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Ginger Power 20-01-2017 12:02

How much Power?
 
How much power* are you putting into the primary subsystems of your robot? In other words, what motors and how many motors are powering each system on your robot?

4607 has the following:
Drivetrain: 4 cims, 2 775pros
Intake: 1 775pro
Climber: 3 775pros
Shooter: 3 775pros
Gearage (Gear Mechanism): 0 motors

*What our programmers listen to (and by extension what the rest of our team is forced to listen to)

Oblarg 20-01-2017 12:05

Re: How much Power?
 
Right now it looks like:

Drive: 6 CIMs
Intake/Shooter/Indexer: All BAG motors
Climber: Mini-CIM

Are you sure about using 775s on the drive? Those do not handle near-stall conditions well.

Peyton Yeung 20-01-2017 12:12

Re: How much Power?
 
At this point 461 is looking at using

Drivetrain: 4-CIMs

Intake: 1-775pro

Conveyor/Hopper/Feeders: 3-9015s

Shooters: 2-775pros

Climber: 1 Minicim

Ginger Power 20-01-2017 12:13

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oblarg (Post 1633928)
Are you sure about using 775s on the drive? Those do not handle near-stall conditions well.

The 775pros are only powering our strafe wheels which are designed to slip before stalling. It'll be interesting to see how they hold up.

Richard.Varone 20-01-2017 12:28

Re: How much Power?
 
Drive: 6x CIMs + 2 Minis
Shooter: 2x 775 Pros
Climber: 4x CIMs + 2x 775 Pros
Intake: 1x 775 Pro/Bag
Indexer: 1x 775 Pro/Bag

Tehehehe yes those numbers are correct and legal ;)

Kudos to anyone that can figure out how crazy we are

Oblarg 20-01-2017 12:30

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard.Varone (Post 1633946)
Drive: 6x CIMs + 2 Minis
Shooter: 2x 775 Pros
Climber: 4x CIMs + 2x 775 Pros
Intake: 1x 775 Pro/Bag
Indexer: 1x 775 Pro/Bag

Tehehehe yes those numbers are correct and legal ;)

But, why? I'm having a very hard time imagining the utility of having that many motors on your climber. The drive is kind of overkill, too, but I can at least imagine situations in which it would make sense.

I mean, PTOs are great and all, but are they really necessary here (especially with *additional* 775s)?

Lireal 20-01-2017 12:31

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard.Varone (Post 1633946)
Drive: 6x CIMs + 2 Minis
Shooter: 2x 775 Pros
Climber: 4x CIMs + 2x 775 Pros
Intake: 1x 775 Pro/Bag
Indexer: 1x 775 Pro/Bag

Tehehehe yes those numbers are correct and legal ;)

You are only allowed to use 6 CIMS...

Oblarg 20-01-2017 12:32

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lireal (Post 1633949)
You are only allowed to use 6 CIMS...

The only reasonable conclusion is that they're using a PTO so that some of their drive motors double as climber motors.

Ginger Power 20-01-2017 12:35

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oblarg (Post 1633948)
But, why? I'm having a very hard time imagining the utility of having that many motors on your climber. The drive is kind of overkill, too, but I can at least imagine situations in which it would make sense.

I mean, PTOs are great and all, but are they really necessary here (especially with *additional* 775s)?

Half second climbs are going to be a very real thing...

Richard.Varone 20-01-2017 12:44

Re: How much Power?
 
Like I said if anyone can figure out the full picture I'd be very surprised, we have to one up our 44 wheels from last year after all. PTO is a start but not quite there ;)

Oblarg 20-01-2017 12:46

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginger Power (Post 1633952)
Half second climbs are going to be a very real thing...

I, personally, would be rather uncomfortable with the notion of a 150lb robot climbing that fast. That's not something I'd necessarily want our students to be around, either.

Then again, my team is not exactly shooting for Einstein, so perhaps one's sensibilities change at the higher levels of competition.

EricLeifermann 20-01-2017 12:47

Re: How much Power?
 
