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unixfreak 13-02-2003 23:52

Girls on my team
 
We have a total of 3 STUDENT girls. One is a college student, she works. The other 2 are PR, and dont do much fabrication if any. We have 3 female leaders also, but they do mostly "behind the scenes" work like fundraising and such. Our actual teachers are male.

FRANK(WGH) 17-02-2003 11:28

well most might say that you don't see very many girls around the shop or power equipment but truth is there are many girls that do alot of work on our team for example 2 of our team members that are both girls have done aot of machine work for our team and the wheel hubs look real nice.

Thanks for all the hard work!!
:]

Biggs717 17-02-2003 14:45

Last year as some of you may already know, our team consisted of 14 girls and 8 boys...needless to say there are always girls doing things! this year we have cut that number down to only five due to all the seniors who graduated last year were girls...but the girls do have a big roll too!

Katy 19-02-2003 02:27

I am fairly sure we have always had a girl captain and this is the first year there are more guys one core team than girls (this is our 4th year). We have six elected leadership positions four of which are girls. (This is our first year with this much structure to things to we are still working on how it all works.) I for one am one of the four and learning to weld steel...can do it but not well enough to be of real use yet (I will be learning Al soon hopefully). I do a little electronics a lot of design, did the crate with some help, and then just using the tools to cut the Al or whatever along the line to fit into the latest theoretically brilliant but realistically disastrous project. (I’m kidding, really we aren’t too awful about staying on earth). Most of us (both guys and girls) do a little of everything with the exception of programming and sometimes electronics as far as building goes (those two have their own little groups). We don't have a real machine room (save a little area with two drill presses a chop saw an old band saw a grinder and a few hand drills) but everybody can do most of those (some hamsters too). You could say we are the opposite of most teams, the guys do more of the specialty things such as organizing day to day things, keeping inventory, web page, programming (mostly) and electronics (mostly). Chairman’s is new…so it is just kinda mine for the moment. Regional stuff is another girl (also new…before it just magically happened with parents doing it) and fundraising is split between one guy and one girl (that’s new too, we lived off UW and NASA grants before.) Day to day…who cares really? The guy girl stuff only really comes up for us when it is time to book hotel rooms for regionals.

Our team has been fairly much controlled by girls a great deal (...somehow it wasn't the guy's idea that we spray their hair hot pink and put zip ties in it...) We were the team in hot pink and black last year that ran around with the toy hamsters that sang (Seattle regional). Personally I haven't found the whole "girls don't do that" or the girls must simply be decoration mentality inside FIRST in team kids or mentors. It is more common from outside…although sometimes people assume I don’t know what I am talking about until I prove it but honestly I think that is just because I’m terrible at explaining the little world in my head.

Tytus Gerrish 25-02-2003 12:57

1 to 4
 
We have 4 girls on our team , and one studet (amanda) who's work is only seconded by Jared (fellow Driver) and myself

Pin Man 25-02-2003 20:42

confusing poll

RLopez 28-02-2003 23:18

....
 
lol these guys talking about being surrounded by just guys and a few girls.. well im going to put it in my place... im a girl, and its like being surrounded by nothing but guys and a few girls that are on there that i talk to (like about 2 or 3 others) and i kinda feel tired of being around guys all the time.. but then the guys are hilarioud other than girls that just are quiet all the time... thats my 2 cents worth on this post...

PsiMatt 01-03-2003 00:08

Hmm...let me see. Our webmistress (affectionately known as the dictatress), Assistant Animator, and Secretary, and four of our student engineers are girls. The other 5 members that normally show up are guys, with a few others that occasionally show up.

However, I (a guy, though by the way i've been called by come) am the main person on the team, as Master Programmer, Engineer, Instructor, Mentor, Animator, etc (i am a student). So...on the whole i've found girls to learn more quickly and be more adept than most males. They have more patience and actually listen when I'm trying to teach them.

In any case, I prefer girls to guys. :D

cbudrecki 01-03-2003 06:32

We have three girls on the team this year. One does a lot of videography:), One's in the shop constantly :cool:, and the other floats aound alot. They really don't get treated any differently on the team, they're just "one of the guys."

RLopez 01-03-2003 21:27

yeah, i take the photos and im in charge of communications and i do anything else that i am able to do around here...

melissa 01-03-2003 23:10

There are only 4 girls on the team this year- 3 team members and one college freshman who is a mentor. The only problem is that the 3 team members are all new this year. We have learned a lot this year and maybe 2 of us (one is a senior) can do more actual work on the robot next year.

dlopez 02-03-2003 00:23

our team is more than half girls...about 20 girls are on our team

Erin Rapacki 02-03-2003 02:24

I'm a girl... and what am I doing the week after we ship?

