The Matrix: Reloaded
 

I wasn't watching the Super-bowl, and I just saw the trailer for The Matrix: Reloaded.

:yikes:

I LOVE THAT MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

/Me: Starts pacing around the room, waving my hands in small circles (You need to see it to understand :D) and mumbling my breath, "I have to see that movie, I have to see that movie, ..."

I really do get like that whenever I see or read something cool.

Yes! I've been telling everyone that it is coming out on May 15! I can't wait. It's one of my favorite movies! And in november they are breaking out the matrix 3: revolutions! They had an entire article devoted to the matrix in Newsweek magazine. You should check it out, it is from the 6th or the 14th, I'm not sure. The movies are going to be really sweet. I can't wait!

it comes out the day after my birthday. i *so* want a morning AP test on may 15th, cause then i get the afternoon off... :D

Heh. I can't wait. I spent an entire period drawing a scene from the matrix on my graphing calculator...then someone erased it! Grr. It was mad cool. I was going to take a picture of it.

I hope that everyone realizes that they have had the films done for quite some time...just waiting for the right moment to release them...

nothing will ever top the matrix.....

so sad that neil needed wires to do that bend and fall thing. people in band can do it without wires touch their heads to the ground and come all the way back up. really cool...

Who's Neil? Neo (Keanu Reeves)?

Read it.

I can't wait.

I just realized SW: AOTC came out May 16.

I'm definitely going to see it in theaters. I didn't see the original until many months after its release. Great filmage. It will gross crazy money millions.

Here is the superbowl ad, for those who haven't been watching it over and over and over again:

http://www.aol.com/superbowlads/ads18.html

http://progressive.stream.aol.com/wb...iler640_dl.mov

Not bad, not bad at all.

Matrix is awesome... its all about the shadowrun
:) :) :cool: :)

I already read it. It tells you all about the movie. It even gives you a sneak peak at what is going to happen. I was in my school Library when I seen it, and right away i took it off the shelf and started to read it. At the theater by my house they are going to show it at 12 am on the 15th, so I am going to try and be one of the first to see it. It is going to be the best movie this year( well one of them if you count the Matrix 3: Revolutions)

[size=3]THEY BETTER OVER-THROW LOTR & HP.

STAR WARS WAS DECIMATED BECAUSE OF THOSE TWO.

what is LOTC and HP?

LOTC: Lord of the crown (???) just takin a shot at it

HP: Harry Potter (I'm sure on this one).

I had LOTR, but it came up as LOTC.

BTW, LOTR = Lord Of The Rings.

is someone making fun of lord of the rings? better not.

Any mockery of LotR will be met a quick decisive slash near the head or a unseen (but heard) *swish--fft* (my best approximation of an arrow). rarrr!

btw, i think the Neo vs Agent Smith^100 is going to be slightly cheesy but still good. Highway scene should rock.

For those of you who are yet unpriveledged... http://www.msnbc.com/news/850165.asp?cp1=1
read it all. :D

And they have the twins in the movie that are kind of like the "security guards" and they can turn invisable and everything. The highway scene is going to rock fure sure. And the whole Neo vs. Agent Smith is going to be cool because agent smith learned how to duplicate himself over and over again like a virus and Neo is stuck in the room with all of them. It is definetly going to be one sweet movie.

Can't wait. Wish it was coming out sooner!!! :)

- Katie

Who has seen the first Animatrix?

I can't wait for the Matrix sequels. I couldn't wait after I saw the first one. Everything in the movie just sounds so cool.
I'm also interested in the new game that is suppposed to go with Reloaded, Enter The Matrix, I really hope that is a good game.

yeah neo.....soryy i type really fast and sometimes forget to check what i type..........


everyone........................the matrix is the best and cannot be topped but people complain about the things they did with the slow mo and camera angles and you have to realize that it is a compliment to the matrix for using it so much. plus.....if the matrix didn't do it someone else would have eventually and then the matrix would have been thought of a copying.........not trying to get people angry just trying to reveal the truth of the matter.

aaaaah!:D :eek: :yikes: :ahh:
i so can't wait!!!!
its a few days before my b-day, so i'll probally see it sometime
around then - ah!
if i don't i'll throw some regression fit

I dream about it man!
it's some bad ( in a good way ) drug they're keeping from me

*too exicted*:D

Just to reinterate what everyone else has said so I can join in the Matrix craze: AHHHH!!! MAY!

