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IVIaxor 23-12-2002 23:40

your favoirte car
 
I know many FIRST teams are support by companies related to the automibile industry, but what do you actually think of american cars, or others.

Personally I like german cars (porsche, BMW), but I might settle for a 350Z or S2000 (both japanese).

Lets hear what you think!

AdamT 24-12-2002 02:00

My future collection of Mazda rotary vehicles....

'68 R100
'70 RX-2
'72 RX-3
'78-'84 (any of those years) RX-7 *1st generation*
'87 RX-7 *2nd generation, more specifically what I drive right now*
'93 RX-7 *3rd generation*
'03 RX-8

Man I love these cars....

http://www.mazdausa.com/rx8/heritage....asp?sniffer=1

MarkF 24-12-2002 02:10

Mazda? You're kidding, right?
Gotta be the ultimate rear wheel drive car, the Dodge Viper RT/10 or the GTS coupe. Few street cars can even come close to matching it, not only in speed but acceleration, power, and quite a few others. Then, this is just for the rear wheel division. I'd have to go Japanese for four wheel drives. That goes to the Mitsubishi GTO Twinturbo. A friend in Philadelphia owns one that has 950 horsepower. :-D Zero to sixty in about a second and a half, it's insane. Front wheel dirve? Forget it. The German cars, though, I'd go with the BMW Z4 over any.

AdamT 24-12-2002 02:26

Quote:

Originally posted by MarkF
Mazda? You're kidding, right?
Some people have one thing they like, I like rotary. I have also liked these cars since the time that I realized that one day I would get to learn to drive. These cars are unique from anything else in the world...

As for your viper and your other ones listed, I'd go with an italian car over any of those in an instant...

And to add to my collection...the only three muscle cars I would really love to own:

'60s Shelby Cobra
'67 Pontiac GTO
'71 Hemi 'cuda (yellow convertable baby)

Bill Gold 24-12-2002 02:29

Quote:

Originally posted by MarkF
Mazda? You're kidding, right?
What's wrong with Mazda? They're perfectly legitimate car manufacturers. I personally think that you're just a sheep for wanting a Dodge Viper such-and-such model. Yes, they're good cars, but are you so sure you'll be able to afford it when you're 35 or whatever the prompt question asked? Ok. Enough ragging on the sheep.

Hmm. The more I think about it, the more I don't really like the fact that we need to think we can afford this car by age 35. Screw it. I'll tell you what cars I like.

I've, personally, been very intrigued by British Aston Martin's and the older Lotus models ('65 Super 7), and by French Renault's, Peugot's and Citroen's. I also like the more recent Audi's (A6's, S8's, etc.), except the TT. I also can't forget my original favorites from my childhood, Mazda Miata's and RX-7's.

FotoPlasma 24-12-2002 02:51

Honda Civic Hybrid (with CVT).

/me swoons.

MarkF 24-12-2002 02:59

Beware: Controversial Opinion Contained!
Simply pu, I thk Mazda sucks. Eveyone I know who has a mazda had inumerable problem with it. I have yet to come across an owner of a mazda with no complaints about it. Yeah, the Miate looks cool, but it ends there. As far as I'm concerned,its too durn small! A guy cannot possily unfold himself from a Miata and not look like a dork. Again, just my controversial opinion.

Bill Gold 24-12-2002 04:08

Quote:

Originally posted by MarkF
Beware: Controversial Opinion Contained!
Simply pu, I thk Mazda sucks. Eveyone I know who has a mazda had inumerable problem with it. I have yet to come across an owner of a mazda with no complaints about it. Yeah, the Miate looks cool, but it ends there. As far as I'm concerned,its too durn small! A guy cannot possily unfold himself from a Miata and not look like a dork. Again, just my controversial opinion.

No need to add that pseudo-disclaimer. It’s not as controversial as you may think.

The way you write shows your inability to differentiate statements of opinion and statements of truth. You also need to take an English course or two to try to correct those pesky spelling and grammar problems. You're not alone; there are quite a few people on these boards who have those problems. I only mention those problems because it's incredibly hard to take you people seriously when your arguments are written as if by a twelve year old.

Getting back to the car discussion… Not only do Miatas look cool, they have very respectable power for a little roadster. As for “unfolding” a person when they get out of one, no, this isn’t true. The Miata is comparable to a Porsche Boxter, or a Mercedes SLK230 Kompressor in length/height dimensions (I was going to compare with Viper specs, but those were temporarily unavailable from Dodge’s website). If you’re going to rag on a Miata for being too small, then you’re indirectly ragging on those other cars as well. This isn’t to say that I’d buy a Miata, I just think they’re interesting and cool cars.

Now about problems with Mazda’s… There are problems with all makes of cars. Look back at Chrysler/Dodge. They’ve had tons of problems with transmissions, engines, suspensions, etc. For every instance of failure in a Mazda that you give me, I can give you one about a Dodge, so you can pretty much count this argument against Mazda as a wash. No need to continue here.

Go ahead and like your Dodge Vipers, Ford Mustangs, Chevy Camaros, Acura Integras and NSXs, Mercedes’, BMWs, and your Ferraris. That just makes you like 90% of the rest of America. Take that as you wish. Can anyone say “baaah baaah baaah?”