I am helping my guy friends lathe parts for an all-terrain vehical at 11pm on a Friday night

talk about commitment... but hanging out with meat-heads is fun

ByE

erin

IronSlayTallica 02-03-2003 13:19

I'm proud to say I'm the only girl on the team. Well, there's a 7th grader that's just a younger sister of a member and the daughter of a mentor but she does jack. I do more metal work than half the "guys" on the team.:)

Jeff Waegelin 02-03-2003 13:24

Actually three of our best builders (and two of our captains) are girls. We have about 7 total, and three of them are heavily involved with the build team. They do more work than a lot of the guys on our team.

mynameisalex 09-03-2003 17:49

Our high school is an all-girl school, so it's obviously not that tough for us. Our driver (me!), strategist, and human player are all girls, and we did 90% of the work on the robot: I did wiring, some of my friends did the wings, and we also had students doing suction, drive train, and animation. We were using drill presses and stuff- no milling because of liability issues :(

utishpenguin 22-03-2003 19:32

Quote:

Originally posted by mynameisalex
Our high school is an all-girl school, so it's obviously not that tough for us. Our driver (me!), strategist, and human player are all girls, and we did 90% of the work on the robot: I did wiring, some of my friends did the wings, and we also had students doing suction, drive train, and animation. We were using drill presses and stuff- no milling because of liability issues :(
go you!

our eletrical officer, director of operaitons, financial and pr officers are girls! yeah... but we still need more girls.

Alex Salomonsky 22-03-2003 20:07

My team has 3 girls, one who is our historian and came in on just about every Saturady (some guys didn't even come) doing some work, not a lot, but some. One who worked with the spirit team, that was very small, and made some buttons, and one who came in on Saturday's also, and provided the team with a ton of Sobe which was great. The girls on our team didn't know much about building, but it was great that they were willing to give there time and try to learn. At comp., all they did was spirit, except for the one time we had 1 of them be the HP. She almost gave everyone a heart attack when she made it bak at maybe 14.999999 secs. (notice i haven't used names, just cuz i don't no if they want there names mentioned) Having girls is great, cuz im bored of listening guys talking about electronics and magic and other things i don't know. (Sports fanatic) At least these girls like punk music

Quentinfool 23-03-2003 13:39

Our team has plenty of girls. But sometimes girls in general are like a steering wheel in your pants. They drive you nuts.:)

utishpenguin 23-03-2003 16:57

Quote:

Originally posted by Quentinfool
Our team has plenty of girls. But sometimes girls in general are like a steering wheel in your pants. They drive you nuts.:)
hahahahahahahhaha

im a neat freak, i clean up the area and throw away debris.... from i dont know what =P

nicegirl 24-03-2003 22:58

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hey all...

All we have is one girl.... It really stinks b/c it gets tiring being in a room full of other smelly guys!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

exactly...so how do you think that one girl feels in the room full of smelly guys!!!

but hey... i love these guys on my team...and im proud to represent girls of FIRST
so ummm...a lil question for the 696 guys....DONT YOU LOVE ME??? hehe come onnn im smart too ok??
and as for all you guys who think girls are inferior: i broke the half inch drill bit...BE AFRAID BE VERY AFRAID

my bf complains that I have 16 other bfs (David, Chris, Mo, Narbeh, hah Punar!, Harout...)

sanddrag 24-03-2003 23:29

Quote:

Originally posted by nicegirl
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hey all...

All we have is one girl.... It really stinks b/c it gets tiring being in a room full of other smelly guys!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

exactly...so how do you think that one girl feels in the room full of smelly guys!!!

but hey... i love these guys on my team...and im proud to represent girls of FIRST
so ummm...a lil question for the 696 guys....DONT YOU LOVE ME??? hehe come onnn im smart too ok??
and as for all you guys who think girls are inferior: i broke the half inch drill bit...BE AFRAID BE VERY AFRAID

my bf complains that I have 16 other bfs (David, Chris, Mo, Narbeh, hah Punar!, Harout...)

You broke the 1/2" drill bit!?!?:yikes: Awww, I can't blame ya - it was a Harbor Freight special.;) Anywhoo, we are very proud to have you represent the girls of FIRST, and YES WE LOVE YOU. And I'll have it be known you are darn smart. No decorating and marketing here folks; this chick is writing code, doing calculus, designing mechanisms, and cutting metal. She gives us guys a run for our money.:p

Sophey Chan 24-03-2003 23:54

Well,t hat was definatley LONG reading material, but first thing in order, i think Cory is the bomb, it take guts for a guy to stand up to a girl, especially when a lot don't seem to think liek that, no offence. But yes..


As for my team, I am the only girl of 3 memebers. And well, i do everything on our team. I did Driving, Lift, HP, cleaning, awards, mechanic, pneumatics with Oakridge, Engineer, programmer, along with other stuff, but then again, my team isn't to surprised i know how to do everything, being in FFA, i kinda had a lot of expreiences, with fixing tractors and stuff. But girls appear to be a rarety at Central Fl, cause every team was surprised to see me working on our bot in the pit, with grease and WD40 all over me, not really caring what i looked liek ::shrug::

utishpenguin 26-03-2003 01:36

Quote:

Originally posted by Sophey Chan
Well,t hat was definatley LONG reading material, but first thing in order, i think Cory is the bomb, it take guts for a guy to stand up to a girl, especially when a lot don't seem to think liek that, no offence. But yes..


