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Machining Sponsorship for FRC Teams
Hey Chief Delphi,
I'm a FRC Alum. I posted a thread a few weeks back about my new startup Anchor Labs (self-service CNC machining cloud) and we are happy to announce our FRC sponsorship program. We will machine CNC parts for FRC teams for just the cost of material + machining time * hourly rate (we waive all setup/teardown costs for FRC teams) and expedite all team orders. We ask that teams that participate put our logo on their robot and marketing materials. For teams with limited access to machine shop facilities or only manual machines, Anchor Labs will allow you to get precision CNC parts made at an affordable price. We allow users to design the toolpath in Fusion 360 themselves (and get an instant quote) or submit a CAD file from Fusion or Solidworks (manually quoted). If you are interested, signup on our site http://anchorlabs.io and fill out this sponsorship application: https://goo.gl/forms/EaI4Jjh5hmNiVYvt2. Good Luck This Season! Sam |
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I forgot to mention that if anyone has any questions, feel free to reply to this post or email support@anchorlabs.io.
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So, if you officially sponsor a team, then the cost of your machining servic s does not count against the cost of the robot. Is that correct?
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If money exchanges hands for material costs you'd be fine, because it would be like you buying the material and handing it to them. The moment money exchanges hands for labor I don't think you could call the party receiving the money a sponsor and not account for the fair market value of their labor on your BOM. The example in the blue box you quoted is meant to read that "their labor costs (the normal hourly rate Machine Shop XYZ would charge paying customers) do not apply (when work is done at no cost to the FRC team)". Unless you get a different response via Q&A you would need to account for the full dollar amount you paid Anchorlabs...but you would be getting a discount on that amount compared to if you were a random guy walking in off the street. |
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Differences between Ex 4 and Ex 5: Machine shop was listed as a sponsor in TIMS. I don't see how you could read those two examples and think that Example 5 exists for any reason other than to say "if you did what you did in Example 4, but put the sponsor in your team name instead, you don't have to account for FMV of labor". Like you said, Q&A will sort it out in short order though. |
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Excited to announce that our website now supports direct Solidworks uploads. You now can just drag your .sldprt files to the add part screen and they will be automatically imported into the online Anchor Labs portal for quoting.
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https://frc-qa.firstinspires.org/qa/327 It seems it is up to the team to determine if the employees doing the work are 'members' of the team, so in theory you could pay full cost for the machining but not include it in the CAW as long as you consider the workers members of the team. I wonder how this works for companies that sponsor multiple teams; can employees be members of multiple teams? |
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What should have been asked is "R12 states that 'labor provided by Team members (including sponsor employees who are members of the team)' is exempt from being included on the CAW. Is this still true if Company A is listed as a sponsor of our team, but we pay company A for both material costs and the fair market value cost of their labor to fabricate us parts?" Quote:
Some regions may not have the density of machine shops that others do, but nothing is ever 100% fair. |
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Why should one of these allow you to have a robot whose true cost is not reflected in the stated budget, but not the other? |
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With this argument, a team could list McMaster Carr as a sponsor and not have to list any of the items they purchase from them on the BOM. This is not the intent of the rules for BOM. I believe the rule as stated just indicates that "DONATED" labor does not have to included.... If you are paying for the labor (or machine time or whatever it is described as..) it is not donated.... so that cost should be included. We have great relationships with a number of industrial companies, some of which are SPONSORS for us and some are just sources of mentors or demos or field trips. If I purchased something from them I would have to put it in the BOM. (with the caveat of the KOP, etc). Our team cut parts for well over 10 teams last year and wlll continue to do this for any team that needs the help. I don't think that (with only one exception) any of them asked us for our machine time cost estimates or considered us a sponsor. I am NOT asking to be a sponsor, but I do wonder how many teams really understand this rule. |
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