I know me and Zangretron will see it day numero uno.

UPDATE!!!!
 

:D Less Then TWO WEEKS till the 15TH!!!!!!!!!!

LAST Trailer!!!!!!!!

I can't wait!!!!!

Yeah I've been dling the trailers and the Animatrix films each day they've been released... I got my tickets a little less than a week ago. Can't wait. Luckily, 16th-18th is a music department trip so I can watch it a couple times on the 15th. I just got the soundtrack to Reloaded. Furious Angels is good but Rob D did a better job with Clubbed to Death in the first Matrix.

Student tickets?! Psah, I wish I could save 3 bucks a ticket around these parts.

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AHH, GIVE ME THOSE TICKETS!!! I CAN"T TAKE IT. MUST SEE THE MATRIX:RELOADEDNOW
Thank You.

If you haven't dl' the final trailer you really should. Just wow~
and thank God for the close range weapons. (Morpheus w/ his katana and the twins with switchblades) good stuff :cool:

Regal theatres rock. :D

Hopefully, I'll be able to catch the 10 pm show on the Ultra-Screen at the local Hollywood theatre. ... Hopefully!!

- Katie

anyone other than me absolutely hate all of the matrix comercials......like the powerade and some of the other ones??? i think that they just should stop doing those. they are cheesy and i get angry when i see them.

hehe I just ordered mine
May 15th, 7:30, at the best theatre in town... LETS HEAR IT FOR STADIUM SEATING, the only way to watch...:) :D :cool:

You mean like the Dr. Pepper commercial in the middle of X2 or Spiderman?
Ehhhhh.
Welcome to the future of moviegoing.
They'll get you in the previews (prime bathroom break or snack errand time) or they'll get you during the film (Like the Mazda RX8 in X2. OK they have a Lockheed jet and the best they could come up with is a Mazda? How 'bout a Lambrigahni?).
Resistance. is. futile.

*breathe*... 2nd showing opening day, Matrix: Reloaded, party of 10. *breathe*... 8...... can't stand the wait. And then I have to do it again in a couple months, and then a month after that.

Guess what I'll be doing either evening of May 14th or morning of the 15th...... watching the first Matrix again. *breathe*..

Well, I'm more excited about the tickets I'm getting soon for the premiere of Reloaded on June 1st in IMAX theaters... that'll be nice.

10PM, May 14th.

In San Francisco (~40 miles away).

School the next day will probably be taking the backseat, on Thursday.

Time magazine movie critic Richard Corliss wrote a recnt article about the movie and gave away most of the movie !!!:mad:
He has since earned the wrath of many Matrix fans and producer Joel Silver. That was not very graciously professional of him!
I bet the flick will still earn 120 million opening weeknd even if they gave away the spoilers on live TV.

That article gave away things but it's fine... if I don't see anything too special then I don't care. It's all about the visuals.

Same here! But, uh ... in Appleton - not San Francisco! :)

- Katie

So is anyone going to buy the Animatrix video?

Yes.

I would pay for it even if it only contained the Animatrix segment by Peter Chung. I've been wanting to see something from the creator of Aeon Flux for such a long time, and almost had to change my pants when I heard he was going to be producing one of the Animatrix pieces.

By the way, as seen on /., there's the first review of The Matrix: Reloaded online. Apparently the author was expecting more than action / sci-fi from this movie. Oh well, I'm still very excited about seeing it. :)

Definetly the amount of great directors in there are just amazing, and I've seen at least one thing each one of them did... amazing... 6 Days to go

Of course I'm buying it... I'll go check now to see if I can preorder it at Amazon or something.

There is a theator in Petersburg that is showing Reloaded, and the tickets only cost $5 for 12+.