As for my team, I am the only girl of 3 memebers. And well, i do everything on our team. I did Driving, Lift, HP, cleaning, awards, mechanic, pneumatics with Oakridge, Engineer, programmer, along with other stuff, but then again, my team isn't to surprised i know how to do everything, being in FFA, i kinda had a lot of expreiences, with fixing tractors and stuff. But girls appear to be a rarety at Central Fl, cause every team was surprised to see me working on our bot in the pit, with grease and WD40 all over me, not really caring what i looked liek ::shrug::


nicenice
first girls are not proven to be imcompentent and weak and completly disprove most sterotypes

hahah

randomperson 26-03-2003 08:13

Girls on our team... we have three

One doesn't do anything. Other one does lots of cheerleading and making people laugh and stuff...

But the other one has driven our robot the last two years and works on our web site, and also has helped wire the robot and contribute in other areas as well. This year I tried to teach her some programming so she can do that next year.. but not quite sure how much of it she has gotten yet. She is really one of the most productive members of our team besides myself and two other guys..

Oh, and as an added bonus.. shes really hot, and we went to a valentines day dance together.. :D

Sophey Chan 26-03-2003 17:30

Quote:

Originally posted by utishpenguin
nicenice
first girls are not proven to be imcompentent and weak and completly disprove most sterotypes

hahah


Haha, definatley, it surprised most of the judges when they would want to talk to me, and I was all greasy and not want to shake their hands, but they laughed and shook it anyways, I dunno. A lot of epopel talked to me, cause I was doing Mechanical work,t hen again, I did that long before first, I do it with the tractors in FFA, so I am use to it ^^;; So yea, HOPEFULLY next year, some of my other gal friends might join, which would be nice...to have someone of equal level of the team, by girl I mean, they prob won't do grease, but some work...I hope...

batbotcrewfrosh 27-03-2003 18:28

Our team is all girls! We do everything... we're in the machine shop & the High Bay @ Robinson Lab @ OSU for about 23 hours a week, and spend more time @ school during study halls and such working on it. It's a lot of work, but it's tons of fun! I've never been on a co-ed team, so actually I can't really imagine boys being in the machine shop... Kinda weird, but to each her own...:D

ComBBAT_Amy 27-03-2003 18:37

This is my 3rd year on the team and every year I, well lets just say the first year my intent was good, and if it hadnt been for the guys I wouldnt be where I was now being able to explain anything about the robot, to work on it, to just have the knowledge and capabilities I do now. And its just a place where I fit in, no drama or girly gossip..

Melissa H. 01-04-2003 23:25

There are 4 girls on our team...we all do stuff...anything from electrical to paper work...usually, on a weekly basis during build, all of us are there...(just to keep everything under control ;))

Kevin A 01-04-2003 23:44

Our team is mostly guys, but there are still about 10 girls there. Programmed by girl, control panel by girl, electronics board by girl...the list goes on. They seem to get their hands in on all projects, i mean who can turn them down?

Kevin Antaki
Team 481

IM Me: xpalendocious

codeoftherobot 02-04-2003 00:11

I can understand how difficult it would be to be in a situation where you are the only girl surrounded by guys. Just do as much as possible. Even though I may not be a girl, I know what it means to be somewhat isolated. A word to all males with inferiority complexes, grow up. Women can do just as much as men can or more.

utishpenguin 02-04-2003 02:18

mmmhmmm
 
my mom worries abotu me going to robotics... haha

i cant help it beign surrounded by guys *sniffle*

IMDWalrus 08-04-2003 16:49

Quote:

Originally posted by Biggs717
Last year as some of you may already know, our team consisted of 14 girls and 8 boys...needless to say there are always girls doing things! this year we have cut that number down to only five due to all the seniors who graduated last year were girls...but the girls do have a big roll too!
128 is the only team that I've seen this year where the two drivers are both girls. They did a great job at West Michigan, and hopefully they'll do well in Houston.

AshleyD 08-04-2003 17:13

I think many people are too caught up in the "girls" issue. The number of girls on teams is growing. Traditions won't change instantly. The jobs that a lot of girls tend to do isn't always a bad thing either. It's a combination of team members' strengths that makes the team. Just because girls are more interested in "PR" stuff doesn't mean they dont gain an appreciation for science and technology, or don't know about the robot. Our chairmans award committe knows the robot well. And, we have guys that do PR stuff. Everyone interacts with the robot at some time or another but many focus on projects that can be complimented by their personal strenghts.