IVIaxor 24-12-2002 15:49

Quote:

Originally posted by Bill Gold
Hmm. The more I think about it, the more I don't really like the fact that we need to think we can afford this car by age 35. Screw it. I'll tell you what cars I like.
I picked the age limit because i thought the thread might get a little boring if we all just talked about what our DREAM cars would be (BMW M3 or Porsche 911 GT-2 personally). Rather I was hoping people would consider the practicality and the price of the car as well. With that in mind i think i might go with a Subaru WRX or Honda Accord V6, if I was feeling a little rich I might splurge on a BMW 330xi.

Of course, what I really want to do is build my own :D .

Andy A. 24-12-2002 21:26

I drive a Miata, and I have no complaint with it. Not only that, it's over ten years old now and the only major repair done was a clutch replacement, and then only because 4 people have learned standered on it. Clearly, after over a decade of production, Mazada must be doing something right with the Miata. It's not fast, its not big, and it's not noisey, but it is cheap to buy and own. They hold their own on the track against v8's and are fearless on twisty back roads. Add on the huge 'fun to drive' factor every Miata driver will atest to, and you have a cute, fun little car with a fantastic record. Chalk me up as one very happy Mazda customer.

So, don't nock a car you've never had a real chance to drive, espically when everyone you know with a mazada is probably 4 people, hardly a reasonable sample. I've heard American cars are big heavy beasts with terrible matinence, but I've never driven an American car in earnest, so what do I know?

Opinions are fine, but just take a moment to think about what your basing it on. Mazada, as nearly all Japenese cars are these days, are excellent, affordable cars. If they wern't, why would there be so many of them on the road?

-Andy

p.s. Im no short fry, and getting out of a Miata has never been a problem. If you're over 6 feet tall, yes, a Miata will be uncomfey, but then again, so will any sports car.

P.P.S. If I had the choice of another car, I would go with a WRX. The Miatas fun, but not so much in the snow... Anyone driven one of them new Z's? they look fun...

Brandon Martus 24-12-2002 21:31

Quote:

Originally posted by Andy A.
getting out of a Miata has never been a problem.
I couldn't get in it when I tried. My legs don't bend that way. :)

AdamT 24-12-2002 21:46

Quote:

Originally posted by Andy A.
If you're over 6 feet tall, yes, a Miata will be uncomfey, but then again, so will any sports car.
I'm 6'5" and I am quite comfortable in my sports car ('87 Mazda RX-7)...I've also never had any trouble getting in or out of any sports car. [edit] the only time i've had a problem getting out of a sports car was getting out of the back of a Honda CRX, but there's not an actual seat there :)

MarkF 24-12-2002 22:34

Ok, let me put it this way. My grammar and spelling mistakes are not really my own fault. English is my strongest subject by far. The problem I have is that my keyboard doesn't register correctly when I type in a java applet or html texbox when I type through AOL. I need to open Microsoft's Internet Explorer to get the keyboard to function properly. Anyhow, who's a perfect typist?
Also, the reason I rag on a certain car (the Miata in this case) is because I have been in one, and to me, it's too bloody tiny. I've been in only a few small cars, and my opinion is restricted to that, but the Miata is the smallest flippin' thing I've ever been inside. I tripped trying to get out. I know someone at school, by the way, who owns a Miata. It's got the trademark paintjob of a Viper (Royal blue w/ double white racing stripes) and the vanity plate on the rear says, "LIL VPR". I have an offer. Let's not tell each other how wrong our opinions are, but instead, how about we just point out how they are different. Agreed? Flame wars are not the intent of this forum, I'm sure.

Wetzel 25-12-2002 20:54

Miata? bah. I'll take the S2000 thank you very much.

The car I want? A Subaru Impreza WRX. Not a cheep car at $32K outfitted like I would like it, but I can drive it offroad. :D

My current car? A 1991 Geo Storm, and it gets me around just fine. Or did, until ice and a downhill turn introduced me to the curb and the joy of replacing just about everything attached to the left front axle. :rolleyes:


Wetzel
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I plan to drop the DOHC engine in there.

Ryan Dognaux 28-12-2002 12:07

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I want a VW of some kind... Jetta or Beetle will do. I just like their shape :D Hmm I could even go for one of these ...

AJ Quick 28-12-2002 14:02

Well, I've always wanted one of these:



http://www.gbprops.com/

MarkF 28-12-2002 15:45

Hehe...the beetle...I'm not too fond of that car, either. The shape makes me want to drive it to the top of a hill and roll it down....>:-)

JAH 28-12-2002 19:58

It has shocked me to see how many of you prefer foreign cars over good ol American cars. You all must be forgetting your Camaros, Mustangs, Corvettes, and other great classics which are still being manufactured today(other than the camaro which production ended last year.) If it was my choice of any car I would have to go for a 1970 Chevelle SS 454 with the LS-6 option package. If it had to be current I would wait till next summer and try to get myself a SSR. Those look pretty cool I think and I know it would be fast...just is a little bit too pricey for me at the current moment.