:yikes:

To add another name to the list of peeps who got their tickets preordered... just got my tickets for the 10 o'clock may 14th showing yesterday. School? Psah, I've done worse. I'll let ya all know how it turns out ;-)

I saw four of them on the Animatrix site. The Second Renaissance 1 & 2, Program and Detective Story. The Second Renaissance is the best of those. I really want to see Final Flight of the Orasis. The 4:30 trailer is awesome!. I really want to buy this DVD!

About 16 of us from S.P.A.M. are going to go c it when it comes out. We're going to wear our team shirts and hopefully take up an entire row:p it's gonna be great

IT SHOWS AT 10:00 pm TODAY, YAY!!!

I thought it showed on Thursday?

Nope, showing at 10pm on Wednesday has been added to 'select theaters' including the one here... lucky me, I watched it Tuesday dvd-style :)

HAHAHA Being in this wonderful timezone and seeing the 10pm showing tonite...in...FOUR HOURS!! I do believe I will be the first to see it on big screen...HAHAHAHAHAH Cant wait...half our robotics team is meeting at the theatre...we're such nerds...hehe

Yeah... but I will vouch for one of the few to see it already... watch out for the highway chase :) W00T

Anyway, read the below 'Infographic' from TheOnion.com :)

The bay area people and I are going to San Francisco tonight for the 10pm show!!! I am so excited!!!!!!!!

As am I, Ken. As am I...

It'll definitely be fun.

See you in an hour or two, buddy...

:D:D:D

Cant wait, i will be seeing it tonight at 10 PM. YAY, man only a few more hours, well more than that, but yea, cant wait

I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE MIKIE! I'M GOING TO FOLLOW YOU AND MUG YOU FOR THE TICKETS!!! :ahh:

48 minutes...
...and I'm sooooo lucky:D

Every single area ticket was sold on the internet within 3 seconds of becoming available for the first two days of showings (must have been 4 or 5 secs to completly sell out:) )

47 minutes...

Ohhhh,

33 minutes...

AAAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

I can't stand waiting for all you people to tell me how it was....

-enable--riphairout = TRUE

aight, here we go, i just got back from the movie, and well it was totally awsome, i mean the fight scenes, the story, the special effects, everything was just awsome, and well if u didnt stay till the end of the credits, then you missed out on something big, A PREVIEW TO THE LAST MATRIX MOVIE, man im soo hyper right now, i just cant sleep. Im sooo happy and in awe, man that was a great movie, everyone should go and see it. GO NOW. later days

Woo! go no sleep tonight! Oh well, it was worth it....anywho, here are my thoughts:

Special Effects: Really cool. I'm sure you've all read the reviews of them having that character-doubling effect that's supposed to "blow bullet-time away." It was impressive - the fight scene was nice and smooth, and they were right: you can't tell the difference between the real one and the CGI ones. However, I can't really say it was as innovative as bullet-time. When you first see bullet-time, it's something that just completely blows you away... the new effects were cool, but not as innovative as the origional.

Fight Scenes: Kung Fu. And lots of it. Oh, and did I mention lots of kung fu? Imagine a gansta movie like Boondock Saints meets Crouching Tiger. Wasn't any of that cheezy fighting either. My only complain is that some scenes they were just completely pulled up by strings. Of course, the strings were erased, but the result was sometimes the action seemed COMPLETELY unrealistic. In the first one, Morpheus said something to the effect that you can't break the rules, you can only bend them. Sometimes they completely broke gravity rather than bending it, and that took away from some parts.

Religion: The movie was jam-packed with religous symbolism. Not specific to any real-world religion, though. You know how Star Trek created Klingon to have real grammer, syntax, and vocabulary, and you know how now some people speak fluent Klingon? Well, it's something like that. It was a much more primeval religion. Because of constant martial arts, the religion was also similair to buddhism and meditation-type beliefs. Overall, it gave the movie that mystical spiritual feel and added depth to the movie.