AlbertW 09-04-2003 13:17

Quote:

Originally posted by IMDWalrus
128 is the only team that I've seen this year where the two drivers are both girls. They did a great job at West Michigan, and hopefully they'll do well in Houston.
both drivers for the fembots were girls... :yikes:

SharkBite 09-04-2003 13:56

If there aren't any girls on your team, or there are and they don't participate in the actual building of the robot, its your fault..... it may not be intentional but its your fault

everytime ive heard a team complain that the girls dont want to be a part of the robot building, ive gone to check it out and in every case so far theres been something a little more too it

Elyse Holguin 09-04-2003 14:37

whoa! i'm on 71's pit crew. i worked on the bot, among LOTS of other things. i'm a floater, and i help out the rookies get into a place for them on the team. girls, stop being scared of a power tool already and pick it up! the only guy who's had a mishap with a power tool on the team was a guy. the only thing that matters is how you apply yourself. but in a lot of instances i see the guys are the ones that try to push the girls away. even i've been told to do weird jobs, like, testing strength... but you take it as it comes, laugh it off, and if someone feels like helping, yay!

Amanda Morrison 09-04-2003 17:56

Quote:

Originally posted by SharkBite
If there aren't any girls on your team, or there are and they don't participate in the actual building of the robot, its your fault..... it may not be intentional but its your fault

everytime ive heard a team complain that the girls dont want to be a part of the robot building, ive gone to check it out and in every case so far theres been something a little more too it

Not always true.

Our high school is one specifically for science, math, and humanities, so it's really incredible that there are so many kids interested in technical aspects. One girl on our team never really got interested in the robot, and I can't say I blame her. I'm an English major, and she plans on being an art major, but that doesn't mean that we are involved with the team any less than any other kid that is working on the actual robot. During my rookie year in FIRST, I hardly ever touched the robot, and I liked it that way. Even though I am a mentor now, I'm still an English major, and I have really no plans to go into any kind of engineering - but that doesn't mean that I can't encourage others to go into it. Even though now you'll find me working on the bot a bit more, I only do simple things, like tightening screws or holding things in place. I'm an english major. I might get a good kick from a lot of people on this forum for saying this, but I don't like engineering. I'm bad at it. I don't know what I'm doing and so I generally ignore the robot in its entirety when it comes to actually building it. But that's one of the great things about FIRST - there are things like the Chairmans' Award, the animation, the team spirit award, etc. to inspire those kids who maybe don't necessarily like engineering but still love FIRST. I was one of those kids, I still am one of those kids, and I hope to produce several more of those kids into the FIRST program through our team.

Our robot was built by dedicated students in a hole-in-the-wall teacher's lounge, and whether or not it was built by men or women is completely to their personal discretion. Hopefully all teams (and all girls) have the privlege of working the same way.

SharkBite 09-04-2003 20:59

i dont think theres anything wrong with girls working on the non robot related project.... its just that if all of the girls are tending towards them, theres probably something to be fixed

most teams a few different kinds of kids on the team.... theres the dedicated core that enslave themselves during the building period..... theres the kids who know whats going on and help, but robotics isnt really thier priority.... and then theres the brand new kids and some other kids who participated previously but still didnt catch on.... the of kids that just kind of stand around and watch because they dont understand everything just yet..... the better the team (i mean in terms of being supportive) the faster these kids pick stuff up...... but if those kids are ignored too long, nobody teaches them how to use a tool or explains anything to them, they will either leave the team, or self motivate and find something else to do

most robotics teams are made up of mostly male mentors and students... when those mentors or veteren students are looking to reach out to one of the new students, they are less likely to pick a girl

all of the other committees within robotics are probably mostly run by females..... by this i mean PR, spirit, fundraising..... they are more likely to reach out to the girls

as long as people are happy its fine...... but sometimes girls on FIRST teams can get stuck in a rut where they want to build, and they want to do something else too, and its just easier to do that something else because thier friends are doing it or something

all im saying is that if you have a lot of girls on your team and none of them are working on the robot, some of them probably want to.... try to encourage them

Redhead Jokes 09-04-2003 23:06

Quote:

Originally posted by SharkBite
i dont think theres anything wrong with girls working on the non robot related project
Quote:

SharkBite
One of our girls is a wonderful painter. *coy grin* Did you see the
top of our crate

utishpenguin 10-04-2003 21:17

wow
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Redhead Jokes
One of our girls is a wonderful painter. *coy grin* Did you see the
top of our crate

its a lovely painting... i wish our crate is as good as that....

Kaelia 14-04-2003 14:25

Quote:

Originally posted by IMDWalrus
128 is the only team that I've seen this year where the two drivers are both girls. They did a great job at West Michigan, and hopefully they'll do well in Houston.
Hey, all of our drivers are girls =P We don't have anything else, like the frosh helpfully pointed out already...Yup, to my knowledge, we were one of three all-girls teams at nationals. If I'm wrong and there were more, please tell me!

