Chief Delphi - Virtual Kit of Parts

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Pete,

Thanks. I know how to export... I just was not sure that 6.0 was indeed the cure.

Once again, thanks for the info.

I'm also running Inventor 5. Will versions of the VKOP be available in AI5? Has anyone posted a link to converted part files? Is there a list of parts showing which version of AI was used to create them?

Thanks

A lot of the parts are available on Ed Sparks' site http://www.firstcadlibrary.com/ in Inv5 format (thanks, Ed!).

I'd be surprised if Autodesk has any plans to release Inv5 files of the new parts. It is a fair amount of work to create the files, so we should be glad they support us to start with. Don't forget they are in business to make a profit and they have no vested interest in helping us delay upgrading our software!

Not that I want to be an apologist for Autodesk, but I do believe in capitalism.

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Hey, anyone have any information on access to this? The link isn't working for some reason... Thanks!

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Originally Posted by petek

Mike,

I believe (as others have noted) the problem with the new part files from Autodesk is that they are created in Inventor 6. I have verified that they do open in 6, but not in 5.3 or 5.0, giving filenotfound errors in the older versions.

We are getting around this by opening them in 6 and exporting them as IGES solids so we can use them in Inventor 5.x. Of course you can't edit the IGES geometry, but unless you modify one of these kit parts that shouldn't be a problem.

If you haven't done it before, exporting to IGES format is simply a matter of:
- Open the part .ipt file;
- Select File -> Save Copy As;
- Select File Save Type: IGES (.igs, ...);
- Click the Options button to set the IGES File Save As options*; and
- Save the file.

* The default geometry is Surfaces; if you plan to do any section views you may be more successful by saving as Solids.

When you want to open one of these IGES files in Inventor you have to set the File->Open->Files of type: to IGES.

Pete

Um, I am not able to access the folder. When I click the link provided above I getan "invalid autodesk buzzsaw site name"

Do I need to use inventor and get it through there, or should I be able to Internet Exlorer it, and download them?

Please help.

edit: my school has one copy of 7.0 and one of 6.0 . . do we continue to recieve them every year or have we just been lucky? I was under the impression that each team got the full set each year. So why are some people stuck with 5.x?

EDIT

Never mind, I didn't realize that this was a resurrected thread from last year. Still, any ideas for how to get the motors, trannies, otherstuffs for inventor?

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I don't expect to see this year's VKoP until sometime in January, but you can get a lot of last year's parts off Cybersonics' 2003 Inventor download at:
http://www.cybersonics.org/cybersoni...s/FinalZip.zip
This is a rather huge zip (152MB) of the entire robot. If you would rather, you could navigate through the individual subassembly pages of the site and download those parts you're interested in. Start at:
http://www.cybersonics.org/cybersoni...2003/index.htm

I believe these are all Inventor V5.0 files, by the way. We stuck with 5 because we had many seats of it, but only one of V6 (from FIRST). There is no way we could do all of the modeling, assemblies, drawings and animation with just one seat, so we didn't use v6. I haven't heard whether FIRST is shipping v7 or v8 this year - we're hoping v7 because we have a copy of that already.

Pete

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Originally Posted by petek

Thanks for the parts. . . is there a CIM motor in there?

anywho, it is for sure version 7 this year, We already got ours.

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The CIM is in the main (enormous) download, but I'm attaching (is this a new feature?) the files. I'm pretty sure they're v5.0 - I just have v7 and v8 on this computer so I can't verify.

BTW, I can't tell if the attachment "took" - there's no indication I see in preview. If it isn't here, email me and I'll send it to you.

Pete

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Rather than start a new thread, I decided to wake this one from the dead. Does anyone have the kit modelled in to Inventor? I know the motor models are the same, but I need the newer stuff, like the new wheels. Any ideas?

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Mike,

Which parts seem to have a file missing? I'd like to check these out. Thanks.

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I have downloaded the VKOP, and when I load any parts in Inventor 7, It says that the database is a newer version.

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I get the same error with R6..was hoping R7 would fix that, though it only happens on some files. Damaged downloads maybe?

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Originally Posted by Matt Krass

I get the same error with R6..was hoping R7 would fix that, though it only happens on some files. Damaged downloads maybe?

At least in the case of the 12" wheel, it's our favorite Autodesk feature again: it was created in version 8 (the current version), so isn't openable in 7. Most of the files I've tried did open in 7, though. Can't you open any of the files?

Sure would be nice if they'd at least give you the option of a Save As to an earlier format (like they do in AutoCAD)!

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Is anyone else getting the error message when opening the new kit of parts in Inventor?
"Database schema is newer than this version of the software"

I guess I'm only getting it with the 12" wheel, but I would like to use that in the design of the base.

Thanks in advance!

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Originally Posted by TommyT

I can't open the wheel, either!

we are using them in our robot, also, so I'd rather put the good looking wheel in than a featureless gray slab that is more or less the same shape.

Grrrr.

And what really gets under my skin is that they give us inventor 7, and then parts made in inventor 8. No team will be able to afford the upgrade, so why bother.

I mean, they might as well have given us inventor and then made the vkop for a totally different program.

*sigh*

Featureless gray slab it is, I guess.