Thanks four pointin out me inpropar gramar Katie! And yes...those are purposely wrong! :D

QtKt 28-12-2002 21:37

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My favorite car is an eclipse spyder just because they look cool. :D

chellyzee93 31-12-2002 00:44

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Can't beat a classic.. 67' GT500 shelby mustang

MarkF 31-12-2002 16:11

Quote:

Go ahead and like your Dodge Vipers, Ford Mustangs, Chevy Camaros, Acura Integras and NSXs, Mercedes’, BMWs, and your Ferraris. That just makes you like 90% of the rest of America. Take that as you wish. Can anyone say “baaah baaah baaah?”
Why do you insist of making youself sound like a snob? Number one, how does that make me like the rest of Americans? I NEVER like something because someone else likes it. The Viper appeals to me for it's incredible handling and power. I say handling because it has a better grip on the road than a BMW Z3, while it's average speed is so much faster. The Mustang I simply like because, frankly, it's the coolest looking reasonably priced vehicle around as far as I'm concerned. I've never been interested in Acura or Mercedes, though I'd love to be the proud owner of a Corvette.

What is the matter with you, anyhow? Did you happen to wake up on the wrong side of the bed that morning? Every one of those comments were uncalled for and VERY innapropriate. Hope you feel better today...

Bill Gold 31-12-2002 17:45

Quote:

Originally posted by MarkF
Why do you insist of making youself sound like a snob? Number one, how does that make me like the rest of Americans? I NEVER like something because someone else likes it. The Viper appeals to me for it's incredible handling and power. I say handling because it has a better grip on the road than a BMW Z3, while it's average speed is so much faster. The Mustang I simply like because, frankly, it's the coolest looking reasonably priced vehicle around as far as I'm concerned. I've never been interested in Acura or Mercedes, though I'd love to be the proud owner of a Corvette.

What is the matter with you, anyhow? Did you happen to wake up on the wrong side of the bed that morning? Every one of those comments were uncalled for and VERY innapropriate. Hope you feel better today...

Gee. Why wait this long to try to flame me by saying that what you interpreted as a flame was out of order or some !@#$? Why not in one of your two other posts since my comments? On second thought... I really don't care. What you (in particular) think is inappropriate doesn't really affect me. I don't feel like dealing with you anymore. Have fun stuck in the Chit-Chat Forum.

Johca_Gaorl 01-01-2003 01:01

1969 Mustang Mach I
1964.5 Mustang (gotta have the original!)
1971-1973 Mustang Mach I
AC Cobra
1993 Cobra
1993 Cobra R
1995 Cobra R
2000 Cobra R

I could deal with a new Corvette or Viper (not the '03 Viper though, UUHH-GLY!) Nissan Skylines and MR2's are nice also. I'll probably always stick with good old American Muscle though.

DanL 01-01-2003 01:12

my car, accessories and all:

MarkF 01-01-2003 01:13

Who's flaming you? I simply would like to know why you feel the need to belittle yourself by making futile attempts at putting me down. Why do you feel the need to tell me that my opinion is wrong? Did you ever consider that maybe, just maybe, someone else's opinion is just as valid as yours? Or did that thought never cross your mind? You can't possibly be that self-centered. Far be it for me to DARE to say anything that contradicts the pearls of infinite wisdom that spew forth from your typing fingers. Can't you take a little agressive contructive critisizm? No harm was meant, but coming at me like I called your mother a (deleted explitive) is a little much. Ask yourself this...are you REALLY all that superior to the rest of the human race? It's seems as though you think so from your choice of words, or, should I say, your choice of !@#$.
By the way, in case you were wondering, I waited because you are not very high on my priority list. People with an apparent lack of class tend to be the last people I try to talk to.

Have a nice day. ;)

Oh, one other thing...why didn't you answer my question?

Brandon Martus 01-01-2003 01:24

Um. Both of you can cool it. Thanks.

FotoPlasma 01-01-2003 03:08

Quote:

Originally posted by Brandon Martus
Um. Both of you can cool it. Thanks.
Word.

MarkF 01-01-2003 13:04

I am cool, hehe, just curious as to why he isn't. :) By the way, back to the discussion....the Mercedes CLK GTR......the ULTIMATE street legal supercar! Mwahahahahah!!!

MikeFromTeam71 01-01-2003 14:15

first off, i believe that if you live in america, you buy american. if you dont believe that then good because thats your opinion and you have to stick to it.

as soon as i get the money i would have a 2003 dodge viper rt/10, then soon after that would be a 2002 dodge viper gts-r. i am a HUGE viper fan, if you couldnt tell. after i had those i would cap it off with a suzuki 750RR katana and a mullen m-11 tsi-r. in the luxury cars, an aston martin V12 vanquish. finally, i would have to get an old classic. a 1971 chevelle ss 454.

that is my dream collection. i think for every 2 or 3 good cars, you need to have a good bike to cruise on when its hot. a nice mix of old cars and new cars also doesnt hurt. i think i have a well rounded group. :D

Mike

MarkF 01-01-2003 15:38

Guy down the street from me has a Mitsubishi GTO Twinturbo with 930 Horsepower.......I timed his acceleration at the track...0-100 in less than 3 seconds.

And I beg to differ. I just like the 1998 Dodge RT/10. I'll take a GTS any day, but given the choice, I want the RT just for the concave rear windshield. *grins*

MissAbi 01-01-2003 16:46

I want an El Camino.

