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redbeard0531 12-01-2003 03:56

I highly doubt a team will give up 25 king of the hill points, just to get negative QP!!!!!

A more likely situation is that a team will be a team getting less then 3 boxes in their scoring zone. lemme breake it down.

3 box = 2-1 = 1
2 box = 1-1 = 0
1box = 0-1 = -1
0 box = 0-0 = 0

my sugestion - very easy


the stack* with the most boxes in it is multiplied by the TOTAL number of boxes in the scoring zone. PERIOD, NO MATER WHAT!


*definition of stack

dictionary.com "An orderly pile, especially one arranged in layers."

Legalese / Mattsk=peak
"A group of boxes supported by 1 and only 1 box, or any nonbox item. each box can only directly support 1other box.

any stack not fitting this description is not elegible for the high stack.THATS IT; The boxes in it are just regular boxes!!!



high points (pun intended;)) in this plan


  • NO NEGATIVES!!!
  • VERY SIMPLE!!!
  • tallest stack possable = good!!
  • why shouldnt I get points i my bot is holding a stack?
  • Why should i rais my oponents score if my bot cant steal a stack in time?
  • did i say NO NEGATIVES!?! ;)

ps. this exact same message will be posted in all negative point threads, and in its own poll thread in the rules forum. any updates/replies should be posted in poll thread, so please make sticky. goto the poll thread and lets make it a petitition!!!!

pps. sorry bout the speling, gammer, too many !'s and bouts of RAGE; its 3:45 AM!!


-Matt Stearn
CUL8R

jskene 12-01-2003 09:14

Discrepancy between two scoring rules in competition manual.
 
The cause for confusion is that there are two ways to calculate the base score.

Competition Manual Section 7.6 says containers in the tallest stack are not counted as part of the base. The base is simply all containers not in the tallest stack.

Rule SC8 says total containers in the stack minus the stack height are added to the base score, so some containers in a pyramid stack will count.

See an example at:
http://www.skene.org/robots/Final-Configuration.jpg


FIRST needs to decide which of these scoring methods will be used. If 7.6 is used, then there cannot be negative scores. If SC8 is used, then there can be.


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