Redhead Jokes 14-04-2003 14:38

Re: wow
 
Quote:

Originally posted by utishpenguin
its a lovely painting... i wish our crate is as good as that....
*grin*

not sure you saw

the rest of the crate

Melissa H. 14-04-2003 14:58

*gasps*
Cool crate!:)

hacksaw692 14-04-2003 15:35

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaelia
Yup, to my knowledge, we were one of three all-girls teams at nationals. If I'm wrong and there were more, please tell me!
If someone knows, could you name all of the all girls teams, please?

I know there were three in the Archimedes division: 692 (Fembots), 771 (S.W.A.T.), and 433 (erm... team name I'm not sure of). And now 677 (what division were you in?).

We got to be allied with 433 once. It was cool. An all girl alliance... hehehe. We kicked butt in that match!

So if there were others, speak up!

Marygrace 16-04-2003 23:55

Wuts up. My name is Marygrace, i am from Beach Cities Robotics. I took a class at the local Community College. I took a welding class. I did all of the welding on our robot this year. We have had female presidents for the past three years. We have seven girls total. One of them do all of the painting, she painted murals on all sides of the crate, including the top. My sister who was this years president, helped out with about a third of the robot making. The women are rising and will soon take over. LOL, j/k.:D

Tytus Gerrish 17-04-2003 10:11

HUH?
 
Aperently u havent seen this.....
http://www.7leaflets.i8.com/photo.html

ellenchisa 28-04-2003 20:00

We had 4 girls on the team and usually 2 of us were in the shop at a time...occasionally we got all 4 though.. =)

Alexander McGee 28-04-2003 20:14

Girls on T3
 
I am proud to say that my team has girls on our pit crew, and an equal number of boys and girls, 9 and 9.

Thats primarilly why we have Lady Thunder, cause it makes things more interisting...

Anyways, our girls do everything that the guys do. In fact, our best aluminum welder is a girl.

And, our girls were in charge of our arms this year. You know, the ones that were deemed illegal via update 20, GM 31????

Pretty imprressive girls!

Meredith Rice 28-04-2003 23:47

Being from an all girls team (433 Firebirds, and yes we did kick butt in that match Fembots, 692) it is pretty obvious that out girls do all the work. So yes we must handle the building as well as the pr and artsy side of robotics. And we must accomplish this all with just about 10 members. We are very proud of our team and the relationship we have with our (male) engineers/mentors. We all overcome whatever fears or embarrassments we have around powertools pretty quickly.

I am still suprised at how many people we have apporach us, amazed at what we accomplish each year while being an all girls team. I am more impressed when I see a lone female hard at work in a pit full of guys. Coming from an all girls school makes it easy for us. All the power to you girls doing it on ur own!!

Kel D 29-04-2003 00:22

It is rather surprising that so many people are amazed that we are an all-girls team. I'm not sure if they thought that girls aren't as capable as guys in building and operating a robot, or maybe they just liked our robot. Since we are all girls, we are all involved in the building of the robot, we really don't have a choice. It is quite a sight to see some of us with power tools.
I was a little intimidated my first year because of the predominantly male population, but most people do not treat us differently because we are all girls, so thats good.
Well, if anyone is ever at the same competition as us, feel free to come over and say hi:D.

TomWx 29-04-2003 19:47

mmm, I'd debate that. While I do know girls on several teams who work their tuchus off, it's not exactly the same on our team. Except for two girls, all the girls on our team do next to nothing, except take up space and noise.

Jeff Waegelin 29-04-2003 19:53

We have 8 girls on our team. 3 were heavily involved on the Build Team, and spent at least as much time working as I (or anyone else) did. 2 of them ended up being on the drive team, too. The rest of our girls are on other groups, and do varying amounts of work, but not to the same degree of involvement.

J2Kraatz 29-04-2003 20:20

Jeff not a cool thing to say considering all of our wiring was done by one of our girl members. But true not a lot of the girls volunteered for the cutting of metal.

Lisa Rodriguez 05-05-2003 16:04

girls on teams
 
my team has 5 girls from 3 various schools, rockville, esast hartford, and manchester are where the girls are from, our team also has members from RHAM and coventry, we also have rumors to kids from tolland wanting to come over.
our team is primarily from rockville and east hartford, about 30 of our 40 members from those two schools, and the other schools are sparse because the engineering programs are not as large as those in the other two schools
overall, our team will accept anyone who wants to join, we have previously had members from Loomis-Chaffee and Cheeny Tech who had enough interest to form their own teams at their schools
As for the girls, i am one of the 5 that actually get dirty in the shop, not that the others don't want to, they either aren't in the metal shop when we build [our facility is in EH, metal shop in my school in rockville] or dont like that part of the team
i also got onto the build team and pit crew because i wouldn't let the engineers leave me standing there, i kept asking questions and damanding answers and wanted to know how things worked, so they put me to work, it was definetly worth all the annoying, and now they really like me!!:D
With most of the team leaving next year [seniors this year] i've done my best to get underclassmen like myself involved with building, which most of the seniors did, although i have had little luck, i believe next year should work, however much difficult it will be. But girls tend to like being PR and things that keep their hands clean, i, on the other hand, like getting my hands dirty and help build the machine, so that's what i do
you can't force the girls onto the team
most girls won't even date people on robotics, let alone join the teams, in my opinion, we don't need those girls, those who want to be involved will be

