and I haven't tried other methods.

On the PC connected to run the Driver Station it might or might not include a DNS Suffix Search List: frc-robot.local (from an ipconfig /all).
It appears to be somewhat random on any particular PC, i.e., I can have two side-by-side PC's attempting to connect and one will work, but the other fail. After disconnecting/restarting the radio both PCs may work.
Depending on if the PC has the search suffix then the Driver Station will connect, but code download still might fail probably from not including the unexpected DNS suffix.

I made Kevin aware of the issue.

buchanan 02-02-2017 00:28

Re: Can't connect to the robot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1639095)
roboRIO-team#-FRC.frc-robot.local

The unexpected ".frc-robot" is apparently confusing both the DS and Eclipse deployment.

What I have seen on my system (Windows 10):

1) Somebody, somewhere, is setting the "Connection-specific DNS Suffix" for the wireless adapter to "frc-robot.local" (see "ipconfig /all"). I don't know how this is happening but it looks broken to me. Radio firmware?

2) If you go to Control Panel->Network and Internet->Network and Sharing Center->Change Adapter Settings->(select) Wi-Fi->(tab)Change settings of this connection->(in dialog, select)Internet Protocol Version 4->Properties->Advanced->(tab)DNS, you'll see what appear to be a couple of ways to override the above setting:

a) Change "Append primary..." to "Append these..." and put "local" in the list.
-or-
b) Put "local" into the "DNS suffix for this connection" box.

In very limited testing either seems to work for me.

I am NOT a Windows expert (and wouldn't admit it if I were). If those who are disagree, trust them not me.

Mark McLeod 02-02-2017 09:59

Re: Can't connect to the robot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by buchanan (Post 1639350)
a) Change "Append primary..." to "Append these..." and put "local" in the list.
-or-
b) Put "local" into the "DNS suffix for this connection" box.

I've had success with this as well, but I haven't been able to vet it in all cases yet. I have to make my team rounds.
I had one case where it didn't help, because the PC suffix was wrong, but I didn't try adding frc-robot.local as an ending on that one.

Judge2005 02-02-2017 13:46

Re: Can't connect to the robot
 
One more observation to throw into the mix: everything works for over Ethernet. Interestingly, if I ping the roboRIO over Ethernet, it uses an IPv6 address.

Also, further to my post about netsh: for us it works until we switch the wifi to the Internet. Then when we switch back it is all broken again.

The only solution we have which seems to work for eclipse and the drive station (and hopefully GRIP) is to set a static IP address on the roboRIO, then add all host name variants to the Windows host file.

This makes me very nervous though: What is going to happen when we get to competition? We really need a permanent solution to this soon.

Judge2005 03-02-2017 06:56

Re: Can't connect to the robot
 
One more observation to throw into the mix: everything works for over Ethernet. Interestingly, if I ping the roboRIO over Ethernet, it uses an IPv6 address.

Also, further to my post about netsh: for us it works until we switch the wifi to the Internet. Then when we switch back it is all broken again.

The only solution we have which seems to work for eclipse and the drive station (and hopefully GRIP) is to set a static IP address on the roboRIO, then add all host name variants to the Windows host file.

This makes me very nervous though: What is going to happen when we get to competition? We really need a permanent solution to this soon.

SOBS7 04-02-2017 10:42

Re: Can't connect to the robot
 
We're expecting the Sam problem and easy fixes yet?

SOBS7 04-02-2017 10:46

Re: Can't connect to the robot
 
Unable to ping the Wifi but able to ping with USB cable to RoboRio.

SOBS7 04-02-2017 15:09

Re: Can't connect to the robot
 
Don't know how to edit previous post sorry. We solved our problem by simply disabling all wifi connections on the PC except the robot and it connected perfectly. It appears the wifi connection to the internet on the PC was the problem.


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