6 cims
6 775 pros
4 or 5 pneumatic cylinders

Ginger Power 20-01-2017 12:52

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oblarg (Post 1633963)
I, personally, would be rather uncomfortable with the notion of a 150lb robot climbing that fast. That's not something I'd necessarily want our students to be around, either.

Then again, my team is not exactly shooting for Einstein, so perhaps one's sensibilities change at the higher levels of competition.

Agreed... there's a reason I started this thread.

s_forbes 20-01-2017 12:55

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard.Varone (Post 1633946)
Drive: 6x CIMs + 2 Minis
Shooter: 2x 775 Pros
Climber: 4x CIMs + 2x 775 Pros
Intake: 1x 775 Pro/Bag
Indexer: 1x 775 Pro/Bag

Tehehehe yes those numbers are correct and legal ;)

Kudos to anyone that can figure out how crazy we are

I think you might run out of spots on the power distribution panel before you get all of those motors installed!

RoboChair 20-01-2017 13:04

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oblarg (Post 1633963)
I, personally, would be rather uncomfortable with the notion of a 150lb robot climbing that fast. That's not something I'd necessarily want our students to be around, either.

Then again, my team is not exactly shooting for Einstein, so perhaps one's sensibilities change at the higher levels of competition.

That's why our can grabbers were going ~30% the speed of sound when they hit the cans. I can use a lot of words to describe that mechanism but safe was so far down that list it may as well have been a mid-Atlantic boat anchor.

I expect to see some fast robots and some fast climbs, but I doubt many fast climbs will be sub 1.5 second.

Richard.Varone 20-01-2017 13:11

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by s_forbes (Post 1633969)
I think you might run out of spots on the power distribution panel before you get all of those motors installed!

I assure you that we have open spots left in our PDP.

We are a fan of rapid production quality prototyping, so I also assure you we have built a full prototype and it is almost fully functional ;) Teasers will come this weekend probably.

The motor math is not as it seems

GeeTwo 20-01-2017 13:31

Re: How much Power?
 
4 CIMs drive
1 CIM climb (with option for second)
Gear hanger (v1) is passive (get going quick for drive practice)
Active gear intake and hanging still in flux, but likely 2 or 4 BAGs and a half dozen or so servos.
Fuel: none planned at this time. Probably no more than a bag and a couple of servos at most.

Billfred 20-01-2017 13:37

Re: How much Power?
 
Right now, here's the Iron Kings list:

6 CIMs (chance we change to 4 and 2 mini CIMs)
1 775pro (with provisions for a second, if we need it)
1 Snow Blower Motor
2 9015s

piersklein 20-01-2017 13:42

Re: How much Power?
 
4 CIM Drivetrain
2 775 Intake
4 775 Shooter (or 1 bench grinder. haven't decided yet)
2 775 Climber

GeeTwo 20-01-2017 13:57

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard.Varone (Post 1633946)
Drive: 6x CIMs + 2 Minis
Shooter: 2x 775 Pros
Climber: 4x CIMs + 2x 775 Pros
Intake: 1x 775 Pro/Bag
Indexer: 1x 775 Pro/Bag

Tehehehe yes those numbers are correct and legal ;)

Kudos to anyone that can figure out how crazy we are

OK, a minimum of 11 motors if the Bag option is used:
  • 4 CIMs which can power either drive or climber
  • 2 CIMS + 2 minis which power drive but cannot be switched to climber
  • 2 775 pros for the climber, possibly the same as the 2 for the shooter
  • 1 Pro/Bag for the intake, possibly the same as the one for the indexer

Wild guess:
  • Mecanum, 2 CIMs on rear wheels, 1+1 on front (or vice versa).
  • Another shaft friction couples with/engages with shooter and rear wheels to power the climber.
  • Just for kicks, the same motor powers the intake and indexer, because while you're shooting, you're only taking in your missed shots at the intake.

pmangels17 20-01-2017 14:03

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeeTwo (Post 1634011)
Wild guess:
  • Mecanum, 2 CIMs on rear wheels, 1+1 on front (or vice versa).

