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SuperJake 09-01-2003 11:02

Anchoring to the Hill
 
Although anchoring isn't out, I wouldn't recomend it. The spotwelded wire mesh that makes up the ramp isn't that strong. In tests with a 130lb robot, the mesh bent a substantial ammount. When we moved the students in to remove the robot from ontop of the ramp, the mesh bent under their weight as well. I anticipate there being some rather nasty ruts on the mesh on the way to the top, making any sort of breaking mechanism unrelyable. We haven't tried it yet, but I'll be that if you anchor to the wire mesh with a 130lb robot on the down slope, then have another 130lb robot pushing down on the first, it could be possible to break the welds. Possible DQ there... and trust me, the Miracle Workerz know about DQs

:ahh: *FIRST AND LAST DQ OF IN THE 2002 COMPETITION!*:ahh:
Go MOEHawk!

There were also a few bots in the 2000 competition that hung on the bar then used a freakishly long arm to steal balls from the goals. Although I don't expect to see any 'super box arms', it would be really cool to see.

Andy144 13-01-2003 21:55

Picking up is easy
 
Picking up the tubs is going to be a very simple task, but here comes the difficulty . . . aligning those boxes to be stacked. It is pretty easy to align the boxes from one or maybe two angles (if you are willing to sacrifice a fair amount of robot space) but being able to align boxes from all angles is next to near impossible, and will be very slow no matter what . . . unless you use the force of course. I spent all last week going over and over how it would be possilbe and the end result was NOT pretty to the least extent. So I hope everyone who tries to pick up boxes good luck and I hope you have more of it than I did!

Wetzel 14-01-2003 07:39

Quote:

Originally posted by yangotang
that'd be absurd to make that super arm.. plus controlling it would be very hard.
Absurdly cool.:D

/me looks at the Technokitties


Wetzel
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Noone told me anything. :cool:

Ken Loyd 14-01-2003 09:02

[quote][i]Originally posted by SuperJake
3) It involves a mysterious force that surrounds us... and binds us...

I would like to remind you that (if this force has a dark side and a light side) DUCT TAPE is not as strong as velcro.

Ken Loyd
Team 64

Ken Loyd 14-01-2003 09:12

Quote:

Originally posted by team222badbrad
The TIGERTRONS CLAW is currently under lock and key sorry for not giving you any helpful ideas.....

You will just have to wait and see our CLAW at either Philly, Pheonix, or Rutgers!!!

Dear BadBrad,

Our FBI (FIRST Bureau of Investigation)source has emailed CAD drawings of the Tigertrons Claw. Our super secret spy class has built lego models of the claw. We plan to supply all teams attending the Arizona Regional with copies of the "Claw" unless 222 promises to bring an ample supply of Twinkies and Mountain Dew to share with members team 64.

Ken Loyd
Team 64

Joe Matt 14-01-2003 09:20

INTERNAL MEMO
TO: Joseph M.
FROM: Mr. T
SUBJECT: BINS
BODY: After some caculations and through testing, we have figured out a way to nock down boxes without them comming in our opponets side. See attachment for more into. Come to meeting for more info. Also, your box of rubber arived. Please pick up soon. Thank you.

Sincerly,
Mr. T


Big hint. Read it.

camtunkpa 14-01-2003 11:11

Twinkies and Mountain Dew
 
Come on!!!!1 You guys gotta do better than that we prolly won't have any of either we're sobe people have fun with your cad drawings

Ken Loyd 14-01-2003 18:45

Re: Twinkies and Mountain Dew
 
Quote:

Originally posted by camtunkpa
Come on!!!!1 You guys gotta do better than that we prolly won't have any of either we're sobe people have fun with your cad drawings
Warning!!!!

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF THE GILA!

GILA VI LIVES!!!

Ken Loyd
Team 64

Moshingkow 14-01-2003 19:17

22 boxes? psh. Moe doesnt have ambition! Even though it would be counter intuitive to stack more then 22, my design has the possibility to stack all 45 (and even more them you give it to it)!!! Stablility is no matter, I have a mechanism that will keep them all stable as can be. I also have a mechanism for righting boxes which have fallen on their sides. If only I could get my teammates to listen...

GregT 14-01-2003 22:55

Re: Picking up is easy
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Andy144
Picking up the tubs is going to be a very simple task, but here comes the difficulty . . . aligning those boxes to be stacked. It is pretty easy to align the boxes from one or maybe two angles (if you are willing to sacrifice a fair amount of robot space) but being able to align boxes from all angles is next to near impossible, and will be very slow no matter what . . . unless you use the force of course. I spent all last week going over and over how it would be possilbe and the end result was NOT pretty to the least extent. So I hope everyone who tries to pick up boxes good luck and I hope you have more of it than I did!
It's really not that hard, keep thinking and you'll get it.

Greg

DanLevin247 14-01-2003 23:03

247 will have another amazing robot this year. We've come in as runner ups in several regionals, but not many people know about us...so watch your backs....or should i say, watch your containers?

camtunkpa 15-01-2003 09:15

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF THE GILA!
 
oh....we do not underestimate anyone....just no twinkies for you! Beware the Claw!

EvilInside 15-01-2003 10:28

Robot
 
Well, I have a few things to say. . . .
1) For the super arm, can anyone say. . . . outriggers?
2) Big wings are bad unless they fly
3) Jack in the Bin 'Bot will rule all

Jeremy L 15-01-2003 11:29

arm info
 
a few things: the super arm would not work because there would be way too much weight out way too far, at least without a counter-arm. and if you have two arms of that size, can anyone say "weight issues"??:rolleyes: our end effector could be similar to our 2001 'bot (see left) but after very rigorous 5-minute test periods, we couldn't pick up one bin from the ground after being knocked over. guess that means we have to alter something...
or maybe not...
or maybe...
or maybe not...
hehehe :D
i designed an end-effector that uses something like 238's toy handout from last year, remember those?:p fun stuff. all i can say is that it uses "gravity." well, g/l to anyone making the uber-arm.


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