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Spiffyness 09-02-2003 11:08

Website Criticism (Part II)
 
I have recently created a brand new template for team 810. It loads twice as fast as our old site, and is a bit for organized. Tell me what you think:

http://shsrobotics.vze.com

Thanks a bunch!

-Spiffy

evulish 09-02-2003 11:10

Wow. Looks great. Fast, sleek, and simple. That's what I like to see. I like the layout alot! I don't see anything wrong with it :) Nice work.

AJ Quick 09-02-2003 11:33

I like it.. but not necessarily as much as the other one.

jonathan lall 09-02-2003 12:04

That's not very nice. The site looks great, but I can't view the source. Or right-click for that matter.

Jack 09-02-2003 12:49

Quote:

Originally posted by jonathan lall
That's not very nice. The site looks great, but I can't view the source. Or right-click for that matter.
Well... I can view some source
PHP Code:

<!-- This page is Encrypted with WebPage Protect Pro (v:1) --> 

Personally, I think that's a little over the top. I'll have to agree, I like to right-click to open some new windows sometimes, and I get a little angry when ppl have some JS that doesn't allow that.

I'd also have to say that the biggest sites don't have protection, not to mention that what you have isn't that hard to break. But... If you think that your design is that valueble (sp?) then go ahead and do what you like.

Other than all that, nice simple, but good styled design. Loads quick on my 56k which is a '+'.

Yan Wang 09-02-2003 12:53

People dislike websites with 'encoding'. Yours is sooo simple that my webbrowser and (my stuff) shows it anyway... I mean, it's also a pain for other teams to copy your text in case they wish to post something up or whatever. Unless you're worried about someone stealing your html format, it's useless and a noob mistake at making a good website. The layout, however, is very nice.

evulish 09-02-2003 13:34

Wow...didn't notice that encoding stuff. That's pretty lame.

apk 09-02-2003 13:36

limiting your viewing audience

what about the viewers who do not have javascript enabled?
they get a blank page.

Stephen Kowski 09-02-2003 13:57

nice and clean.....your javascript stuff doesn't do anything in opera just case you wanted to know. second that isn't really too much encryption since all the original code is just mashed together with random characters.

Raven_Writer 09-02-2003 14:06

the page is not actually encrypted. In fact, it would be way to easy to fix it, since it just adds 0a or whatever to every '<', '>', and others. I wouldn't really worry about protecting a good site, I'd worry about getting the content for a good site.

activemx 09-02-2003 16:20

exactly

nice and simple site. Though protecting your scource is pointless.
People usually have no intesnsion to steal code from sites. Even if they do you site is beyond simple and doesnt not have any complex code. There is no javascript apart from ut js encoding script, which can easily be breached. I have a of experiance with Js and there are some pretty good methods of pretecting your JS through httpaccess though its still pretty pointless. Its also a pain for the end user if they cant view the scource easily.

Raven_Writer 09-02-2003 16:24

I feel it's more of a privilage having someone take your code. That person feels that it's good enough to use. Even if they're just doing it because they're lazy, they are still using it.

AJ Quick 09-02-2003 21:30

My biggest qualm, is that it is designed for 640 X 480.

Most everyone that is now using the internet is viewing atleast 800X600, or 1024x768.

I have a good 400 pixels of empty space when viewing it.

HFWang 10-02-2003 19:24

Perhaps make the table layout more fluid... What you did could actually have been done in just CSS and thus would probably end up making more sense syntactically as well as being able to resize easily to everyone's resolution. Add that to the fact that editing your CSS can quite often give you a whole new site....

Aaron Knight 10-02-2003 19:36

My 2 cents (891)
 
I'd say it's a great site design, just needs a little bit of tweaking:
For one, the site in general loads very quickly, but then loading a 4 meg flash file is not. I'm not on dialup, but even so it was taking way longer than the average viewer will have the patience for.
However, overall, the site is very well designed.
And in response to those talking about ditching 640x480 - that STILL is the standard for the vast majority of web browsers (the people, not the browser...). It's best to play it safe, and 640x480 res is perfectly fine. Looked fine on my screen, and I'm at 1152x870...

Again, great design...

Aaron Knight
Webmaster, Team 891
(Our temp. MIRROR: <first891.topcities.com>)
acknight@tirebiter.net

HFWang 11-02-2003 00:40

But why limit people with better resolutions when you can just loosen up the tables a bit and let it resize to meet people's needs?

activemx 11-02-2003 02:11

setting percent values for the otter most tables is one of the biggest mistakes a designer can do. Make tables resize by setting percent values is not practical. Though if you want to use css or javascript to resize then its a different story. I would say make your websites based on 800 or 1024 resolution.

HFWang 12-02-2003 19:32

I fail to see how it is the biggest mistake, or even a mistake. But hey, your call.

But I didn't even mean making it percent values. You could simply not set the width of the content cell... (which sometimes causes problems. If it does, set it to say 100%) and then create margins either through CSS, or if you want to be masochistic, through yet more tables...

Redhead Jokes 12-02-2003 20:17

Feedback please on our New web

Brandon Martus 12-02-2003 21:08

Quote:

Originally posted by Redhead Jokes
Feedback please on our New web
We're team 47, not 44. [useful links page]
Other than that, I like it. :)

Redhead Jokes 12-02-2003 23:32

Quote:

Originally posted by Brandon Martus
We're team 47, not 44. [useful links page]
Other than that, I like it. :)

D'oh! Thanks for checking it out and letting me know.


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