I'm away at college so I'm not sure, but last I heard we won't be using mecanums. We've got a nifty new idea for 10-sided wheels that will give us more than point-contact traction every tenth of a rotation, thereby increasing our pushing power. All four wheels milled on a 5 axis CNC out of solid 7075 Aluminum billet.

JohnFogarty 20-01-2017 14:04

Re: How much Power?
 
1102

Drive - 4 x CIM motors
Intake - 1 or 2 Bag motors
Agitator - 1 x Bag motor
Shooter - 2 x 775 Pro motors or 3 x mini CIM motors
Climber - 2 x CIM motors.

Oblarg 20-01-2017 14:05

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pmangels17 (Post 1634018)
I'm away at college so I'm not sure, but last I heard we won't be using mecanums. We've got a nifty new idea for 10-sided wheels that will give us more than point-contact traction every tenth of a rotation, thereby increasing our pushing power. All four wheels milled on a 5 axis CNC out of solid 7075 Aluminum billet.

Don't you mean 7071?

pmangels17 20-01-2017 14:07

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oblarg (Post 1634022)
Don't you mean 7071?

Crap, you're right. Looks like I need to recheck the numbers.

Sperkowsky 20-01-2017 14:14

Re: How much Power?
 
4 Cims - Drive
1 775pros - Intake/indexer
2 775pros - Shooter
1 Bag - Climber
Either 1 Mini-Cim or another 775pro - Intake

pmattin5459 20-01-2017 14:15

Re: How much Power?
 
Last I heard:
6 CIM drivetrain
Four cylinders (2 gear delivery, 2 shifting)
1 or 2 CIM-type motors for climbing

JohnFogarty 20-01-2017 18:08

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1634028)
4 Cims - Drive
1 775pros - Intake/indexer
2 775pros - Shooter
1 Bag - Climber
Either 1 Mini-Cim or another 775pro - Intake

1 Bag for a climber....? How long does it take your climber to reach the top?

frcguy 20-01-2017 18:26

How much Power?
 
Drivetrain: 4 CIMs

Intake: 1 775pro

Scale: 1 MiniCIM

Everything else: not using motors ;)

Ari423 20-01-2017 18:30

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnFogarty (Post 1634176)
1 Bag for a climber....? How long does it take your climber to reach the top?

Assuming they're running at max power with a full battery, top speed of a BAG pulling a full robot's weight is about .6 ft/s. If their climber starts at the floor, it would take about 8 seconds. If their climber starts at max robot height, could be as short as 3 seconds. This is the fastest a single BAG motor could possibly run, but engineering tradeoffs could slow the climber down significantly.


P.S. - this seems like a good place to plug my new whitepaper, which allows you to calculate the optimal gear ratios and top speed for a given motor and load (found here)

Sperkowsky 20-01-2017 18:30

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnFogarty (Post 1634176)
1 Bag for a climber....? How long does it take your climber to reach the top?

Should be about 4 seconds.

Its hard to say until we have actually built the final mechanism but Jvn calculator should do for now.

Lil' Lavery 20-01-2017 18:54

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginger Power (Post 1633952)
Half second climbs are going to be a very real thing...

But why? I can understand lightning fast climbs in previous games, since it afforded you to spend more time on other actions right up until the end of the match. That's far less important in 2017. There's no such thing as "buzzer beaters" in 2017. Fuel takes 1-2 seconds to process at the very least (and can get backed up due to the limited processing rate). Gears are even worse, as the gears aren't actually what's being scored, rotors is. You have to allow time to place the gear on the lift, raise the lift, take the gear off the lift, place the gear on the airship, and spin the crank 3 times. That's going to take a few seconds at the very least. There's really very little advantage to being able to climb in <3 seconds.

I simply don't see the need to throw 800-1000W of power at your climber.

Nessie 20-01-2017 18:59

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frcguy (Post 1634178)
Drivetrain: 4 CIMs

Intake: 1 775pro

Scale: 1 MiniCIM

Everything else: not using motors ;)

Low goal? I look forwards to seeing vomit bots.

cad321 20-01-2017 20:37

Re: How much Power?
 