shyirishangel 08-05-2003 18:00

girls there are plenty or more can join!! I am in 11th grade joined in 9th i continue to love this program & ethusim about robots. I learn alot and do whatever i can to help. I do battery's and help out in the pits w/ the guys! This program has made me realize that my dreams in technology may come true! :D I had always liked computers and wanting to work w/ technology in ways. This program has made that possible. I have never been in a more exiting thing i have ever did! DEAN KAMEN is the best guy to make my dream in combing the two things i love to do into a big competition!! GIRLS BELIVE IN YOURSELF & U CAN DO ANYTHING U PUT UR MIND 2! ;)

utishpenguin 09-05-2003 00:03

hmmm
 
you know what... if your scho9ol doesn't have it already set up a all girls technology club. from there encourage them to go to the robotics team.... thats what we did

Jessie-648 18-05-2003 15:47

our team has 3school's and about 20 student and their are 7 girls 2 of them are our captain and co-captain. one of the girls did controls.

GregTheGreat 18-05-2003 15:51

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Originally posted by Jessie-648
our team has 3school's and about 20 student and their are 7 girls 2 of them are our captain and co-captain. one of the girls did controls.
Those numbers are pretty close to our numbers. Most of the girls on our team do the behind the scenes work. They do things like the chairmans report, the awards, and the fund raising stuff. Our team probably wouldn't be able to even "stay a-float" with out their help. They are constantly working in the computer lab on several different projects. I thank all of them for the work they have done this year.

Good Luck to everyone at the invitationals.

Stina236 25-05-2003 17:14

Yeah, well, our team has a bunch of just awesome girls, and though the majority are a part of the PR team.. i think that our team would be completely lost without them!!!
We have one girl who designed the whole autonomous mode by herself.. and i think that that is just jaw dropping fantastic..
.. not to mention that i am a girl myself, and i think that we had a great dynamic to the team.. but then again, perhaps i'm just a bit prejudiced.. haha

Michelle 236 28-05-2003 21:07

wow "lindsay" i totally agree.
the girls on our team definately liven things up
(who else would do the tick dance into the hotel swimming pool fully clothed?)
but um i guess since i also am a girl i too may be a bit prejudice

utishpenguin 14-06-2003 12:19

Quote:

Originally posted by GreenEyes13
Yeah, well, our team has a bunch of just awesome girls, and though the majority are a part of the PR team.. i think that our team would be completely lost without them!!!
We have one girl who designed the whole autonomous mode by herself.. and i think that that is just jaw dropping fantastic..
.. not to mention that i am a girl myself, and i think that we had a great dynamic to the team.. but then again, perhaps i'm just a bit prejudiced.. haha

one step at a time. our team has a similar situation, if there are girls in the pr, they iwll probably tell her friend and who knows will get addicted to mechanical and electrical. this yr my team is focusing on letting the lil'uns do work rather than teh veterans doing almost all of it.

i think we are actually going to go from classroom to classroom giving fIRST talks and recruiting people.

Carolyn Duncan 17-06-2003 14:10

I've ben drug out of the shop by other people because they were tired and had to lock up. My senior year of High School I, and the only other girl on the team, initiated the sleep over in the band room, our practice "arena", on the bridge from the 2001 game so that we could get a couple hours of sleep and get back to the robot in the most time efficient way possible. There were only 2 of us chics on that team and we were always there even when we were sick. Presently I am not on a team but I will be for build this year.

ashley212 24-06-2003 23:32

Well.. this year our team had like 5 girls and most of the time there were at least 3 girls at the class working on the robot (or at least trying to.. its hard to work with the big machines when the guys dont let us!) hehe! Next year the team is gonna be composed of 5 girls and 2 guys (were losing like 15 guys! )0: sooo sad!) .. but regardlessw, hopefully girls will be more active.

*ash*

sanddrag 24-06-2003 23:59

We have DOUBLED our female participation for next year! We had one this year and will be having two female members next year. If I had a part in the new member application and selection process the number would be much higher. But unforntunately, I do not. :(

Patrick Duffy 25-06-2003 02:35

Our team sponsor (school end, our great robotics teacher Mr. Shelton) had us write ways to recruit more female members to the robotics team as part of our final (shame I'm leaving Dillard, I'm gonna miss it) I think that getting girls in the team is easier done if you have a good art department for your team (as in making banners, t-shirt design, ANYTHING like that). We had a few girls this past season, but only a couple that were really involved in a major way. If you count all of them, we had 5 or so I think. Either way, its good for the team.

utishpenguin 25-06-2003 12:41

yep
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ashley212
Well.. this year our team had like 5 girls and most of the time there were at least 3 girls at the class working on the robot (or at least trying to.. its hard to work with the big machines when the guys dont let us!) hehe! Next year the team is gonna be composed of 5 girls and 2 guys (were losing like 15 guys! )0: sooo sad!) .. but regardlessw, hopefully girls will be more active.

