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Katie Reynolds 10-01-2003 10:26

Not true.

http://www.creationsandkeepsakes.com...php?ruleid=162
Quote:

M12
Only items listed under the PNEUMATICS section of the Kit list may be used to store, generate or transmit compressed air or vacuum, with the following exceptions:

Suction cups may be fabricated from legal Kit parts, as defined in rule K1 below.
  • Tubing may be compressed in order to block the flow of air.
  • Tubing may not be compressed in order to generate compressed air or vacuum.
  • Only the allowed air cylinders may be used to generate vacuum.

WARNING!
You may only use pneumatic components from the pneumatics kit. Custom-made pneumatic components (fittings, air cylinders, pumps, valves, etc) are not allowed. Additional off-the-shelf pneumatic components are not allowed.
Please double-check your information before posting something like this.

- Katie

MRL180YTL2002 10-01-2003 10:31

maybe...it comes down to traction like last year if you get into a pushing match. But if any of you were around for the 2000 competition....the ramp will be equally nasty if not even worse like last year. Fast robots may end up flying across and over the ramp. It 14 degrees just like the Ski-Jump Ramps on the Royal Navy's Invincible -class aircraft carriers.

Ben Mitchell 10-01-2003 15:21

Quote:

Originally posted by meaubry
In my humble opinion - the match es will be decided in the first 15 seconds and the last 15 seconds. But - what do i know I haven't witnessed a single match yet.
I concur 100%. The first 15 seconds will determine who wins for the round, and the last 15 seconds will determine, by how much.

MRL180YTL2002 10-01-2003 19:01

yeah, the mad dash for the ramp in the end like in 2000 and whoever knocks the most bins over has a better chance of winning. You'll probably have at least a stack height unit of 2.

OneAngryDaisy 10-01-2003 21:22

whoa whoa- a lot of you are forgetting the bars... Gatekeepers would be very ineffective if they didn't block the ramp and both bars-

Bduggan04 10-01-2003 21:27

Quote:

Originally posted by Joel Glidden
There's more to it than friction...
(and I'm not talking about suction cups - they slide too easily)

-Joel

Yeah, I'll pass that along to the people that use them to move heavy glass :rolleyes: .

Joel Glidden 10-01-2003 23:12

Touche...

Matt Attallah 11-01-2003 20:24

Re: Re: Suction Cups = bad
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Katie Reynolds
Yep, I just tested that about an hour ago.

Suction cups + *tiny* scratch on surface = no suction
Suction cups + tiny scratch + vacuum = barely any suction

Do as you will. :)

- Katie

If that isn't farther from the truth. If you use the right stuff, you will be golden. We have been testing, and found something that can hold w/ a very rough piece of stock plastic. Just use the right surrondings, and the right thickness, and you are golden!! :]

Doug 11-01-2003 21:13

Quote:

Originally posted by Bduggan04
Yeah, I'll pass that along to the people that use them to move heavy glass :rolleyes: .
usually those people holding up the heavy glass are not being rammed by 130 pound robots bent on being on the hill

Quentinfool 11-01-2003 21:17

This is where a limbo bot would become handy

MRL180YTL2002 11-01-2003 22:05

Quote:

Originally posted by OneAngryDaisy
whoa whoa- a lot of you are forgetting the bars... Gatekeepers would be very ineffective if they didn't block the ramp and both bars-
not if a few bins are in the way....you have to spend time moving them....

Gary Stearns 15-01-2003 05:31

Drill Motors
 
Every year they give us drill motors but don't let us screw into anything....Rats!!

No two persons ever read the same book. -Edmund Wilson, critic (1895-1972)

Jeremy L 15-01-2003 15:15

King of the hill? good tv show, not such a good idea
 
I don't think that king of the hill is the best idea. only if you have the perfect suction system, or bracing system would you be able to defend your position on top of the plastic. however, i think that the time and weight of the robot devoted to getting that extra 25 points is better spent stacking bins or stopping opponent robots from knocking down your stacks. i think that FIRST threw in the bonus 25 as a distraction from 4 bots all simultaneously running around and playing what i consider the better part of the game, where real "strategy" is needed- knocking down your opponent's stack vs. building your own. if the game is played correctly, the highest stack only needsto be around 7 high, regardless of the number of opponent bots on top of the hill. that is why i feel that the hill strategies are pointless.

Quentinfool 15-01-2003 15:20

how can you complain about the drill motors? o the torque, excellent for transmissions......

MRL180YTL2002 15-01-2003 21:13

hey, the drills are giving us roughly 30% more power than last years!


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