That's why I asked if the vote can be changed to let people casting more than one vote, as the option "combination" tells people absolutely nothing they want to know from the vote caster.

The poll could've been a list of check boxes that let people check multiple options at once, so at least the people aren't limited to one answer without using combination.

What i meant by a "wedge" was if you look at a profile of a 3 ring binder, it forms a wedge, now if u can support where the binder makes a 90 degree angle, u can make the top flappy peice be able to knock down boxes then plant yourself on the bridge using a large rubber foot, then fold the flappy thing back down, and u make a ramp to piggy back another robot

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I'm hoping ours will be a supersimple stacker with king o the hill capabilities. We're making a "frictionometer" to test different methods and materials on the HDPE. And translational drive would be really really fun to build!

lauren

What advantage do people see of going under the bar?

Launcher

Ours also will go through the bar

Now, how can you manage that?

You have an alternate way of getting to the other side of the field if the ramp is blocked....

when i hear that i think of the bad terminator in terminator 2. that would be cool but i think maybe that the intelligent metal he was made out of might be considered exotic hence not allowed.

my team was thinking of a box pusher, with the ability to do small stacks (our stacks would be maybe 3 or 4 high)

yeah but if I throw a few bins in front of you...you can't go past.

ramp

you're here [bins] bar other side.....

we thought about it too...you also can't grab the top of the bar...its in the rules (we have a best on it Wednesday next week).

Well, we basically finialized our idea of what we want to do about an hour ago....and It's definately a combonation of a few things.

Our main objective is to build stacks (max height of 8 at the moment), however we are also building in the ability to steal and carry stacks (also up to a height of 8). Our support will be pnumatically controlled to compensate for going up/down the ramp when we are stealing stacks.

We will also be contending for King of the Hill - a powerful drive train will be in place no matter what else we do (gear-box w/ high and low gears). With that drive train, we also will be able to defend stacks, and/or attack stacks.

Our bot obviously won't be fitting under the side bars.

Here is a formula to tell you the center clearance required to not hit the frame while moving from ramp to platform:
CC= Center clearance required
B= base distance between axles
a= angle of ramp (14.48 deg in our case)
r= radius of your wheels


CC = (B/2)sin(a/2) - r(1/cos(a/2) - 1)

Maybe I shold have posted this in the technical forum?

yeah definately. i understood none of it:ahh:

yeah maybe you should re post it in a techincal discussion. But thanks for the info. We're pursuing our two speed Mark II. Gearbox, a buldozer type pusher/stacker endeffector on the end of an arm connected to a shoulder joint.

Also, if the bot on the other side of the bar is following the line in autonomous mode, going under the bar allows you to quickly knock them off the line, in effect disabling them for at least the first 15 seconds of play, if not completely destroying their strategy.