Story: eh, I dunno about this one. I came into this movie skeptical; with a few exceptions, sequels are usually cheesy knock-off's of existing successful money-making brands. This was true to some extent, but don't worry - there was plenty to keep you wondering. Overall, this movie had a more philosophical feel to it than the first one (i.e. the religion part). However, looking back, I get the feeling that the story was rather dry. One thing happened, so they had to go do this, and the way it turned out led them to do this. No, it wasn't predictable, but, well, I don't know how to explain it completely. What made the first Matrix so amazing was the character development - Neo, a computer hacker sees that the world over his eyes was a lie and it leads him to see a new world with the eventual rebirth theme at the end. In this one, he's just The One, and he takes full advantage of that. Yeah, he's exposed to some secrets, but there's no real development - no real change; at the end of the movie, he's the same character with the same feelings that he was at the begining. Yes, there is that one WTF at the very end, but it's just that - a momentary thing completely out of nowhere then the credits roll (for those who saw it, you know what it is). If they would have done some more development on this, perhaps some foreshadowing, it would have created some character development. It's also VERY similair to what happened in the first one, so it's almost as if they're reusing ideas.

The development of knowledge of the Matrix was pretty interesting. They definately put new things about the Matrix in there. However, that was probably the only redeeming thing about the story. Otherwise, it's everything that you could have guessed from the first one. I dunno - I'm sounding like the story was really bad. It was interesting and good, but I just get the feeling that it was a relatively simple story made to look better than it really was by throwing in special effects and philosophical mumbo-jumbo. That's my opinion, though. Even so, I'm going to see it again sometime, and I recommend all of you do too.

[edit]The Frenchie.... oh man... best ever!!! ;-)[/edit]

There were a lot of parts that were kind of crazy.

Good action. But not between people, there was way too much of that. Jeez.

Did anyone stay after the credits? There was a special surprise. :)

I did, I did, and i realy cant wait, i want to see the next movie now. i wear that im gunna go crazy.

I enjoyed it quite a lot.

I'm very glad I saw it.

I havent seen it, I havent seen the first one, and I have no intention of seeing it, but from what Ive been reading it has gotten mixed reviews. One guy said it was the best movie he ever saw while another group said that "At certain points in the movie, reading a dictionary would have been more interesting.."

:p

DJ:
I can't believe you like the Colorado Avalanche, think the Dallas Stars are a "neutral" team, and haven't seen the first Matrix. You're *way* too sheltered and uncultured ;). There are some movies that people have to see at least once in their lives, and The Matrix is one of them (imho).


For the record, I thought The Matrix: Reloaded was a good movie :D

It was okay.

I wouldn't have trouble thinking of many, many movies that were much better in just about every category this movie tried to excel in.

Boo to all of you!! I was supposed to go and see it at 10:30 tonight but my parents, gotta love 'em...told me I could go 30 mins. before the show, so my ticket had been sold to someone else!! Now I'm gonna have to wiat foreva to see it!!:mad: I hope it is worth the wait!

The next one comes out in November, and man I'm gonna go nuts waiting for that. Hopefully I'll have seen Reloaded before then...:rolleyes:

I just saw it, for a second time, today.

I quite enjoyed it again.

If you haven't seen it, you should.

Mind blowing. I kno that some ppl say that the plot and story wasn't up to par but i thought it was exellent. The fight scenes were exellent, (noticed that the use the same graphic engine as LOTR) and I thought that the was much better than the first.

I saw it thursday at 4:30 PM. Amazing. The only beef reviewers had with it was that it didn't recap the story of Matrix one. Which I saw more than ten times, so it didn't bother me.

I thought it had some pretty deep stuff about free will in there . . . .

And the action, was, of course, exponential growth from the first matrix. Flat out amazing. I was almost jumping out of my seat and cheering.

And each time a new group of ASmiths entered "The agent smith fight" Me and my friends doubled over laughing, somehow managing to maintain sight of the screen . . . . it was awesome. I will see it again. At least.

im confused
 

ok, i saw Matrix Reloaded on friday night and i dont bout n-e one else but im a little confused....
the movie itself wasnt bad,
it had a little comedy, great action sences and an interesting story line

ok now here is when i get confused....
who were those two white guys, where did they come from
wut was the whole deal w/ the importance of the keymaker
did neo choose to save Zion or trinity
whose was the survivor of Zion
and finally why did the sentinals destroy the Nebakeneza

so basiclly the last 1/4 of the movie left me very confused,
owell i hav to rent it when it comes out on vid. and try and solve my confusion

I was disappointed. From the "ReLoaded" in the title, I thought there was going to be a lot more gunplay, but there was hardly any at all.