MarkF 02-01-2003 01:47

I guess the most reasonable car I'd want would have to be a relatively new model Mustang GT. I don't care exactly what year...just within the past three. I've actually checked around; I've found them for as low as $20K.

purpledaisy 02-01-2003 12:36

cars?
 
umm... I'm so clueless as to not even warrent posting here (ask mark... he knows my car knowledge), but I have some questions for all of you.
1) with car preferences as in "better" handling, how much of it is opinion, how much actual road tests?
2) when i get a car, i don't want a flashy pick-me-up-cuz-i'm-pretending-to-be-rich car, i just want one that will work reliably and get good gas mileage. preferably small. recommendations? (and don't give years, please, this is for future)
3) I know there are major differences between the differing sports cars (i'm not that clueless), but can someone tell me (without dissing any of them) what these are? What are the different strengths and weaknesses of the major ones?
ok, thanks!

Stacia <- the shame of her team's car freaks

MikeFromTeam71 02-01-2003 14:21

1) usually "better" handling is a combination of opinion and fact. a number of variables come into effect (lateral g-force, wheel shake/spin, skid-pad tests, etc.)

2) good cars for mileage and reliability, i would have to say saturns. my mom has one and it gets 30+ to the gallon, takes $10 to fill it to the brim, and runs perfect in almost any weather. after 40k miles, it still purrs like a kitten. unless you want to go to the extreme. in which case i would have to say the honda insight, i think it gets 50 or 60+ to the gallon, but like i said, the extreme.

3) for one, vipers are known as high torque and horsepower cars, yet poor handling for the amount of power they are making. basically a drag racing kind of car, more for muscle than handling.

mustangs are not bad, but i have heard (correct me if i am wrong) that at high speeds the back end of the car actually sits down somewhat and shifts from left to right slightly. otherwise it is an okay car.

the camaro is also pretty good, even though they dont make them any more. they last forever and is truly a car that never goes out of style. but, much like the viper, its more for muscle and not much handling.

the new vw beetles are stupid looking to me, but the new rsi makes it look a little better to me. not bad on the mileage and very small, but still can have a 140+ mph top speed.

if you live in california, i would have to recommend the Mullen M11. at under $40k with a lateral skidpad test of 1.08 g's, its nice. custom made and naturally very very light, it has a ford quad cam 2.6 liter V6, which is all it really needs. 0-60 in 5 seconds, about 1800 lbs stock (1650 with the new carbon fiber body), $31,450 base price, and 160+ mph top speed. i am a big fan of mullen and how they can do so much with very little.

Those are my opinions, not yours. Feel free to correct them or add something. But please respect mine much like I respect yours.:)

MarkF 02-01-2003 19:38

Re: cars?
 
Yes, Vipers are VERY high torque/output, but they do need to be handled correctly. Not for the unexperienced....not that I am, I just know what I do from observation. It tends to spin out for all the horsepower supplied to the rear wheels, however, the racing circuits that they are generally put through aren't much different than that of any other sports car. Bendy roads are easily handled; you just can't accelerate too hard as you come out of the turn. The actual tire treads themselves are specially made for the Dodge Viper, the rear tires giving more traction that the front to counter. As a rule, the acceleration and overall speed of the car is more than enough to make up for the small amount of time lost in the turns, where one must slow down considerably and acelerate slowly until the turn is complete.

The Mustang is a bit unstable. The front end provides considerable lift and makes, as you said, for a shaky ride in the rear end. This is why they modified the Mustang Cobra-R. If you look, you'll notice an extra-long foil under the front bumper. This is to reduce airflow underneath the car and thus decrease the lift of the rear end. The Mustang Cobra is preferred by FAR to race, for that lone reason.

Both, from what I know, are very good street cars. Extremely good control on the road in most conditions...not all, but most.

As for you, honey....
Toyota and Nissan are known very well for their mileage and performance. My grandfather's Corolla is almost as old as I am and the only thing currently wrong with it is the dashboard indicator for the hazard lights doesn't work. That's it. Some of the more unreliable cars are, ironically, most Porche models and quite a few Cheverolets. The Camaro, while not one to fall apart, makes too bloody much cabin noise (engine noise that filters into the driver's area), just like the Corvette. Most other cars to me are varying degrees of average, depending on what you're looking at. Most.

OneAngryDaisy 03-01-2003 19:02

For a blend between looks and cost, the Z-3 Coupe wins hands down.. All those Vipers and Porsches have their weakness- my teacher can't even drive her Boxster through snow.. Now I just gotta fit in that tiny car...


for starters or cheap cars, the Civic is unmatched in reliability- my dad has an old 94' civic and he's paid squat for repairs- even after hitting a thousand potholes and animals..

anish 03-01-2003 20:07

s13 Nissan Silvia.

Alphawolf829 04-01-2003 01:45

I prefer Chevy... to me nothing beats american muscle cars.
72 Chevelle, 69 Camaro, 67 Corvette. My dad used to own and work on these kinds of cars. We still work on them, we just don't own any. :(

Wetzel 04-01-2003 02:55

Try the Cannonball Baker Sea-to-Shining-Sea Memorial Trophy Dash for a good measure of a car. :cool:


Wetzel
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Ask Brock Yates

Nelly51987 30-01-2003 21:18

definatly a pinto.... fire engine red!

Harrison 31-01-2003 00:43

It's all about Lexus (Toyota).

I've got an ES300 right now:


I would love to have a GS400, SC430, or maybe an LS430 (but, alas, I don't have $80,000).

Even the Toyota line is mostly pretty nice. Avalons are awesome cars for their price (basically a cheaper version of the Lexus ES300).