*ash*

most girls on teh team are afraid of guys and they cant really get their hands on eth robot.... still dont know how to solve teh problem... give a speech on courtesy on the first meeting?

Madison 25-06-2003 13:47

Quote:

Originally posted by Patrick Duffy
I think that getting girls in the team is easier done if you have a good art department for your team (as in making banners, t-shirt design, ANYTHING like that). . . .We had a few girls this past season, but only a couple that were really involved in a major way. . . Either way, its good for the team.
Okay, I'd really love for you to explain what it is about the nature of being a girl or the nature of arts and crafts that makes them suited for one another? I'm very unclear about the connection, and I'm completely unable to understand the assertion that these activities are more likely to attract girls than other activities -- or girls moreso than boys. I'm sure some other folks would like an explanation as well.

Furthermore, how do you define "heavy involvement" in the inspiration process? Because they didn't make the banners you wanted, are they less involved? Because they stayed on the sidelines, watching rather than participating, are they less inspired? I'm curious to see what criteria you use to detemine's someone's worth to themselves and to your team. Really.

Finally, it's not really even about the team. It's about inspiring individuals, no matter how, why, or when. ...recruiting girls is good for your team? How, exactly? You seem to indicate that they have a bad record of contributing anything you've deemed worthwhile. They seem to be best suited and most likely to draw pictures and make banners and have spirit and do public relations; something which you don't seem to value, really. I mean, why else would you use those aspects of FIRST to recruit people who aren't "really involved?"

Is it to pad your numbers? Is it that so you can wear the number of girls on your team like a proud badge of equality and fairness? Please.

Patrick Duffy 25-06-2003 14:03

Actaully I was speeking more from the numbers i saw in my high school years. My high school is a technology magnet, and we have a pretty big female population in the program, but most of them are enrolled mainly or only in graphic arts programs and tv production, very few take courses such as robotics, programming and electronics. I don't know why, but its just how it goes. Not to say the females don't bring anything to the team, actually its quite the contrary, they bring a lot to the teams. In our team, it just happened that we did not have many girls invovled in building like processes, most of them were involved with graphics and fundraising. These jobs are also important mind you, and if FIRST inspires someone to be an animator, or a CEO, does it make it any less important that if FIRST inspires someone to be an engineer?

Its good for the team, simply because its more fun that way, i mean, who wants to be on a team full of guys only? Society also seems to frown upon anything that doesn't involve females, so its also good from a political standpoint.

Erin Rapacki 25-06-2003 14:06

Being a female: this is my story
 
When I joined FIRST my junior year of high school (2001), I was technologically inept, didn't know much about computers or tools, but I recieved decent grades in math and science so I wanted to know if engineering was for me.

When it came to the robot, I spent most of the '01 and '02 seasons overhearing conversations between the engineers and absorbing information, I did simple machining tasks on the band saw or drill press, and participated a little bit with strategy and concept design.

Needless to say, I learned a lot... but the team would have had the same great robot whether I was on the team or not. It didn't matter... but the point is, I was inspired (as you all can clearly say now).

By helping out with such things such as media, awards, community service, demos, banners... whatever; I felt like a more active member of the team, and that I was giving something back after all. I enjoyed doing such things... I knew I learned a lot about robots, but came to cruch time I let the people who knew what they were doing go attend to the problems... I was needed somewhere else and it felt good to be important somewhere.

My point? Every aspect of a team is useful, and don't confuse inspiration with activity. You can never tell what is going on the mind of somebody, so don't assume. Because of the "non-robot" things I did, I gained useful communication skills (ways to sell people on something, less timid, phone calls, ways to deal with ppl, ect... Skills that many engineers sometimes lack)

I am continually learning more about how to build the robot every build season, it's an ongoing journey. Basically... all that matters is that I've decided to improve myself technologically.

p.s. simultaneous post... oops

Specialagentjim 25-06-2003 18:37

M. Krass:

I'm also a member of patrick's team. We at dillard have a large girl population, as he said, but statistically speaking, they are more apt for graphic design/art/spirt than at building the robot. When we say that someone dosen't contribute to the team, its not in the sense of "They didn't do this the way WE wanted it", its they didnt put any effort at all into just DOING it. Most girls on our team, simply don't feel like putting the effort they see people like myself and others putting in. That's not to say there aren't those that do! We had one team member, who's name was "happy". She was there till 1am with me every night I was there working. She was a great asset to the team, because she put in EFFORT. From a statiscal standpoint, and statiscal only, males on our team tend to put more effort into the team.