Re: im confused
 

WARNING: SPOILERS IN THIS POST!!! You read this, and the movie will be ruined for you. Click Here to automatically go past this post and to the next post.

The Twins were programs of the Frenchie to protect the Keymaker. In the scene where Neo, Trinity, and Morpheus meet the Frenchie at his Table of French-Stuff, you see them sitting to the side with the rest of the Frenchie's gang. If the Keymaker was so important, I don't understand why they didn't just kill him like Agent Smith did and the other agents tried to do on the highway chase scene ("Remember, our main target is the Exile.") The only explanation I can think of is the Frenchie a member of a different faction of the Machines - with seperate interests from the Agents, seperate interests from the Oracle, and seperate interests from the Resistance. What those interests are, well, I'm not sure.

They explained the importance of the Keymaker... the door to the Architect was inside that central matrix server-room floor, but that floor has no elevator to it, no stairs to it, yadda yadda yadda. Remember that whole discussion about that building? The only way that Neo could get to the door that leads to the Architect without setting off all of the bombs on that floor was if the Keymaker made a key that got Neo into that floor.

"did neo choose to save Zion or trinity?" Self explanitory. Did Trinity die? And your next question answers the thing about Zion.

The sole survivor of Zion was the guy that was about to assassinate Neo (in the real world) right before Neo's little buddy called to him. This was also the guy who Agent Smith took over right before he phoned out of the matrix, making us think that Agent Smith made a copy of himself into that one guy and so now he's loose in the real world, further making us think that one guy is the sabateur that caused the EMP to activate early and lead to the fall of Zion. Since he's alive, but our heros don't know he's actually Agent Smith in disguise, that gives us an interesting (but alas, familiar - "I know this steak isn't real - the Matrix is telling my brain that it's juicy and delicious... but you know what? I don't care" anyone?) plot twist.

As for why did the sentinals destroy the ship, why did the machines destroy Zion? To elimate the Resistance.

Posting this so I can link past my spoiler-infested post for those who didn't see the movie (see above).

ok i just thought bout 1 more thing i dont know,
did Niobi and her crew die?
was that thier ship that got blown up by the sentinels?

No, Niobe was the other ship. There were three ships outside Zion, broadcasting into the Matrix, Niobe, Morpheus, and that other one... The other one got bombed by the sentinal and exploded, before turning off the Emergency power.

Someone clearly and concisely explain why they have a matrix inside a matrix. When it gets reset, Zion gets reset to 23 people... and whatever, but if it's a matrix inside a matrix, the machines... they don't really need the inner matrix, if they're already inside and are just programs. Putting a matrix inside a matrix is just a "foolproof" way of convincing the humans that they are in the "real", right? Or did people get me way off track...

Anyway, fight scenes, cool, twins, very cool, they cheat. The piling of smiths was cool. Good thing they kept the music. The end scene was cheesy, esp. w/ the music.

Overall fun stuff :D

Waaaay too philosophical, two of my friends did not stop discussing Baudrillard before and after the movie.

[edit: Waaaay too.. that's not what i meant... I meant it's reeally really philosopical, but it's good]

The Matrix Reloaded... great movie... probably the greatest movie of this year and will only be surpased by Reloaded. Anyways, go see it now if you haven't.

Yeah that whole "zion has been destroyed 6 times already" thing got me confused too... I still don't fully understand it, maybe it has to do with each version of the Matrix.

And how the heck did Neo stop those Sentinals?!?!?! Did he bring his powers outside of the Matrix or somethng?... and that one guy, the real world Agent Smith guy... he's bad news.

Anyways, can't wait for November :)

er, you say that as if you don't believe Dec 17th's LotR:RotK will be better... come on, everyone knows that Gandalf can kick Neo's $@#$@#$@# any day of the week.

