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falconmaster 13-01-2017 16:46

Re: Team Update 2
 
Ok , I guess I am missing something here. In the team update 2 why are there two knots in the Rope Anatomy diagram in Fig 9-2?

Also is the end with the loop, showing an option that you could use a loop or a straight piece with fraying prevention?

engunneer 13-01-2017 16:55

Re: Team Update 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by falconmaster (Post 1630744)
Ok , I guess I am missing something here. In the team update 2 why are there two knots in the Rope Anatomy diagram in Fig 9-2?

Also is the end with the loop, showing an option that you could use a loop or a straight piece with fraying prevention?

one knot is required (to hang from the DAVIT). the other knot is optional, and can be no closer than shown in the diagram to the davit knot. the number of optional knots is from 0 to N where N is unknown, but large.

the loop on the end is made using a segment of the rope, as a result, the end with fraying prevention is not part of the loop. since the loop is longer than the fray-prevented part, the loop constitutes the end of the rope for the purpose of length measurement.

jspatz1 13-01-2017 18:15

Re: Team Update 2
 
"...whipped or fused ONLY to prevent fraying." I interpret that to mean 'for no other purpose.' Q&A does not like to address specific design issues. They are trying to let us know Velcro will not be legal without saying it out loud.

Hobbes Novakoff 13-01-2017 19:15

Re: Team Update 2
 
From the blog it looks like they are allowing Velcro (or a velcro-like material) to be used.

Eric Scheuing 13-01-2017 19:41

Re: Team Update 2
 
Question on the whole velcro thing. It looked like the loop holding the rope up for most of the match was made of velcro. Should teams be concerned that their rope won't deploy properly and they won't be able to climb?

Cothron Theiss 13-01-2017 19:49

Re: Team Update 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Scheuing (Post 1630840)
Question on the whole velcro thing. It looked like the loop holding the rope up for most of the match was made of velcro. Should teams be concerned that their rope won't deploy properly and they won't be able to climb?

That is an excellent point if that's the case. Thankfully, the rope is released by the human players, so the human player should be able to remove the retaining strap from the rope even if it does present issues.

Blizzard3197 14-01-2017 11:57

Re: Team Update 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by engunneer (Post 1630580)
key points
  • 40kPA = RP (not 41)
  • Rope length measured from DAVIT (DAVIT tails don't count)
  • No tape on end of rope
  • Rope rules diageam with dimensions

So you can't get more than 40kPA in points (so no possibility of 2 RP), or do you mean that you ONLY get the RP if you have EXACTLY 40kPA?

jtrv 14-01-2017 12:28

Re: Team Update 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blizzard3197 (Post 1631077)
So you can't get more than 40kPA in points (so no possibility of 2 RP), or do you mean that you ONLY get the RP if you have EXACTLY 40kPA?

Previously, the manual said if your kPa "exceeds 40kPa" then you get the RP. However, they changed it so if your kPa "meets or exceeds 40kPa" you get the RP.

By the first definition, it was interpreted as you need 40kPa + 1 fuel in goal minimum to get the RP. Now you only need at least the 40kPa.

Tuba4 14-01-2017 12:45

Re: Team Update 2
 
This should settle the question. From the blog:

Q6: Velcro usage on a rope. Can a team use Velcro on a rope that they bring to the field? Can they place Velcro above the 4 inches that secures the rope end? Can it be place on the 4 inches that secures the rope?

Answer: Please see Team Update 02. Non-adhesive-backed hook and loop fastener may be part of, or the entirety of, a legal ROPE, provided that the ROPE is entirely made of "flexible, non-metallic fibers twisted, tied, woven, or braided together" per I04 (e.g. something stuck to or wrapped around the outside of the ROPE does not satisfy this requirement unless it's whipping as permitted per I04 part D).

Tungrus 14-01-2017 13:33

Re: Team Update 2
 
Yes, Velcro on rope is allowed per Q&A. However Velcro (only, to climb) is not allowed as it does not meet rope definition.


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