2386

Drivetrain: 4 CIMs
Intake: 2 775Pros
Indexer: 1 775Pro
Shooter: 1-2 (undecided) 775Pros
Climber: 1 miniCIM

Ginger Power 20-01-2017 21:00

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1634190)
But why? I can understand lightning fast climbs in previous games, since it afforded you to spend more time on other actions right up until the end of the match. That's far less important in 2017. There's no such thing as "buzzer beaters" in 2017. Fuel takes 1-2 seconds to process at the very least (and can get backed up due to the limited processing rate). Gears are even worse, as the gears aren't actually what's being scored, rotors is. You have to allow time to place the gear on the lift, raise the lift, take the gear off the lift, place the gear on the airship, and spin the crank 3 times. That's going to take a few seconds at the very least. There's really very little advantage to being able to climb in <3 seconds.

I simply don't see the need to throw 800-1000W of power at your climber.

Very fair points, I hadn't really thought about the fact that there are no buzzer beaters this year. My thinking was simply less climb time meant more scoring time. I suppose there isn't a huge advantage to climbing in .5 seconds vs. climbing in 2 seconds.

I think we're going to see many robots using the same motors to power multiple subsystems both through the use of PTO's and through pure creativity. I think that'll lead to a lot of teams being able to climb very quickly, hence why I said we'll see a lot of .5 second climbs. While .5 seconds might have been an exaggeration, I still think we'll see a lot of really fast climbs.

MrForbes 22-01-2017 14:28

Re: How much Power?
 
so far....

4 CIM drivetrain
1 CIM climb
1 compressor

Donut 22-01-2017 19:13

Re: How much Power?
 
Drivetrain: 4 CIMs
Fuel intake: 1 Bag or MiniCIM
Fuel indexer and injector: 1 MiniCIM or CIM (we are a low goal bot)

Still designing our gear manipulator, could use 1 Bag or may be passive.

Dan Waxman 22-01-2017 19:38

Re: How much Power?
 
Drivetrain: 4 CIMs
Gear: 1 Window Motor
Ball Shooter: 1 MiniCIM and possibly a servo
Ball Intake: 2 BAG Motors
Rope Climber: 1 CIM

Valkonn 22-01-2017 20:57

Re: How much Power?
 
Drivetrain: 4 CIMs
Intake/Conveyor: 1-2 Mini CIMS
Second Conveyor: 1 Bag
Shooter: 2 775 pros
Climber: 1 CIM

Hopefully all this jazz doesn't drain our battery too fast...

dirtbikerxz 22-01-2017 21:10

Re: How much Power?
 
DriveTrain: 6cims
Intake: 1 775pro
Elevator: 2 775pros
Shooter: 1 775pro
Climber: 2 775pros
1 revrobotics servo module

and 4 pneumatic cylinders

Kartoffee 24-01-2017 09:03

Re: How much Power?
 
The Bionic Blackhawks are using:

Drivetrain - 6 CIM's
Shooter - 1 775 pro (though I'm pushing for 2)
Intake - 2 BAG
Climber - 1 mini CIM
Gear - 1 bag and 1 snowblower/servo for actuating our grip on the gear

Unfortunately, I'm not sure I can really reveal too much information yet, but we're looking like we might be too tight on space to afford extra motors.

Our team is highly in favor of powerful drivetrains. Last year, we had only 4 CIMS, due to the design of our raised middle wheels to assist with the breach (4 wheels on carpet, 6 on some defenses). However, we also chose a 2 reduction clamping gearbox, and 8" wheels that made us both fast and strong. This year, we planned to do the same, but with 6 4" wheels instead. We calculated the speed to be about 4 ft/s, so that was quickly shot down. We would use the WCD design, but space is limited and the belts are obnoxious. I think what we did was a valid trade off, but I think we struck a balance of power and speed. No, we will not be using anything like Mecanum or Swerve. I don't plan on spoiling what we did with 6 CIMs though.