The Sienna is pretty much the nicest mini-van in existance: My parents have one, all leather, heated seats, 6-disk in-dash CD changer (it feels like a Lexus...lol), and it's got a nice engine (v-6 220HP), and of course, I can borrow it from my parents and stuff (which always helps).


Koko Ed 31-01-2003 09:38

Quote:

Originally posted by MarkF
Beware: Controversial Opinion Contained!
Simply pu, I thk Mazda sucks. Eveyone I know who has a mazda had inumerable problem with it. I have yet to come across an owner of a mazda with no complaints about it. Yeah, the Miate looks cool, but it ends there. As far as I'm concerned,its too durn small! A guy cannot possily unfold himself from a Miata and not look like a dork. Again, just my controversial opinion.

My wife owns a Mazda 626 and we have not had one single problem with it.

Personally while I currently own a Hyundia I usually prefer Fords and have my heart set on getting an Escape.

Johca_Gaorl 31-01-2003 11:47

Quote:

Originally posted by Koko Ed
Personally while I currently own a Hyundia I usually prefer Fords and have my heart set on getting an Escape.
Ford Motor Company owns:
Ford
Lincoln
Mercury
Mazda
Volvo
Jaguar
Land Rover
Aston Martin

Don't believe me? Go to www.Ford.com

Koko Ed 31-01-2003 12:18

Quote:

Originally posted by Johca_Gaorl
Ford Motor Company owns:
Ford
Lincoln
Mercury
Mazda
Volvo
Jaguar
Land Rover
Aston Martin

Don't believe me? Go to www.Ford.com

I'm aware of that. Many foreign auto makes are owned by the big three.
In truth in this global economy there really isn't what you could call an American, Japanese, German (ect.) car anymore. Many cars have parts built from many different places. It's how business gets done nowadays.

johnscans 04-02-2003 21:56

anyone else hear a heartbeat,

the heartbeat of america that is. good old corvette. 1969 427 (bring it, 1993 ZR1 (bring it again), 2002 z06(its already been broughton). 3 generations of the greatest cars ever made. american muscle, high displacement. high torque. grumble, not a whine. and i didnt even mention the l-88.

john scans

Matt Attallah 05-02-2003 08:17



Made in America to fix things that aren't!!


Dodge Ram (new gen 2003+) w/ the 5.9 and all opts!!!

khssoccer16 05-02-2003 13:13

It's All About GM
 
All I can say about Ford is that it stands for Found On Road Dead!!! The only car I would even want that they produced was a Viper....How many companies can make the Corvette, Chevelle, Camero, and the Trans Am...

Johca_Gaorl 05-02-2003 13:38

Re: It's All About GM
 
Quote:

Originally posted by khssoccer16
All I can say about Ford is that it stands for Found On Road Dead!!! The only car I would even want that they produced was a Viper....How many companies can make the Corvette, Chevelle, Camero, and the Trans Am...
I could be nice and give you a chance to go back and edit this, but too bad for you.

1. Dodge makes the Viper, that's just sad that you got that wrong.
2. It's a Camaro, not a Camero, I'm a Ford guy and I know that.
3. Need I point out all the 5.0s on the street that will own Corvettes? And that's just one of Ford's great engines/cars.

Mustang
Mach I
Cobra
Cobra R
GT
Ford GT
Lightning

Those are just the fast ones that Ford themselves make, not to mention the fact that Ford has a lot better aftermarket support (Saleen, Roush, Steeda, etc.).

My blood is Ford blue, but I don't see it as necessary to attack each other, except in good fun. Heck I wouldn't mind owning a new T/A, Vette, and Viper.

One more thing, it's First On Race Day, get it right. :p

Matt Attallah 05-02-2003 15:35

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! :D

The only thing Ford people are good for is to put money back into the economy! GM is just retarded. They steal the ideas from other companys (look at their new trucks and tell me that DODGE RAMs didn't have that tail light before the GM Trucks did...) GM is just a rip-off of a company. Look at the RX-8 and the SS concept. Tell me that that isn't a rip-off

RX-8

SS Concept

GM is just a rip-off company, Ford is just flat out cheap. Ford has the most recalls amongst any other car company out there. (but I will say, Ford has sold the most cars out of any other company for fairness)

Now, I'm assumeing that you all should know by now that I am a Chrysler man. Dodge/Jeep specifically. Chrysler has the title for having most cars sold with a turbo! (WooT!)

Alex Forest 05-02-2003 17:34

Quote:

GM is just a rip-off company, Ford is just flat out cheap. Ford has the most recalls amongst any other car company out there. (but I will say, Ford has sold the most cars out of any other company for fairness)

hmm. and this is why ford has only had 2 recalls for 2003, and chrysler has had 4 already.

p.s. my mom has a dodge minivan. its 3 years old and on its third transmission. well it was. as of saturday, it is in the shop again because it can only go 15 mph.

Matt Attallah 06-02-2003 08:20

Ok, now, when you took it to the mechanic, did he put in Merceron or Dextron III or something like that?

For ALL CHRYSLER TRANNYS! (FROM THE BEGINNING TO 97) YOU HAVE TO PUT ATF +3 THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED! I had a Jeep Cherokee w/ the I-6 4.0 and all of it is original parts. 92' w/ 180,000+ mi!!!

My Proof (click here)

There's my proof. Make shure that that mechanic puts ATF +3 APPROVED BY CHRYSLER!! Some +3s are not up to specs w/ Chrysler's specs...

