Yeah, we've had to do that with some sponsors because they gave us logos too big (scanner) or none at all.

Media always gets things wrong...they confuse things and sometimes its just to try to sell papers, get viewers, etc... and they demolish the truth. Fortunately the investigators aren't jumping to conclusions.

I will wear the patch on my shirt, but it is up to everyone else if they want to post it on their shirts or robot.

space shuttle tragedy
 

Wasn't one of the astronauts of Indian desent?

You people need to remember that not all of them were americans so we need to incorporate the other astronauts country/flag whatever with it......just the patch on its own is fine. but no american flag.....we need to show sympathy and tears for all not just the americans

I personally don't see any reason to complain about placing the American flag on any memorial images. It was an American shuttle, with American support, from an American agency. Just because an Israeli happened to be on it doesn't make it an Israeli mission.

Secondly, I must say I don't see how this was a highly significant event. Is a car accident significant? As far as I can tell, the only difference between the Columbia's explosion and some minivan totalling on the freeway barrier is the cost, and the fact that the participants were certainly aware of the risks. Statistically speaking, almost nobody watched the launch of STS-107. For the vast majority of the nation (and the world, with the possible exception of Israel) it was not significant until something went wrong. The crew of STS-107 did nothing of more importance than any other science crew in the Shuttle program, except for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Personally, if I were to post a memorial to a shuttle flight, it would be the one that repaired the Hubble. They at least accomplished a significant and noticeable goal. It was also much more of a technical challenge than any non-construction mission.

I agree with you 100%. Although I think that the Half and Half image looks cool.

First of all, it's not a memorial to the technical things that they did or did not accomplish. It's a memorial to the people who died Saturday. Show a little respect.

Secondly, you're looking at the whole American flag thing backwards. Just because it was an American shuttle with American support launched by an American agency doesn't mean that there wasn't an Israeli on board. Everything isn't dollars and cents. But that's beside the point. NASA was created for, is paid for by, and is largely composed of Americans, but what we do is meant to help the whole world.

LAK, that was a little bit unsensitive ( don't know if spell right ) from your part, but I totally RESPECT not support but RESPECT your opinion.... I think the patch / or sticke idea is great, but it shouldn't b a must... G-FoRcE

PS: I'll do a hott simple image with some images i gathered up, so far I haven't seen one that i like in here so it will b up to me :D ... I got 4 years of graphics experience already ( not to brag ) so i think it will come out hott.... i'll post it in a while.....

This is directed to everyone who is argueing over whether or not to include the american flag, the nasa logo, etc etc. IMHO, it is not what we use in the image on our robots that is important, but the fact that we have somthing that commemorates the lives of the astronauts. If your team feels it is important to show the american flag in the background, do it. Similarly, if you think that the best way to show respect is just to post the mission patch, do that. I guess all that im trying to say is that everyone's energy in this thread should be headed in a more positive direction.

Best Tribute
 

This is the best tribute picture i've seen so far.



It's rather large (1280 x 2100), but well worth it.

If you dont want to let it load here, go
here

Thank you ofr posting it. It's wonderful.

Thanks for the nice image posted. I'll get my graphics teacher to print it out on some nice poster board and put it up in our robotics lab if I can.

And to whoever posted that...piece of...yeah...taht post about the difference between this and a minivan crash. These were 7 people willing to give their lives for the betterment of mankind. They worked for 16 days, 24 hours a day in shifts, to complete physical experiments. They worked and gave the ultimate sacrifice. Why? So you can live a longer, healthier, safer life. They studied the effects of space on a person. So when you, a person of earth, pollute it to the point of inhabitation, we'll know the effects of space on a person when we have to move there. This was not just the loss of 7 great people either. It was a blow to the entire scientific community.

I'm going to stop myself there before I get a messege asking to stop flaming the other users on delphi...

More or less, I liked somebody else's post...Even if you actually believe this was as significant as a minivan crash, at least show some respect.

You could not have said that any better!

I know I seem (and probably am) fairly insensitive, I have a point to make. Can someone please explain Why a death is more important than a life? A failed mission more than a success?


Why do we mourn a tragedy more than we celebrate a job well done?

There has been more to NASA than just spectacular failure. Should we not celebrate the crews of spectacular successes just as much as the people who ended up on the wrong side of probability?

I'm not saying the people weren't brave, or that their deaths weren't a shame. However, every other astronaut has been just as willing to accept the same, sometimes greater, risks for the same goals. Remember, their mission work was already done.

The rather morbid side of human nature should not prevent anyone from respecting and honoring the people who died.
While you may beleive that you are just stating your views, by refusing to recognize those people, you are disrespecting them, their families, and everyone who has done anything to support their mission, including everyone at NASA and everyone who pays taxes to support them.
Those people gave the ultimate sacrifice for the improvement of everyone. If you have negative thoughts, keep them to yourself.