Our shooter currently has 1 775 pro, which is quite under powered. I'm in favor of adding another directly opposing, and removing our 3:1 reduction. This would give us a 2:1 stalling torque, yet still a 1:1 speed. As it stands, we barely reach the goal at maxed power (4 inch flywheel). My only concern is voltage. Last year, with 2 775's on our shooter, we had to be lined up before revving, else our voltage would drop and we couldn't move left and right. I think not having literally a square of pneumatic wheels would help.

As for the gear mechanism, well, let's just say I hope you guys get to see it sometime. It's really... unique? We hope that our strategy was correct and people don't plan on driving over gears.

Our climber is a winch, about 1.5-2" diameter, that will climb up webbing. It's a quick little thing, so we'll see how we do.

Our intake, in its prototype form, is required to throw the fuel up about 18". I hope this isn't the final design, especially with BAGs being inferior to 775's.

jijiglobe 24-01-2017 10:05

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginger Power (Post 1633952)
Half second climbs are going to be a very real thing...

Not 100% convinced that 1/2 second climbs will be worth it this year. Given the delay on ball scoring, using the last seconds of the match to score balls is less likely to come into play than in previous years. A 1 second climb doesn't seem unreasonable to me with a 2 Cim climber, so I suspect 271 has something more interesting up their sleeves.

But maybe that's just because I like them :D

MoistRobot 24-01-2017 10:33

Re: How much Power?
 
We'll be using-
drive train- 4 cims
shooter- 2 775 pros
collector- 1 775 pro
indexer- 1 bag
winch- 1 bag
various pneumatics

JamesCH95 24-01-2017 10:42

Re: How much Power?
 
6 CIM Drive
2 MiniCIM Climber
1x 775 pro shooter
1x 775 pro intake
1x ??? agitator
1x compressor

Chris is me 24-01-2017 10:49

Re: How much Power?
 
These aren't yet finalized for the most part. This is for 228.

4 CIM - Drivetrain
1 CIM (option for 2) - Climber
3 775pro - Shooter
1 BAG - Dumper
1 Minicim - Indexer
1 Minicim - Intake
1 BAG - Gear Roller

Some of the BAGs and MiniCIMs might get switched around, or replaced with more 775pros. Lots of VPs involved here.

I think our pneumatic usage will probably warrant an onboard compressor.

Monochron 24-01-2017 10:50

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnFogarty (Post 1634021)
1102

Drive - 4 x CIM motors
Intake - 1 or 2 Bag motors
Agitator - 1 x Bag motor
Shooter - 2 x 775 Pro motors or 3 x mini CIM motors
Climber - 2 x CIM motors.

Are they ignoring Gears? Or is that intake for Gears/Balls/OnlyGears?

Monochron 24-01-2017 10:59

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billfred (Post 1633997)
Right now, here's the Iron Kings list:
...
2 9015s

Why 9015s over BB550s or 775s? I have never really found the 9015s to be attractive because of the presence of those other options. If you are looking for a form factor smaller than the 775, what advantages does the 9015 provide over a BB550? From experimental motor stats, the 9015 comes in with a power rating below the BB550.

Peyton Yeung 24-01-2017 11:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monochron (Post 1635553)
Why 9015s over BB550s or 775s? I have never really found the 9015s to be attractive because of the presence of those other options. If you are looking for a form factor smaller than the 775, what advantages does the 9015 provide over a BB550? From experimental motor stats, the 9015 comes in with a power rating below the BB550.

From a location standpoint our team can get 9015s same day vs waiting on a 775pro or bb550.

Billfred 24-01-2017 11:57

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Monochron (Post 1635553)
Why 9015s over BB550s or 775s? I have never really found the 9015s to be attractive because of the presence of those other options. If you are looking for a form factor smaller than the 775, what advantages does the 9015 provide over a BB550? From experimental motor stats, the 9015 comes in with a power rating below the BB550.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton Yeung (Post 1635565)
From a location standpoint our team can get 9015s same day vs waiting on a 775pro or bb550.

Ding ding ding ding!