Re: Re: im confused
 

They didn't kill the Keymaker then because "everything happens because [it was meant to be that way]." ;) Wouldn't have been much of a story without Neo getting to the Architect, eh? Oh well, I'm off to see the movie for a third time :D.

I forgot about that, but I still think Matrix is better than the movies... sorry LOTR fans, I'm one, but I do think the Matrix is better.

What if LotR takes place inside The Matrix? What if Gandalf is really another Agent Smith? What if Frodo took the red pill?


WHAT IF!?!??!

Then there'd be some serious copyright infringement, or something :)

All I can say is The One or not The One, Neo's screwed if Agent Smith gets ahold of the Ring.

Neo can't handle the Frodo's big feet.... And he'd obviously lose an eating contest. But the power of the ring... Neo with the ring...

Agent Gandalf... doing Kung Fu... hardly seems correct. Hehe...

Try adding a 4th movie... X-men, man that's just messed..

and then there is me who really doesn't like lotr that much and the matrix was cool but wasn't the best thing in the world......i don't know.....it is just an ok movie.....



my opinion........can't help what i do and don't like.

The dialouge isn't as braindead as Lucas' amaturish scripts he's been putting out for the Star Wars films but all that obnoxious Psycho babble, double talk and psuedo mysticym must have added 45 minutes to film. Just get to the point! All it did was annoy and bore me.
The action sequences were spectaular as expected (the highway scene is an all-time classic!) I'm going to go see it again to get a better hold of it. B-.

ok just one more thing i was wondering,

DID ZION FALL OR NOT?

Watch the third movie and find out.

I'm not sure whether Zion actually fell or not, I can't remember.. I think it was just attacked. Remember when they said something happened which triggered the EMP blast early?? yeah.. that's the imposter Agent Smith guy that's behind all that I'm 99.23% sure of it... or wait were they talking about them attacking the ships??

So, I don't think Zion fell... Neo's still got 24 hours before the Sentinals reach Zion..

I went and saw it again tonight. The dialouge was a little easier to swallow but I still am not buying everything they're selling. One thing this movie certainly did, it made me appreciate Minority Report a whole lot more. It got into "the nature of things" discussions without applying the brakes to the movie. Here's to hoping Revolutions makes it all worthwhile.
November 5, 2003.
Be there.
Grade upgraded to a B.

er, yeah, it did b/c that last ship only found one survivor when they say that it was a slaughter

or was that the defense they were talking about?
i thought it was Zion
b/c they also said that the sent. s kept digging after they killed everyone

[NOTE: Some may consider the information in this post a spoiler. However, I really shouldn't have to add this bit of information, because **SPOILERS** dominates the title of this thread.]

Just saw the Matrix Reloaded. And while I am not going to read the 7 pages of discussion that is this thread, I will say what I think of the movie.

It appears as though the majority of this movie was nothing but a "filler." Filler not in the sense that it is worthless, but background information; information necessary to create a setting for the real movie (chapter one of Hamlet). With that little said, it appears as though the real movie will be The Matrix: Revolutions.

We learn about the prior 5 Zions that has existed. We also learn that the Matrix is version 5. Tying these two pieces of information together and the fact that The Architect says Zion will once again be destroyed, we can conclude that in order for the Matrix to be.. reloaded.. the 1% probability of disaster that is factored out (Zion) has to be destroyed. What does that mean? A little of nothing.

However, I do have a slight problem, as some others do, believing everything the architect had to say. Whenever Neo too quickly believes what he is told, the belief is usually incorrect: the supposed death of Trinity, the fact that he isn't "the one;" etc.. all of which Neo has believed, but has turned out to be partial truth. Therefore, I can only assume the architect is, to some degree, playing with Neo's mind; catalyzing some sort of reaction.

