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Pumbaa 11-02-2003 21:30

Travelling team
 
Well, I've been on the robotics team for 2 years, plus a little of the 2001 season... and we've had a different coach each year who all think they know exactly what's going on, even though they have never experienced a FIRST season... I just want to get your input from you teams out there on whether or not you have a travelling team. As it stands now, our coach says that if our entire team can't go, then no one can go (Financially, that's infeasible, I believe), we're just wondering why can't the 10 people who have put the most time and effort into the robot be allowed to be on the travelling team for nationals? Our team has 24 members. From what I've seen from teams in the pits in Florida that there are more team members that show up at regionals than nationals just to be cost effective, Input please.

Eric Bareiss 11-02-2003 22:11

The Gila Monsters (64) usually had about 40 members, we would send 17+3 drivers to one regional then 17 different people +the same drivers to the other regional, then we would try to send everyone to nationals but usually a few people got left out, obviously the people that didn't work hard enough.

I think sending part of the team is the way to go. As far as I know, no one sends their whole team everywhere. Some teams only send three students and a teacher.

illumanat'i 11-02-2003 22:17

my team is poor, period... we can get everyone to our one regional, but nats? no way.... the people who work go to nationals, and thats the way i've seen most people do it... its just crazy to expect to be able to get 24 people to huston, house them, and get them back without the people (or their parents) paying a small fortune....

its too bad, really. some cool people just don't have the time to build everyday, and they can't get to nats, but whats fair is fair

Harrison 11-02-2003 23:16

I think thats silly to not let anyone go because not everyone can.

The reality is for EVERY team is that not everyone goes everywhere. So, by your coaches logic, you guys would never go anywhere (cause not everyone could go). Thats silly.

Basically what our team does is: Whoever wants to go (assuming they are a real contributor to the team), can go. BUT, our team does not fund all the trips (its not in the budget). Say 15 people want to go to Houston, and the team has $5000 in the bank. Divide the $5000 by the 15 people, each person gets $333 payed for by the team...The rest each person has to find the money themselves - if they can't, they can't go.

Money aside, there are lots of other things to prevent someone from going on a trip: Illness, family (goodness knows parents can get in the way...lol), etc..

Summary: Tell your coach that (s)he's nuts.

Redhead Jokes 12-02-2003 00:08

We're managing to get everyone to Phoenix, but if we go to nationals there will only be the people who can pay for themselves unless we suddenly get big money between now and then.

If we couldn't get the whole team to Phoenix then in worst scenario again, only 10 may be paid to go, or those who could pay.

sanddrag 12-02-2003 01:25

Quote:

Originally posted by Redhead Jokes
We're managing to get everyone to Phoenix, but if we go to nationals there will only be the people who can pay for themselves unless we suddenly get big money between now and then.

If we couldn't get the whole team to Phoenix then in worst scenario again, only 10 may be paid to go, or those who could pay.

I thought your team had loads of money. Are you saving it for future years?

Redhead Jokes 12-02-2003 01:52

Quote:

Originally posted by sanddrag
I thought your team had loads of money. Are you saving it for future years?
Nope, no loads of money. TRW used to give us $20,000. Bought by Northrop who said everything would stay the same. However Northrop is still tabling the issue of sponsoring us, I heard YMCA isn't getting the funding they used to get from TRW, and our now Northrop engineers are not happy with Northrop not doing what they'd promised. We've been scrambling for money.

George1902 12-02-2003 02:16

a little birdy told me that Team 180 SPAM is bringing 50+ students to both the UCF regional and to the Championship in Houston.

we're taking the whole team to UCF (it's right accross the street from us!)

Katie Reynolds 12-02-2003 09:38

Our team takes EVERYONE to the Midwest Regional, but only 20 members get to go to Nationals. Team members pay $75 for the regional, and $250 for Nationals.

- Katie

sanddrag 12-02-2003 19:12

Quote:

Originally posted by Katie Reynolds
Our team takes EVERYONE to the Midwest Regional, but only 20 members get to go to Nationals. Team members pay $75 for the regional, and $250 for Nationals.

- Katie

Dang that's cheap. :eek: I think we will be paying for a regional by bus the same you pay for Nats. Big sponsor I assume.

Amanda Aldridge 12-02-2003 21:07

Team Hammond takes everyone to both regionals and nationals, but each team member is required to pay $525. If they can't pay that and arrangements cannot be made, then they can still be a part of the team, but they cannot travel.

We have a lot of fundraising problems, but between our booster club, spaghetti dinner, Avon Sales, and home interior candles, as well as some money from Pepsi and the mayor of our city, we usually manage to come out alright. Our big problem, however is saving for the future years. We haven't managed that one yet.

RamsRobotics 12-02-2003 21:46

Our team is pretty well off, I figure we won't be going to nats so we don't need to worry about the money for that, and aside from that we have had a few sponsors really step up as of late and everyone that wants to go can go to regionals

yelly 13-02-2003 00:27

I've just realized the benefits of having a tiny team (last year we had 7, this year I'm guessing it's approximately 15): everyone can go to both Regionals and Nationals without paying. Wee, I feel better about my tiny team now.

Melissa Nute 13-02-2003 06:18

For our regional, the drivers/human players all go, and the other members of the team can come down Saturday just to watch since our regional is only 2.5 hours away.
Nationals, in the past, since it was close to us, we could take all the team members that attended all their shifts and the ones that didn't, had to pay if they really wanted to attend. However, I'm not sure how it is gonna be picked if we are able to go to Nationals this year.

Rob Colatutto 13-02-2003 06:35

we've always picked about 12 or 13 people who do the most work and the team pays for most thier trip to nationals, so out of pocket cost is usually about $220 for nats, this year might be a little lower with going to houston. its our first time going to another regional that we have to stay over night yet. and were still not sure what were doing with that. for our home regional, the whole team can cme friday and sautrday, but only about 6 of us go on thursday


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