BTW, and, so what? Chrysler is just better at catching their stuff. Ford will just wait till someone is hurt! (LOL! Srry! :D :rolleyes: )

Alex Forest 06-02-2003 08:50

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Chrysler is just better at catching their stuff.
???? Then why didnt they catch their mistake the LAST couple times we have sent it in.

and i have a FORD mustang. It is perfect. no problems. gorgeous. *sigh of satisfaction*

Dush 06-02-2003 09:52

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personally my car have to be like my women full of curves,and really fast so either a older trans am '69 or so or the newer pontiac Vibes

Kit Gerhart 06-02-2003 12:56

Quote:

Originally posted by JAH
It has shocked me to see how many of you prefer foreign cars over good ol American cars. You all must be forgetting your Camaros, Mustangs, Corvettes, and other great classics which are still being manufactured today(other than the camaro which production ended last year.)
The trouble with the American car companies is they are so busy making trucks that they have gaping holes in their car offerings. If you want a sporty, but utilitarian rear drive car that will carry items of cargo like RC airplanes, the American companies don't have it. I recently bought a slightly used Lexus IS300 Sport Cross. It is Toyota's competition for the BMW 3 series and Mercedes C class. It has a high tech inline 6 engine, independent rear suspension, and handles like a very good sports car, but has about 6 feet of cargo floor with the back seats folded down. It looks a little funny at the back, but it drives as well as a BMW 330 sedan.

If one ot the "big three" made something like it, I would have considered it, but for now at least, trucks are the high priority items for the American companies.

Johca_Gaorl 06-02-2003 13:24

Lexus IS3000 = U-G-L-Y

if you want something sporty that carries cargo, try a 1987-1993 Mustang Hatchback, they have a whole lot of cargo, especially with the rear seats folded down, RC plane, no sweat.

But IMO, if I want to haul something, grab the truck, if you are going to fly an RC plane, you are going to a field or something right? (i.e. probably very mild offroad) so I would rather be driving a truck.

On a separate note, Alex's car is perfect.

Kit Gerhart 06-02-2003 14:34

Quote:

Originally posted by Johca_Gaorl
Lexus IS3000 = U-G-L-Y

if you want something sporty that carries cargo, try a 1987-1993 Mustang Hatchback, they have a whole lot of cargo, especially with the rear seats folded down, RC plane, no sweat.

But IMO, if I want to haul something, grab the truck, if you are going to fly an RC plane, you are going to a field or something right? (i.e. probably very mild offroad) so I would rather be driving a truck.

On a separate note, Alex's car is perfect.

I agree that the IS300 is not the best looking car in the world, but it's certainly not ugly in the way a Pontiac Aztec is ugly. Anyway, "ugly" is subjective.

As far as the '87-93 Mustang, there is no comparison with the IS300. The Mustang, while fun, is a very crude machine in comparison. It has a solid rear axle which tranlates to a "loose" rear end on anything but very smooth surface. The car is, in general, crude, noisy, and "rough around the edges," and it gets much worse gas mileage than the IS300. The IS300 is smooth, quiet, and at least as fast as late 80's and early 90's V-8 Mustangs, and much faster than 6 cylinder Mustangs.

The "off road" component of going to most RC flying fields can be handled very easilly by any vehicle, including Corvettes, Ferraris, and Vipers. Trucks are for hauling heavy stuff, or in the case of pickup trucks, are for hauling dirty stuff that you don't mind being stolen. If you like quiet, refined cars that handle like sports cars, but will carry some cargo, then BMW and Mercedes wagons, and IS300 wagons like mine fill the bill. There are a few other such vehicles out there, but none of them come from "big 3" manufacturers. I hope that will change in the not-too-distant future, but I'm not holding my breath.

E Jones 234 06-02-2003 15:12

i have a high-quality p.o.s. car... it is a "2-toned" standard trans. '93/'94 Geo Metro that has seen more than a few wrecks in its time. Sadly, :rolleyes: after school today it stalled and wouldn't start again. ok... 45 minutes later i return to school and after a thorough inspection of my 'go-cart' the results are inconclusive, but now it runs. darn... i was hoping for a 'new' car!

ChelseaC 14-02-2003 19:59

i'm not to much of a genius on cars, but the second i have the money...(and i will save for it...I've already started..:)) i will buy myself and Audi TT quattro, just because the first time i drove it i feel in love going 90 on Indianwood rd...(lake orion, mi) very hilly very cury... and never really going under 70.. i thougt it dove like...
"my dream boat..."

Matt Attallah 14-02-2003 20:05

I'm just gonna say two things...

LOOK AT MY SIG!! THAT OWNS YOU!!!

Raven_Writer 14-02-2003 23:09

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt Attallah
I'm just gonna say two things...

LOOK AT MY SIG!! THAT OWNS YOU!!!

lol. I like cars that run

Wetzel 14-02-2003 23:14

I'm rather partial to the Iszuz Impulse RS myself.
Ok, some specs:
I-4 turbocharged, intercooled DOHC
Horsepower 160 hp @ 6600 rpm
Torque 150 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
Weight/power ratio ~16.5 lb/hp
0-60 7.0 sec
Skidpad: 0.88 g
Lotus designed suspension
EPA rating, city/highway 29 mpg/42 mpg


Daily driver with performance.:D

Now if only I can find one near me for sale...only 800 RS were sold in the US. Can pick one up in good condition for ~$1.5k.
Its a pocket rocket, dosn't really look like one.
Impulse in White


After that, the Storm Gsi.


