I don't think the human player even matter. I don't really see any large difference in human player capabilities except for their height and the ability that would give them to make a stack. Anything else would kind of be a waste of time considering unlike the robot the HP can pretty much do anything.

Ok. Well, i've been a little bussy with school these past few weeks, and haven't been able to put a lot of time into this. However, now that I have more time, and have thought more about multi-team scouting, I have some ideas.

Instead of trying to do a HUGE scouting project collecting all sorts of 'Match Data', lets just go small this year with collecting 7(approx) small things on each team. This data would have to be mostly subjective :( and would need to be able to be done all on Thur. from talking to teams in the pits. Also, while our team has 6 ppl that will do nothing but scouting, most teams aren't that way. SO, the collecting needs to be able to be done by one person.

I want to see many different types of apps that can collect that data. (Ex: MS Access, Pocket PCs, Palms, Excel?, Filemaker, and totally paper.) Now, I (and others on my team) could handel access, ppc, and paper... but I'd need some other teams that can make an app in Palms or Filemaker to make one. (So that I don't need to take the time to fumble my way though making one :) ) oh... All output needs to be done in XML

Then, people could upload their data to www.feds201.com I'm going to make the system so that you don't need to do any registeration to submit data. I know that this would leave a door open for ppl uploading good data on their team more than once, but I'll log ips and if I see a lot of entries for one team from one ip... I will also like to make a Poll type of thing so that people could just vote/submit data for one team.

I will be working with Brandon to do intergration of the system into the CD forums.

Also, I could see some fun coming out of this. Like: 'We have a 4.2 rating! Please vote for us!' How the rating would be computed, I don't know now, but it could be done.

Yes... With subjective data, everyone has their own thinking of what the 'Best is' and what isn't so hot. But... (here's my goal) If we have at least 10 teams per regional that submit data on every other team their, then some of the wacky data would be thrown off. Also, something like... 10% of teams should be a '1', 20% of teams should be a '2', 40% of teams should be a '3', 20% of teams should be a '4', and 10% of teams should be a '5' (This would be a good outline)

Now, my questions to you...

What 5-8 things should be collected (exclude team #/name/location), and what would be a good name for this system? - I want the name to be something that relates to all of FIRST teams, and not just the ones that use the system.

Other ideas?

While doing that, please make a scouting software for the Palm OS. My school will get a couple Palms as long as there is software available for free. Currently, there is none.

Once we have decided on what things we want to collect, I'm sure that there will be people out their making one for palm os.

To developers: In the programs that you make, you can add as many other fields/features that you want. As long as you have the fields that we decide, and are able to output the data in an XML format wtih DTD, it'll work with the online master DB.

personally...(back to Jacks thing about scounting)
i don't have the time our team is busy build 110% of the time now and i really just need to be able to have some for of contact with the teams in the simplest way possible...the "teams" section dosen't really help because some teams aren't there either that or they don't know to update their info....so please i'm checking both but nothings working and i don't have the time to worry...:(

well... I think i've figured out what i'm going to do w/ our site. B/C so many teams each have their own scouting d/b, the real problem is being able to view all the data one one team at once. So... I'm going to be talking with teams that have a db (111, 108,...) and attempt to then have quick links to their data on that team. Also, you will be able to continue a discuession on CD about that team.

However, for this year, the team section is in it's beta mode. This means that it's being made, changed, ... You're not going to get all 800 teams to have data in there. BUT... I hope that for next year, there will.

So... my answer to you is:

Try to contact teams through the team list (on CD), and if that doesn't work, then you can't do it. Please, don't post a calling team x... If that team doesn't have a registered member here, they won't see it burried deep in the scouting fourm.

Team 384 Will be creating a database of the VCU teams and the Annapolis teams. we are still considering if we will upload it to our server then have it accesable via link in XML.

1028 will be creating a database of every team...you can then add your own data to it (similar to SOAP)...

*jeremy