I've used a lot of BAG/775pro/etc motors in the past, and they're very good. But as a team 20 minutes from AndyMark HQ and sponsored by them, being able to get parts that afternoon and without shipping costs does give the products on the AndyMark shelf a lot of weight. Where it makes sense to go elsewhere, we go elsewhere. :)

JohnFogarty 24-01-2017 13:00

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Monochron (Post 1635550)
Are they ignoring Gears? Or is that intake for Gears/Balls/OnlyGears?

The students designed a Gear device that doesn't need any active mechanisms. I've seen the testing and like it a lot. If there is going to be an active part of it then it will likely be pneumatic.

Lil' Lavery 24-01-2017 13:14

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Monochron (Post 1635553)
Why 9015s over BB550s or 775s? I have never really found the 9015s to be attractive because of the presence of those other options. If you are looking for a form factor smaller than the 775, what advantages does the 9015 provide over a BB550? From experimental motor stats, the 9015 comes in with a power rating below the BB550.

Here's my explanation of why 1712 has historically opted for the AM9015 over the BB550. There may be specific applications where the higher power is worth the additional gearing required to get the free speed into a usable range (such as a flywheel shooter tasked with rapid spin-up), but for most high RPM, low-torque applications we opt for the 9015 over the 550. Plus most of those high RPM, high power applications we'd opt for a 775Pro over any 500 series motor.

xjschwen 24-01-2017 18:46

Re: How much Power?
 
Drive 4 Cims
Shooter 2 mini Cims
Climb 2 mini Cims
Intake 1 mini Cim

:cool:

ImMoMo 28-01-2017 17:46

Re: How much Power?
 
If you're using 775's to power your intake:

1. Are you using Versa Planetary, if so what reduction?
2. Dual or single input?

JohnFogarty 28-01-2017 19:03

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ImMoMo (Post 1637548)
If you're using 775's to power your intake:

1. Are you using Versa Planetary, if so what reduction?
2. Dual or single input?

Single input versaplanetary 25:1 reduction.

AveryLevin. 28-01-2017 19:39

Re: How much Power?
 
Teams should keep in mind that the roborio only has 10 pwm ports (if that is how they're planning to control their ESCs). And Relays only support 20 amps and lower (775s/CIMs/miniCIMs are greater than 20 amps).

Ari423 28-01-2017 20:34

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AveryLevin. (Post 1637585)
Teams should keep in mind that the roborio only has 10 pwm ports (if that is how they're planning to control their ESCs). And Relays only support 20 amps and lower (775s/CIMs/miniCIMs are greater than 20 amps).

10 PWMs on the roboRIO + 10 PWMs on a legal active MXP board = more than most teams will ever need

Lireal 28-01-2017 21:43

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari423 (Post 1637596)
10 PWMs on the roboRIO + 10 PWMs on a legal active MXP board = more than most teams will ever need

Also if you use talon SRXs, that adds another 64 motor controllers through CAN :p

Chris is me 28-01-2017 22:21

Re: How much Power?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AveryLevin. (Post 1637585)
Teams should keep in mind that the roborio only has 10 pwm ports (if that is how they're planning to control their ESCs). And Relays only support 20 amps and lower (775s/CIMs/miniCIMs are greater than 20 amps).

Even ignoring that various expansion boards exist to let you get to 20, Y-cables allow you to send the same PWM signals to different motors. So your drivetrain should only need 2 PWM ports even with 4 or 6 motors in it. Any intake using multiple motors can follow the same principle - only one unique signal, only one PWM port.

midway78224 28-01-2017 22:27

Re: How much Power?
 
6 cims(drivetrain)
1 mini cim(climber)
2 bags (intake and indexer for shooter)
1 775 pro (flywheel)
3 pneumatic cylinders

Lil' Lavery 28-01-2017 22:32

Re: How much Power?
 
Current allocation:
6CIMs
1 775 Pro
1 MiniCIM
5 Cylinders

Fusion_Clint 28-01-2017 22:55

Re: How much Power?
 
5 CIMs (4 Drivetrain and 1 Climber)
3 9015’s (Fuel Intake, Hopper agitator, Shooter Feeder)
2 775pro’s (Shooter)

Still haven't decided on gear mechanism, most likly it will be pneumatic.


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