Wetzel
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
mmm...small, sporty, and a curvy two lane road

Johca_Gaorl 15-02-2003 00:20

Ford 2001 SVT Lightning

How about a supercharged 5.4-liter V8, generating 380hp and 450 ft-lb of torque?

Specs:

0-60 mph - 5.8 Seconds

1/4 Mile - 13.9 Seconds @ 100 mph (seen faster times)

0-100-0 mph - 22.0 Seconds

Top Speed - 142 mph

braking, 60-0 mph - 136ft

80-ft slalom - 63.6 mph

100-ft skidpad - 0.85g-

4 speed Automatic (4R100)

3.73 axle gears

18 x 9.5" cast alloy wheels with Goodyear F1-GS 295/45ZR-18's

12.1" vented discs in front, 13.1" in the rear

Besides the fact that it looks better. And it can tow your viper home when it breaks :)

Hermione692 15-02-2003 02:35

wow.. u guys really like cars :)
I'm very simple, just give me a Honda (w/ automatic transmision)and I'll be happy :)
Hermione

dwolf 26-02-2003 17:31

must have military tank- dont care who built it

Onizuka 26-02-2003 17:47

nissian skyline GT-R34

Body 2 door coupe
Engine RB26DETT 2.6L straight six, front mount - 4WD
Drivetrain 5spd manual (6spd), electronically controlled LSD
Torque control ATTESA E-TS (Pro)
Suspension Independent multi-link front/rear
Length 4675 mm
Width 1780 mm
Height 1360 mm
Weight 1530 kg (1540 kg)
Wheelbase 2720 mm
Ground clearance 145 mm (135 mm)
Turning radius 5.7 m
Brakes Brembo 4 pot 324mm ventilated discs front, 2 pot 300mm rear
Wheels 18x9 alloys with 245/45R tyres

0-100 km/h 5.1 seconds
1/4 mile 12.58 seconds
Maximum speed 180 km/h (limited)

dream car...:D

jzampier 26-02-2003 18:04

FAST NOW!
 
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/auto/ar...3014-2,00.html
Either one of those... or a McLauren F1...
or a Ferrari Enzo... anything else is just
second best.

Then several friends in high political offices to
get me out of the 200+mph speeding tix.
:ahh:

TomFrom71 03-03-2003 12:29

Keep it simple. Expedition, Blazer, Surban, Denali, Excursion. If you want speed go with the Dodge Ram 1500 with the Hemi.

Kit Gerhart 03-03-2003 16:42

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Originally posted by TomFrom71
Keep it simple. Expedition, Blazer, Surban, Denali, Excursion. If you want speed go with the Dodge Ram 1500 with the Hemi.
If your main goal is to make sure you get your share of the world's oil before it's all gone, or if you went to help fund Osama, then these trucks are good choices. Otherwise, unless you are towing or driving off-road, cars and minivans make more sense. Also, cars are more fun to drive, unless you are one of the few people whose driving fun consists of going over rocks at 2mph. If that's your bag, a Jeep Wrangler is hard to beat, especially for the price.

Kiwi_queen 04-03-2003 11:16

I'm quite happy dreaming of that 1955 Ford Thunderbird Convertible in a turquoise color with white trimming and big white fuzzy dice hanging from the rear view mirror. V6 engine would be fine, but I'd prefer a V8. nice 17" chromes...mmm...what a beauty it would be. oh, not to mention neons lining the bottom of the dashboard...in blue or green.
the rest of the interior would be the original stuff, no need to toy with that.
I'd love enough power under the hood to make that baby roar louder than the rest.

Mike Schroeder 04-03-2003 12:13

well, my favortie car... is the 1989 Ford Bronco Eddie Bauer edition.. gosh i luv that car i wish i had it.... oh wait i do

MTS 22-03-2005 12:14

Re: your favoirte car
 
I have little respect for the imports, I'm an american muscle man. Dream= 70' Chevelle SS convertable with deap navy metallic body and an ivory top. Complementing the White leather buckets would be a growling 454 (w/ a pair of flowmasters) and a diehard 4 speed muncie and a gear grabbing hurst shifter sending face distorting tourque to the helpless real wheels via a 4:10 read end. :eek:

Kit Gerhart 22-03-2005 13:14

Re: your favoirte car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MTS
I have little respect for the imports, I'm an american muscle man. Dream= 70' Chevelle SS convertable with deap navy metallic body and an ivory top. Complementing the White leather buckets would be a growling 454 (w/ a pair of flowmasters) and a diehard 4 speed muncie and a gear grabbing hurst shifter sending face distorting tourque to the helpless real wheels via a 4:10 read end. :eek:

A few years ago I thought I'd like to have "the car of my dreams," but then I drove one. The car was a '67 Coronet R/T. The one I drove was not a prime specimen, nor was it equipped the way I'd prefer, but the bottom line is that I have become very spoiled by the perfection and refinement of today's cars, import and domestic.

Regarding the "rough" 67 Coronet I drove, it was fast and would "light up" the tires with ease as is to be expected for a 3500 pound car with a 440CID engine. Beyond that, it was not much fun. The clutch was very stiff and the shifter was stiff and had very long throws. Of course, 60's Mopars are much better with an automatic, but that wouldn't fix the poor handling and bad brakes compared to today's cars.

