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Ginger Power 20-01-2017 12:02

How much Power?
 
How much power* are you putting into the primary subsystems of your robot? In other words, what motors and how many motors are powering each system on your robot?

4607 has the following:
Drivetrain: 4 cims, 2 775pros
Intake: 1 775pro
Climber: 3 775pros
Shooter: 3 775pros
Gearage (Gear Mechanism): 0 motors

*What our programmers listen to (and by extension what the rest of our team is forced to listen to)

Oblarg 20-01-2017 12:05

Re: How much Power?
 
Right now it looks like:

Drive: 6 CIMs
Intake/Shooter/Indexer: All BAG motors
Climber: Mini-CIM

Are you sure about using 775s on the drive? Those do not handle near-stall conditions well.

Peyton Yeung 20-01-2017 12:12

Re: How much Power?
 
At this point 461 is looking at using

Drivetrain: 4-CIMs

Intake: 1-775pro

Conveyor/Hopper/Feeders: 3-9015s

Shooters: 2-775pros

Climber: 1 Minicim

Ginger Power 20-01-2017 12:13

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oblarg (Post 1633928)
Are you sure about using 775s on the drive? Those do not handle near-stall conditions well.

The 775pros are only powering our strafe wheels which are designed to slip before stalling. It'll be interesting to see how they hold up.

Richard.Varone 20-01-2017 12:28

Re: How much Power?
 
Drive: 6x CIMs + 2 Minis
Shooter: 2x 775 Pros
Climber: 4x CIMs + 2x 775 Pros
Intake: 1x 775 Pro/Bag
Indexer: 1x 775 Pro/Bag

Tehehehe yes those numbers are correct and legal ;)

Kudos to anyone that can figure out how crazy we are

Oblarg 20-01-2017 12:30

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard.Varone (Post 1633946)
Drive: 6x CIMs + 2 Minis
Shooter: 2x 775 Pros
Climber: 4x CIMs + 2x 775 Pros
Intake: 1x 775 Pro/Bag
Indexer: 1x 775 Pro/Bag

Tehehehe yes those numbers are correct and legal ;)

But, why? I'm having a very hard time imagining the utility of having that many motors on your climber. The drive is kind of overkill, too, but I can at least imagine situations in which it would make sense.

I mean, PTOs are great and all, but are they really necessary here (especially with *additional* 775s)?

Lireal 20-01-2017 12:31

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard.Varone (Post 1633946)
Drive: 6x CIMs + 2 Minis
Shooter: 2x 775 Pros
Climber: 4x CIMs + 2x 775 Pros
Intake: 1x 775 Pro/Bag
Indexer: 1x 775 Pro/Bag

Tehehehe yes those numbers are correct and legal ;)

You are only allowed to use 6 CIMS...

Oblarg 20-01-2017 12:32

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lireal (Post 1633949)
You are only allowed to use 6 CIMS...

The only reasonable conclusion is that they're using a PTO so that some of their drive motors double as climber motors.

Ginger Power 20-01-2017 12:35

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oblarg (Post 1633948)
But, why? I'm having a very hard time imagining the utility of having that many motors on your climber. The drive is kind of overkill, too, but I can at least imagine situations in which it would make sense.

I mean, PTOs are great and all, but are they really necessary here (especially with *additional* 775s)?

Half second climbs are going to be a very real thing...

Richard.Varone 20-01-2017 12:44

Re: How much Power?
 
Like I said if anyone can figure out the full picture I'd be very surprised, we have to one up our 44 wheels from last year after all. PTO is a start but not quite there ;)

Oblarg 20-01-2017 12:46

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginger Power (Post 1633952)
Half second climbs are going to be a very real thing...

I, personally, would be rather uncomfortable with the notion of a 150lb robot climbing that fast. That's not something I'd necessarily want our students to be around, either.

Then again, my team is not exactly shooting for Einstein, so perhaps one's sensibilities change at the higher levels of competition.

EricLeifermann 20-01-2017 12:47

Re: How much Power?
 
6 cims
6 775 pros
4 or 5 pneumatic cylinders

Ginger Power 20-01-2017 12:52

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oblarg (Post 1633963)
I, personally, would be rather uncomfortable with the notion of a 150lb robot climbing that fast. That's not something I'd necessarily want our students to be around, either.

Then again, my team is not exactly shooting for Einstein, so perhaps one's sensibilities change at the higher levels of competition.

Agreed... there's a reason I started this thread.

s_forbes 20-01-2017 12:55

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard.Varone (Post 1633946)
Drive: 6x CIMs + 2 Minis
Shooter: 2x 775 Pros
Climber: 4x CIMs + 2x 775 Pros
Intake: 1x 775 Pro/Bag
Indexer: 1x 775 Pro/Bag

Tehehehe yes those numbers are correct and legal ;)

Kudos to anyone that can figure out how crazy we are

I think you might run out of spots on the power distribution panel before you get all of those motors installed!

RoboChair 20-01-2017 13:04

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oblarg (Post 1633963)
I, personally, would be rather uncomfortable with the notion of a 150lb robot climbing that fast. That's not something I'd necessarily want our students to be around, either.

Then again, my team is not exactly shooting for Einstein, so perhaps one's sensibilities change at the higher levels of competition.

That's why our can grabbers were going ~30% the speed of sound when they hit the cans. I can use a lot of words to describe that mechanism but safe was so far down that list it may as well have been a mid-Atlantic boat anchor.

I expect to see some fast robots and some fast climbs, but I doubt many fast climbs will be sub 1.5 second.


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