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O AntiGravity O 07-02-2003 20:14

40 amps a must?
 
Sorry its our team's first time posting, but we've been keeping up on all thats been going on here. Anyway, we're dangerously overweight and looking to shed any pounds in any way possible. So do we have to use the board with the 40 amp fuses for the drill motors, or could we just stick with the 30 amps which have been running fine for us?

rust710 07-02-2003 20:18

You are allowed to use the 30 amp fuse for drill motors but I wouldn't recomend it. The drill motors work there best at 60 amps and tend to blow breakers. I don't think you will be saving that much wait by removing the 40 amp panel anyway.

MarcusF 07-02-2003 20:32

40A a MUST
 
Page 10 of the robot rules says 40A used with drill motor and CIM, so if you want to use ethier you must use the 40A block.

rust710 07-02-2003 20:37

Opps, I missed that. But it sounds weird to me that FIRST will get mad over a breaker too small.

jskene 08-02-2003 16:45

If, as your question suggests, you are looking to save weight by using a 30A breaker rather than a 40A, it would be safer to just drill an extra 1/4" hole in something. That would amount to the same weight loss. :)

Don't assume that a 30 amp breaker weighs 3/4 of a 40 amp one.

Cory 08-02-2003 16:53

These drill motors are more powerful, meaning they draw more current, so a 40 amp breakers are for your benefit. You will not experience as many problems tripping breakers, etc.

Cory

oneeightytwo 08-02-2003 17:02

I agree
 
Our robot has been moving around on the 30 amps and we have popped a breaker or two and we switched to 40 and had no problems!

galewind 08-02-2003 23:01

we're moving on the cims and we keep popping the 40s at low speeds :mad:

TNT280Staff 09-02-2003 10:07

400 1/4" drilled holes in aluminium = 1 lb of dieting

John Bono 09-02-2003 13:35

Well see, there's your problem--you're only drilling 400 holes. I kid, I kid--and that's how thick of aluminum? We also have some steel, too.

TNT280Staff 09-02-2003 15:28

Not sure on the thickness... it was actually something Woody Flowers said 3 or 4 years ago at Kick off in New Hampshire

Justin Stiltner 09-02-2003 16:28

1/8" AL 1/2" holes = 300 holes per pound

and yes you may use any breaker you want on the drill motors, however i think you still must use the larger breaker panel, If you are that close on weight you may want to look at some other area in which to reduce weight.

kevin.li.rit 10-02-2003 18:24

Go with TNT2 and drill speed hole!

John Bono 12-02-2003 17:28

Speed holes, eh?

kevin.li.rit 13-02-2003 19:04

Yah, speed holes, you can always use swords to make them:ahh:

Anarkissed 13-02-2003 21:45

or see if theres extra metal that you could completely cut off, or spare parts which could be smaller

Jferrante 13-02-2003 22:08

you could also try drilling holes in the battery... that'll lose ya some weight alot faster. While your at it the compressor could use to shave a few pounds. :D Anyone got the pics that were posted last year of this?

Actually sprockets are a good source of weight loss depending on size. Replace some extruded aluminum (if your using it) with angle or box to save weight as well, then speed drill for even more weight loss (although its not much). Other than that make a list of what you need most and what you can afford to lose.


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