I understand some people's liking the sensory stimulation of 60's and 70's muscle cars, but for people around my age I know who have them, their reason is more a nostalgia thing. They now have the car they fantasized about driving but couldn't afford when they were kids or young adults.

Swampdude 22-03-2005 13:43

Re: your favoirte car
 
I'm sad to say this year when I become an adult "35" I will likely be buying a foreign mini van and not "the car of my dreams". I think you should set your age bracket to under 25 or over 55. Because once you start poppin out kids, you can kiss all those cool toys goodbye!
I once had a 69 mustang fastback - that was awesome. I also had a 93 5.0 lx mustang again very cool. But now I have a Saturn l100 and a Chrysler Town and Country Lxi mini van - the biggest piece of junk I ever had the privilege to own. But I do have a Honda Goldwing GL1800 - that's my BABAY!

Jay H 237 22-03-2005 18:36

Re: your favoirte car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swampdude
I once had a 69 mustang fastback - that was awesome.

Nice! :) Someday when I have the space, and of course the finances, I want to locate and restore a '69 convertible. Basically I want a "project car" but not a "basket case". I want to lightly modify it but nothing permanently irreversible. I also want to paint it green or yellow for the simple fact that almost everyone paints thier cars red or black when they redo them, I want it to stand out and be slightly different.


And Kiwi Queen, this is for you. ;)


JoeXIII'007 22-03-2005 19:14

Re: your favoirte car
 
In a car, I care about the following:
*Whether it works or not
*Roboustness
*Interior must be really cool, techy, futuristic in some aspects, and not rich (AKA Bling-Bling etc.)
*Outside color must be either dark dark blue, pure white, or black
*Low noise level

And the biggest priority:

*It cannot look like the average car, truck, SUV, etc.


With that in mind, the PT cruiser is just plain ugly nowadays, and the element looks cool, but not as cool as my choice: an aztec. It's just a gorgeous car.

Ali Ahmed 22-03-2005 19:38

Re: your favoirte car
 
I'll have to go with a German car, probably a BMW 3-series or a MB E-class. I am saying this because of experience. My family owns a BMW 750iL, MB 500 SEL, MB 400 E, and a VW Golf. I wouldn't mind a VW either. German cars are just meant to last. The youngest car is a 2003( the Golf) and the others are 1992(400 E), 1989(BMW), and 1985 (500 SEL). Sure there is some upkeep to them but what car doesn't. We also own a Dodge Ram 250 with an I-5 Cummins Turbo Diesel ('92). If were to go with a truck I would go with Dodge or GMC. Those things will last.

Mike Schroeder 22-03-2005 20:02

Re: your favoirte car
 
I would love to one day Own a 67 Shelby Mustang Gt500 its most definatly my dream car, not just any mustang, its gotta be like the one from gone in 60 seconds i things that car is beautiful :)

if not atleast a 2005 mustang, i love the new retro look :)

tml240 22-03-2005 20:23

Re: your favoirte car
 
MB any Class except G class. It has probably the most advanced technology on the car I've ever seen. MY mom has 2001 MB C-Class, cheapest. Its computerized system has kept the car safe and stable... It never had flaws (for its programming at least) and detected errors right away and was able to fix it qiuckly (replacing lights, coolant, etc.) And the four year warranty you get certainly worth the money you pay... :)

But, again, I'm impressed with car's consistent perfomance over the years and the advanced technology it contains.

Andy A. 23-03-2005 01:24

Re: your favoirte car
 
I wouldn't mind having one of These .

It's the 3rd gen Miata, just recently unveiled to the public. It's a nice change from the 2nd gen miatas, which suffered from ever increasing curb weights with out any increase in power or handling. I'm not sure how I feel about the styling changes yet. I had hoped for a more retro feel, maybe even a return to flip up headlights. I just likes the old days.

Some quick specs:

In-line 4 DOHC 2.0 liter engine with variable valves. A flat torque curve and a targeted 160 horses at redline (6,700. cutout is probably around 7,200). This is pretty much the same engine as will end up in the Mazda3 (replacing the current 2.0), but with a vastly different intake and exhaust track.The entire block sits behind the front axle again.
There are options for a 5 or 6 speed manual transmission or a 6 speed 'sport' automatic.
Theres no data given for handling yet. Given the 50:50 weight balance and the Miatas history of being for having the best handling for the money, you can expect these little buggers to be big hits at autocross events. It's been described as the first generation Miata done with the budget and technology the design team wanted 16 years ago. Considering how much I love my 'low tech' Miata from '90, its hard to believe it could get better.

And this one even has things like airbags! Just think, getting hit in this Miata just might not be a death sentence.

Can't wait for a test drive.

-Andy A.

Ryan Albright 23-03-2005 03:25

Re: your favoirte car
 
MMMM i am not a car person now a truck on the other hand




ram 3500

now thats what i am talking about

greencactus3 23-03-2005 23:17

Re: your favoirte car
 
not the best car around or anything but thinking conventionally unless i hit it big with an invention of sorts i think id be getting a 1st gen mr2,crx,trueno or sumthing along those lines of compacts. im sure when im 35 those cars would be antiques but heh, honda/toyota/nissan w/e else would make sumthign along those lines again.


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