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GregT 23-01-2003 18:49

Quote:

Originally posted by ahecht
190's robot should be able to reach the top in 3 seconds this year. Control won't be a problem either. I can't say much more than that.

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PLEASE BE OMNI DRIVE!

I really want to see someone do omni drive this year

Greg

Amy Lynn 28-01-2003 20:24

Since i'm sure most teams have the same methods of arms and quickest turning methods, i'm interested to see how the first 15 seconds in auto mode go, and what method is the most effective

~Amy

Greg Perkins 29-01-2003 09:48

Quote:

Originally posted by D. Gregory
We are shooting for 6-6.5 F/PS. We were originally thinking 8-9 but we realized that if got into a pushing match, the motors would stall, breakers would trip etc.


we are up to about 8ft/s and have no problem with tourque and stalling, partially because the worm gear system we have prevents back driving and it works great. plus we also have a large foot that walks up the bridge thingy...



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ChrisA 29-01-2003 16:09

Anyone want to fill me in on how fast y'all are planning to accelerate? And how do you plan to compensate for going at such high speeds around corners?

Lee 30-01-2003 12:23

Has ANYONE thought about the collison between two alliance robots as they make the arc at the bottom of the ramp travelling at 12-20 ft/sec? Many alliances will never get to the top! Many robots will go home in pieces. Ya got to think of the WHOLE game.

Don Knight 30-01-2003 12:36

Just Blow Them Down
 
Why drive over the ramp - just knock them down from the starting position. Why waste the time.

Yo Ho Blow the Boxes Down.....:confused:

SpaceOsc 30-01-2003 12:45

The bagel wall of doom
 
Beware of the fan jet bot

but its a fine match to our Bagel Wall of doom

Todd Derbyshire 30-01-2003 13:00

The game is over in three seconds for us...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ahecht
190's robot should be able to reach the top in 3 seconds this year. Control won't be a problem either. I can't say much more than that.
We've already ended the game within three seconds! Looks like u have to become quicker! Muahahahahaha:eek:

WakeZero 30-01-2003 14:31

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisA
Anyone want to fill me in on how fast y'all are planning to accelerate? And how do you plan to compensate for going at such high speeds around corners?
You tweak the program just right so you are on two wheels without tipping, 100% of the time :yikes:

Tytus Gerrish 05-03-2003 11:49

FAST!
 
fast is whatever we say it is

pras870 05-03-2003 11:57

Our robot can go about 12ft/sec and can get to the ramp in auton mode in just about under 3 seconds, pretty impressive don't you think? :)

David.Cook 05-03-2003 12:20

Hmmm... I am surprised at all the talk, and no one really willing to give a number.

When we tried out our autonomous programs, we were able to get up to the bins in about 4 seconds. We didn't formally time it. We used several different methods, but the four seconds is running at half speed or less for accurracy until you are lined up on the ramp. Then we accelerate to go up to the stack. Oh, BTW we are only an 8 ft/sec 'bot.

And yes, if you hit the stack low and fast it sends many bins the wrong way. If you hit the second bin high and not too fast, the entire stack tips over the way you want it to.

My question is... Now that you and three other robots are jammed into the space at the top of the ramp with ten seconds left in autonomous, whatcha gonna do now? Frankly, we haven't decided for sure whether we should let ourselves get caught in that tangle.

I think the swing arm aproaches are great, and avoid other problems. My only question for teams doing that is what happens to your crank when your swinging arm encounters a stopping force. It is one thing to test a swing arm against bins, and entirely another to test against bins being pushed the other way. I am curious whether anyone actually tried that.

DPC.

DougHogg 05-03-2003 13:16

Quote:

Originally posted by David.Cook
I think the swing arm aproaches are great, and avoid other problems. My only question for teams doing that is what happens to your crank when your swinging arm encounters a stopping force. It is one thing to test a swing arm against bins, and entirely another to test against bins being pushed the other way. I am curious whether anyone actually tried that.

DPC.

Good question. We went to the Chatsworth Scrimmage with our "swing arm", but our opposition in those matches didn't reach the top in time to oppose our arm. We will have to wait for the Arizona regional to find out what happens when a really fast robot, or another arm like Team 234's, pushes against our arm rotation.

Team 234 will be competing this weekend at VCU, and although their arm is very different than ours, I am sure our team will be interested to see how their arm does in actual competition.

soezgg 05-03-2003 14:29

our bot is 6fps and hits the ramp in 4.034 seconds.

we have yet to see how this works out

Paul Copioli 05-03-2003 15:47

Top in 2.2 secs
 
We have tested and repeated several times now and we get to the top in an average of 2.2 seconds. Our fastest was 2.0 and our slowest was 2.4 (averaging all the trials). When I say the top I mean contact with the bins. We stopped the time as soon as the robot made bin contact. We have an identical practice bot and are tweaking, because my calculations show we should be at 1.9 seconds. I know what you're thinking, but let me just say this: I used differential equations to model the behavior of our robot on this year's playing field and so far everything except the final time is mapping within a few percent.


-Paul

P.S. - we don't want to be king of the hill, just king of the bins.


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