...and believe me, we encourage female participation any way we can. Any female interested in the team is greeted with much respect and given every chance. Many times, they're given more oppurtunity than the guys on the team. However, even with all this oppurtunity, only a handful take advantage of it. Its a mindset they often times dont wish to adopt. I'm NOT saying girls are not a good asset, they're just as good as guys. There is no difference in the ability to build a robot. It's just the mindset they acquire, and the Fort Lauderdale Dillard High School mindset of the average female, is not about building a robot....but I've got plans to change all that as the new 108 team leader. ;)

Jeff_Rice 26-06-2003 00:43

I have been watching this thread on and off for a while now, and I have been thinking about this.

If you leave a 7 year old boy in a room full of barbie stuff alone, he will eventually grow bored, make sure no one is watching, and start playing with the barbies.

Different story if there are other people in the room with him. Reactions will vary greatly here, but it is very likely that he will not play with the barbies.

What if we stick the kid in a country where it is socially acceptable for boys to play with barbies? He will play with the barbies whether people are there or not.

Here is my point. Recruiting girls actively is only a temporary solution, but it looks good and everyone says, hey, we're fixing the problem, look at us. We've (almost) all bragged about the number of girls on our teams. And it is very important. But we need to have girls on teams become role models, showing that engineering is okay and even cool for girls as well as guys.

Well, sorry, but I felt the need to say that. Recruiting girls is only a temporary fix. The girls on FIRST teams must become visible. (Lego league is a good place to start, fresher minds). In doing so, we will ultimately fix the problem, rather than prolonging it.

BTW, this is as much about guys doing PR, artsy craftsy stuff and paperwork as it is about girls.

Patrick Duffy 26-06-2003 02:03

Well, you need to start somewhere, and recruiting is where that starts. It will take a while to make an impact, but if you can get a growth per year, I think you're doing something right. Basically what I think my teacher was trying to do, was to recruit more girls on to the robotics team to basically like you said, show that its cool to like engineering and be a girl, and the more girls you have on your team, the easier it is to have a steady flow of girls signing up (speculation, but it makes sense to me). I actually project growth at Dillard for female involvment.

ComBBAT_Amy 26-06-2003 13:25

I was the only girl on the team my freshman year, and we didnt really have a spirit team or anything of that sort so my only choice was design or build and I went straight in to build and wouldnt have it any other way..we have the cheerleaders and what not now, but my place is in the shop.

Specialagentjim 26-06-2003 23:01

Quote:

Originally posted by ComBBAT_Amy
I was the only girl on the team my freshman year, and we didnt really have a spirit team or anything of that sort so my only choice was design or build and I went straight in to build and wouldnt have it any other way..we have the cheerleaders and what not now, but my place is in the shop.
::GASP:: There was a time when 21 had no spirit team!??

utishpenguin 14-07-2003 21:37

haha
 
its sometimes hard to get some engineers to shout

Matt Attallah 15-07-2003 11:01

?!?!

How does this post keep on getting resurrected?! I thought this fell off of the CD.com web space!!

:)

Specialagentjim 15-07-2003 19:01

Well Matt, once in a while, a small group of us (known normally as "forum trolls") tend to on our daily wanderings through cheifdelphi. One of the more popular of these "forum troll" activies involves going back through our old subscribed forums. I do this occasionally to make sure I haven't missed something from an errant e-mail that never made it back to alert me of a new post. Now, you may be wondering "What's wrong with you specialagentjim?". Well, that my friend, is a question which no forum could ever possibly cover.

Matt Attallah 15-07-2003 19:06

Quote:

Originally posted by Specialagentjim
...Now, you may be wondering "What's wrong with you specialagentjim?". Well, that my friend, is a question which no forum could ever possibly cover.
You're in FIRST - 'nuff said! :D :)

Patrick Duffy 18-07-2003 01:03

It's FAR worse than you think Matt......Far worse...

Angela06 31-07-2003 23:42

We have plenty of girls.... now most of them are on the PR crew but we have a girl 3 girls in charge of the programming and website and drive (including myself)..... there were hardly any girls on last years team but this year the girls out number the boys by quite a bit..... in a few years i bet the girls will begin to out number the guys at competition....

Beth Sweet 01-08-2003 00:04

hey matt, it's back again!!!

Alaina 21-08-2003 15:06

We've never had a girl working in a metal shop...That's probably because we don't have one....But yeah...

I joined my team last year, and I was the first girl to ever join. This year we're hoping to get a bigger team in general, so I guess getting more girls on the team comes along with that. It'll be fun.

SaxMan701 22-08-2003 00:45

Other than PR and such? Well, there's Weedie. That's about it. Alisha designed our new shipping crate...does that count? Yeah, that's it.

PsiMatt 06-02-2004 02:29

Re: girls ?
 
Well, after a long drought of girls...we finally have many on team 1135. Our webmaster is a girl, as are some of the Animators and manipulator designers....and they're all moving up.

c-squared_2006 06-02-2004 05:18

Re: girls ?
 
I'm like one of the three girls on the team. The boys don't understand us really well, but let's just keep it that way. :)


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