Re: Sigh
 

How did you come up with 25 points? two bins can be either zero, or one point. One stack of two=0 two bins on floor =2-1=1

you would need a stack of 6 and 6 bins to have a small lead against the other team. Mean while, the other alliances 2nd bot is running around getting points too.

I don't think very many teams will be able to effectively block the ramp at all.

Cory

Well, how do you want to do this?

A single steep ramp? Then, I hook my wheels over the top edge and get stuck in place.

If it's two ramps, like a roof, I balance myself on top.

My idea of a ramp-dom would have to prevent passgae from one side to another, a wall in other words, a wedge may help them stay on, it would be pointless to do a one sided wedge because then a bot could come up from behind, on the flat side, and push you off. It may be hard to balance on a 2 sided because your back wheel may still be on the mesh. I'm sure people will some up with interesting tricks. Or build a wall and rely on a huge COF to keep them on the ramp.

The 2 points come from adding the 2 bins to the 8 that are there and having a 5 stack with 5 on the floor. However you have to transport them over bar and stack them. While the ramp-doms ally plays a defensive game. It could be a 2 on 1 but if an opposing bot can't lowride or trys to dislodge the ramp-dom then its a 1on1. A bot may be able to protect a stack but it would be hard to defend a stack and 5 boxes on the ground.

The boxes from the ramp-dom's side also have to be cleared to drop there score to just 25, this consumes time.

A fast-to-the-wall ramp-dom will be hard to beat plane and simple.

if 2 king of the hills get allienced together then what r they gonna do. sit up there and do the hokey-pokey at their station. theykey to this years comp will be having a fast relativly powerful robot that can stack, mayb only 2 or 3 high, but can still stack. its gonna be an interesting year.

john scans

Y'know, if you keep saying that, we're all going to have flags on our robots so that we can see it above whatever wall you plan on deploying.

Besides, most of our robot's functions can entirely automated. It's like point and click :)

Re: Re: Sigh
 

There are 8 human bins starting on your side. 8+2=10 and 5*5=25. And with a stack of 5 and 6 bins your could have a small lead over your opponent. 8+3=11 5*6=30. And yes, teams will block the ramp effectively, but it leaves them at a strategical disadvantage.

The dispointing truth
 

as anyone here been to any of the scrimages around the country..... i went to the So cal Chatsworth Sectional Last sunday.... stackers... the most disapoint display i have witness in my years in robotics... after team have worked so hard to get it going to have weird devices and stacker... wut happen?

nothing... the best kinda robot on the field is the kinda that moved... if you can go up and down the ramp and even dominate it quickly .. then you got it made.... the sectionals everywhere have soon everyone that stacker just cant function well out on the field there just no time and no place ... the key to victory is the ramp domators .....

I was expecting some action on the field with stacker.... but nothing even tho some teams did not have them operation some others did.. theree just no chance tho.. i like i siad earlier in this theard.... Fast under the bar bots will be favorite... and ram dominators will rule the game.....

seems to be the end of story...

i might sound one sides here and its true that a stacker would win... there just no time and no place on the field for a forkilift to have great advantage over anything:confused:

who says you have to have a forklift...? It does seem that everyone is saying that it will be impossible to stack. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens at the regionals.

yep, we have the same problem, 152lbs with 3 days to go. My advice, metal to plastic, lots of holes, and destroy things you dont need. (ya and take out that battery, its 13lbs you dont need lol)

Yea that was us. We latched on in the first 10 seconds, instead of waitng until the end. Also, it is the little things that lead to a championship. And we were and are indeed sponsored by Bristol Meyers Squibb.
25 belives in simplicity for their complexity.

wing folding
 

Heey

That's MY Idea:D

Anyways, it was rejected in week one because it would be "too hard to build"

I would be made out of plastic and go either 8 or 12 feet long. That means a 6+ high stack

In addition, it would be able to go under the bar

Anyways, 461 did great anyways at Buckeye.

We had the FIRST STACK!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH 461!!!!!!!!


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"Who Stacks?"

"WE STACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!" :cool:

First team to knock over the stacks wins!!! After seeing several scrimmages and a regional, i havent seen ONE stacker that does anyting useful. And ramp doms arent gonna win every match. There is no hole in the game this year, no "3 goals" that guarantee a win. Even if one team can take the ramp every time, thats only 25 points for their alliance. But if someone can beat them to the stacks, that is a lot of bins. And if this team can go under the bar, what is the ramp dom preventing. Unless the ramp doms partner can fend off two bots by itself the ramp dom has to move from the top. This makes the game open for everyone. With the other alliance having a majority of bins and superior movement ability to the ramp dom, they guarantee a win if both get on the hdpe and can fend off the ramp dom in the later portion of the match.

I haven't seen any pure rampdoms in play as of yet. Maybe I missed them.

There are few teams that get to the wall in autonomous mode, let alone get there fast. I don't think anyone can argue that getting to the wall first isn't the most important thing in this years game.

However alot of teams try to shove boxes over the ramp and a ramp-dom would stop that. If a rampdom can get there and plant he'll win barring a miracle.

With the apparent failure of stackers the rampdom strategy definately got a boost. But who knows this weekend could be totally different.