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WakeZero 10-02-2003 01:30

:D <laughs> :D

I knew someone was going to be crazy enough to actually succeed in this design. A big congrats for pulling it off, you will be a force to reckon with :yikes:

soezgg 10-02-2003 04:06

hmm
 
people have to remember that there are many aspects to this game. dominating the ramp is but one of them.

until the first regional takes place, the happenings in the matches themselves are still verymuch up in the air.

anything is possible.

also: most robots look intimidating- until you push them across the field and reverse their motors.

Greg Perkins 10-02-2003 09:51

a few questions that i have for you...

1. what are you using for your drive motors?
2. what kind of gearing are they?
3. your light is definatly illegal the way its mounted.
3. and do you foresee any weaknesses?

...WOW...
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Johca_Gaorl 10-02-2003 12:15

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M8
Robots must use the rotating light provided in the kit to display their alliance color (red or blue). The light must be mounted upright on the robot so that the color is always visible from a distance of at least 100 feet. The light should be mounted to allow easy changeover of the colored lens before matches. See Section 3.2.2 for Rotating Light wiring information, also see Rule C26.

There have been numerous design questions relative to the installation/placement of the rotating light. The purpose of M8 is to insure that your drivers, the referees, the scorekeeper, and the judges can identify your robot and that the audience has some idea of who’s who; and to make sure that it is installed to enable EASY CHANGEOVER OF THE LIGHT LENSE.

A momentary “loss” of visibility of this beacon is allowable; however, 99% of the time FIRST requires that the top 4” of the light be visible.

Since you can't see your light from all sides, I think you should do something, cut out some of the green material (or use clear lexan) or just mount it higher in the middle. Seems to me like it's fine to have it start sideways (ours did last year), you should have no worries in that aspect, just make it so you can see it from all sides.

BTW, if you want, I can host some videos for you, e-mail them, and I can get them up sometime tonight probably. I'm sure we all want to see this thing go up and over the side. johcagaorl@cox.net

Greg Perkins 10-02-2003 12:58

yea bots have been allowed to have thier lights mounted in a vertical position.
but there has been a rule change and the light is illegal the way its mounted now.


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Steven Carmain 10-02-2003 13:22

What motors do you use to get the robot over the wall? With the output torque needed and the speed you say you can do it, I think your lying.

soezgg 10-02-2003 13:35

agreed
 
they can definitely not do it with motors in 2.2 seconds.

the gearing would have to be insane to get 100 plus pounds over a 3 foot something wall 5 feet away from the axis of revolusion for 270 something degrees

the only forseeable way to do it is through pneumatics.

ill believe it when i see it on video.

Andy Grady 10-02-2003 13:39

Wow!
 
Well, needless to say, I am very impressed. I am dying to see this robot in action. You may already have won my scratch-award for coolest robot of 2003! I just go back and remember my favorite pole vaulting robot in 2001, that team 25 made. This one, if its as impressive as you speak, might just put that one to shame! Good Luck!

-Andy Grady

Adam Y. 10-02-2003 14:34

Quote:

Then out of those 13% they have 4 motors with a nice transmition and traction and come screaming at us. Then they still need to elevate after coming from under the bar at us cuz were about 1-2 feet off the ground at that point.
Still the thing is on a mono pod. It is very precarious in that configuration. One little hit from a robot while it is on that monopod and kaboom you will tip over.

Joe3 10-02-2003 15:54

Thats what I was thinking...what if an under the bar robot shoots under the bar and hits you when you'r lifting yourself up. Your center of gravity is pretty high there, and just a small bump looks like it could topple you over.

EIROBOTICS86 10-02-2003 16:58

Thats cool but does it meet the dimension requirements
Code:

Yo

Aaron Lussier 10-02-2003 17:20

Quote:

Originally posted by badjokeguy
a few questions that i have for you...

1. what are you using for your drive motors?
2. what kind of gearing are they?
3. your light is definatly illegal the way its mounted.
3. and do you foresee any weaknesses?

...WOW...
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I realize that I'm not on 179 but perhaps I can help

1. Looking closely when It is in its Starting position, Near the top you can see The Gear Boxes That FIRST gave to all teams, so most likely Drill Motors
2. See #1, and what ever the gear ratio is for the Gears that FIRST gave all teams
3. Prove it
4. Possibly Twisting on the bridge if they get hit from both sides

But again I'm not on there team so I could be completely wrong, Dont take anything thing I say to be true or untrue.

WakeZero 10-02-2003 19:11

Re: hmm
 
Quote:

Originally posted by soezgg
people have to remember that there are many aspects to this game. dominating the ramp is but one of them.

There are many strategies yes, but if a 'king of the hill' robot are successful at doing what they are suppose to do... all they need is an alliance partner who can drive (not necessarily go under the bar) to have a 90% chance of winning.

Of course, things rarely go the way you intend them to :yikes:

Cory 10-02-2003 19:28

Re: agreed
 
Quote:

Originally posted by soezgg
they can definitely not do it with motors in 2.2 seconds.

the gearing would have to be insane to get 100 plus pounds over a 3 foot something wall 5 feet away from the axis of revolusion for 270 something degrees

the only forseeable way to do it is through pneumatics.

ill believe it when i see it on video.

They never said they did it in 2 seconds. They flip over the wall in two seconds. They dont hit the boxes in two seconds. who cares if it takes two seconds, or a few more, I'd imagine itd be faster than any other method. Im worried that something goes wrong and you crash down on the polycarb sides (Or are they Lexan) If that happens, I don't ever see the officials letting you run the bot like that again.

Cory

abeD 10-02-2003 19:46

well, in all reality lots of good teams are gonna be goin bout 10ft per second, and i do think that they will be under 4 maybe even under 3 seconds to the top (our team can do it under 3 but i aint sayin how hehehe)


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