Also, the choice the architect gives Neo parallels the choice he is given in the original Matrix by Morpheus. In addition, a similar path is chosen by Neo. In the original, Neo is told by the Oracle that he is not The One. Neo believes, but later discovers that he is.. that the oracle just said what he wanted to hear. In Reloaded Neo is told by the Oracle that there is nothing he can do to stop Trinity's death. And while she didn't die, we all know that humans do eventually die. Is this what The Architect is referring to, or is he simply saying what Neo expects to hear, thus catalyzing some sort of reaction?

The Architect states that the purpose of The One is to now return to the source to.. refresh the code? huh? I am slightly confused by this directive. However, it does make sense: Neo, all of a sudden, weilds a power over the sentinels, seemingly real machines, not part of a.. fiction. Is he really outside the Matrix, or was the door to his left a gateway to some sort of.. test?

I do have another question. Who is the "mother" of the matrix? Have we met her? The Architect, due to his response to Neo's question, asserts that it is not the Oracle. Therefore, who could it be? A new character, or one we have already come to know.

I have many more questions, but I am beginning to realize how large (relatively, of course) this post is becoming; therefore I will bring it to a close.

Neo's choices litters him with self doubt. And while he seems to be constantly shown that his doubt is.. incorrect, he continues to doubt.. interesting.

I have heard of mixed reviews of The Matrix: Reloaded. I am willing to concede that the story was a bit lacking; however, until I see Revolutions, I will cling to the belief that this movie was nothing more than a setup, a presentation of important information. After all, Reloaded and Revolutions are basically, together, a whole script seperated into two parts: A beginning and an.. end. I could be wrong, I could be right; I am just reflecting what I think.

Sorry for repeating myself in some cases, but in order for me to really have a question to which I can accept an answer to, I must have more than one way of arriving at it.

Oh, btw: The Matrix has you.. [lol]

I'm not an official screenwriter, but I can give you a better response than most because I have a pretty good grasp on the story...

From what I understand, the architect said that the matrix has a flaw. 99.9% of the population accepts the matrix as it is, a realistic representation of the world. However, due to a genetic anomaly, 0.1% of the population will realize how superficial the matrix is. What they do is allow this 0.1% to be extracted and put into Zion. Then, periodically, they destroy Zion so that it doesn't exceed their control. He said this has happened 6 times already.

They let the people of Zion do this because it gives them the illusion of choice. In reality, their fate has already been determined.

I do not believe there is a "matrix inside a matrix" because as said by the architect, the anomaly prevents them from doing so. Although how Neo stoped 4 Sentinels with just his hand is a mystery. Probabaly a new anomaly the machines haven't discovered. Kinda like a wireless connection to the central matrix.

My guessing is that once you are 'The One' with the Matrix world you become one with the real world. Since Morph and everyone have never seen the other 'One's' before they wouldn't know this.

But you have to wonder, what if this is a dream? Remeber all those Alice in Wonderland refrences? :yikes:

Just an interesting quick check of numbers...

According to U.S. Bureau of the Census, the population of the world is currently some 6.294 billion people. If .1% of those don't accept the Matrix as a reality, then that means about 6.294 million people are going to get ejected from it, hopefully migrating to Zion. Very generously assuming that about half the people ejected from the Matrix are fortunate enough to be rescued and rehabilitated by the Resistance or otherwise survive the dangers of being in a barren wasteland with extreme atrophy caused by never using any of their muscles before and still somehow manage to find their way to Zion, that places the population of Zion at just over 3 million people. Comparatively, the population of New York City is around 8 million people. That makes Zion a relatively small city... kinda depressing for the last of the human race.

Of course if the Machines know all this, why the Machine don't just take the easy way out and put some shredders on the other end of the ejection chutes so that if a person WAS ejected from the Matrix, he wouldn't even have a chance to be rescued by the Resistance and instead would be just fed back into the system, I don't know....

They already said in the movie that Zion is 250,000 people.

There you go with that logic thing again. Hollywood never touches the stuff!

I sure missed that one.

Even so, it's still interesting to know that if you are one of the 6.294 million people to get ejected, and if only 250,000 make it to Zion, your chances of survival are just under 4%.

Moral of the story: if you see Agent Smith coming at you to take you out of the Matrix, try and convince him that you actually do really really like it in there.