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team222badbrad 19-12-2002 19:51

That has nothing to do with it
 
How do you know that the crate is the same size?? Just so you know it cannot be any bigger than the original size or they wouldnt be able to ship it;) ;) (trucks and airplanes have size limits)

Katie Reynolds 19-12-2002 20:50

Re: Game hint?!?!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Andy Grady
... Top secret operatives stationed in Manchester have noticed a large frequency of Poof Products Inc. trucks, in and around the vicinity of FIRST headquarters ...
There were also trucks with pictures of paintballing equipment spotted at Epcot last year (in the area where they built the National's stadium)-- Did you see any paintballing at the team party? ;)

I remember Dean last year (either at Nationals or at the Kick-off) saying something about how FIRST is, in fact, kind of like sports - but sports for the mind. Then something was said about FIRST being the 'Superbowl of science' at Nationals last year. And now Nationals is being held at Reliant Stadium ... Interesting ... :)

- Katie

Madison 19-12-2002 21:57

http://www.usfirst.org/robotics/2003/kickoffpreview.htm

Enjoy.

(FYI - the crate size limitations are listed in the recently released Administrative section of the 2003 manual.)

Jay5780 19-12-2002 23:08

Some interesting points from the link in the above post...

"The grand finale comes when this season's challenge is revealed, along with several new elements of the game. "We've probably made more changes in one year than ever before, and we think the combination of changes are going to make this a benchmark season,".

cryptic clue... "y = ax(2) + bx + c," he said solemnly, before adding with a chuckle, "Just don't ask me about the rumors about the gerbils and the thousand pounds of Jello."

The answer is Wait till 01/04/03

SlamminSammy 20-12-2002 00:14

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay5780
cryptic clue... "y = ax(2) + bx + c,"
Quadratics could mean projectile motion. Combined with foam balls and optical sensors, we may see robots playing football, or at least some fun programming :)....

Steve Shade 20-12-2002 00:50

I can Imagine Scores, Can you?
 
I wonder if anyone else has thought about imaginary numbers.......

Let's see the scoring goes something like the winner gets the number of points obtained by solving the quadratic equation where A, B and C are from the raw game score....... now that could mean we score Imaginary Points! I would have a whole new use for the Root-Locus Plot! I have no idea why I'm excited about that possibility and so what I've been studying a little too much for my last 2 finals (Control Theory and EM Wave Propagation). Hey, this is when I get my best (and usually more insane) ideas.

Steve

Suneet 20-12-2002 01:41

Quote:

Originally posted by SlamminSammy
Quadratics could mean projectile motion. Combined with foam balls and optical sensors, we may see robots playing football, or at least some fun programming :)....
Uh huh. Projectile motion seems like a reasonable possibility... Mabey high hoops surrounded by retroreflective tape that we can only shoot balls through :eek:

That, or a parabolic field/component...

Moshingkow 20-12-2002 07:21

Re: I can Imagine Scores, Can you?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Steve Shade
I wonder if anyone else has thought about imaginary numbers.......

Let's see the scoring goes something like the winner gets the number of points obtained by solving the quadratic equation where A, B and C are from the raw game score....... now that could mean we score Imaginary Points! I would have a whole new use for the Root-Locus Plot! I have no idea why I'm excited about that possibility and so what I've been studying a little too much for my last 2 finals (Control Theory and EM Wave Propagation). Hey, this is when I get my best (and usually more insane) ideas.

Steve

the only way your gonna get imaginary numbers would be if you make the x axis the ground, and go one floor below, shoot it towards the ceiling, and not hit it, or elevate yourself to a high point, reverse gravity, then shoot it at the ground, and still not hit it.

remember- roots are the x intercepts...

Ken Leung 20-12-2002 07:57

Re: I can Imagine Scores, Can you?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Steve Shade
I wonder if anyone else has thought about imaginary numbers.......

Let's see the scoring goes something like the winner gets the number of points obtained by solving the quadratic equation where A, B and C are from the raw game score....... now that could mean we score Imaginary Points! I would have a whole new use for the Root-Locus Plot! I have no idea why I'm excited about that possibility and so what I've been studying a little too much for my last 2 finals (Control Theory and EM Wave Propagation). Hey, this is when I get my best (and usually more insane) ideas.

Steve

For years Dean and Woodie made the scoring really complicated with multipliers and time factor... But last year was much simplier than before... Maybe they couldn't resist the urge, and do something like this and make this year's scoring really complicated.

This would force all the students to do algebra every single match. I like it :).

Ken Leung 20-12-2002 08:04

Re: Re: Game hint?!?!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Katie Reynolds
There were also trucks with pictures of paintballing equipment spotted at Epcot last year (in the area where they built the National's stadium)-- Did you see any paintballing at the team party? ;)

I remember Dean last year (either at Nationals or at the Kick-off) saying something about how FIRST is, in fact, kind of like sports - but sports for the mind. Then something was said about FIRST being the 'Superbowl of science' at Nationals last year. And now Nationals is being held at Reliant Stadium ... Interesting ... :)

- Katie

Remember, this is FIRST's headquarter, not Epcot. At Epcot, there could be lots of reasons a truck for paintball equipment would show up for... If it’s at FIRST place, there is a big chance the equipment is for the competition...

It could be used for some demonstration inside FIRST place, but what else beside a robotics competition for 600 teams need a TRUCK load of toys? Too bad Poof Products Inc. have too big of a variety of products...

My top guess is football... Then second guess is slinky's.

RebAl 20-12-2002 08:34

If you take a slinkey and hold it in two hands it makes a parabola, just a thought

Katie Reynolds 20-12-2002 08:49

Re: Re: Re: Game hint?!?!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ken L
Remember, this is FIRST's headquarter, not Epcot. At Epcot, there could be lots of reasons a truck for paintball equipment would show up for... If it’s at FIRST place, there is a big chance the equipment is for the competition...
I know, I know. I was just sayin' :)

- Katie

Nate Smith 20-12-2002 08:53

Re: Re: I can Imagine Scores, Can you?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ken L
For years Dean and Woodie made the scoring really complicated with multipliers and time factor... But last year was much simplier than before... Maybe they couldn't resist the urge, and do something like this and make this year's scoring really complicated.

This would force all the students to do algebra every single match. I like it :).

Quote:

From Team Forum Notes
(http://www.usfirst.org/robotics/2002...Forumnotes.pdf)

2003 game will be challenging, designed to be conducive for television, easier and less controversial scoring
I think this counts out pretty much any complex scoring formula...I'd say some form of projectile motion on the part of the scoring items(balls, cubes, etc) is the best bet...

Sean Conway 20-12-2002 09:23

Re: Re: Re: Game hint?!?!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ken L
My top guess is football... Then second guess is slinky's.
I think Slinky's (Slinkies?!?) are too fragile. Plastic ones will break too easily and metal ones warp. FIRST would spend a fortune on supplies of them.

Round foam balls are my first guess, then footballs. I'm hoping for footballs.

AJ Quick 20-12-2002 09:39

Watch the power up video, there are poof footballs used in that. Maybe the contest is similar, we need to get a football from up high, and collect balls... they said the game would be different... maybe we are playing with EDUrobots, and that is why they want us to be so familar with them... ;)


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