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Brian48216 15-02-2003 15:31

Inclement Of Weather, Shipping
 
I don't know how many of you live in the washington DC metro area, but right now we're getting hit with a blizzard of gigantic proportions. Problem is, I don't know if we'll have school on tuesday. And guess where our robot is? Sitting in room 172 in school. So right now it's locked up and I'm worried if we can ship on tuesday or not......anything in the rules about htis?

ReggieB 15-02-2003 17:03

we've put ours into the crate, not really secure yet, and hope to get to school as early as possible on tuesday to finish packing. We were hopping to use sunday and monday to finish some systems (!) and a whole lot of testing.

Hope for a heat wave....

Mimi Brown 15-02-2003 20:02

We are basically in the same situation...we had around 5 inches of snow this morning, and we're supposed to get more tonight and then a lot more tomorrow...but as long as the shipping truck can get to school on tuesday i dont care;)

AlexR 16-02-2003 16:44

chances are though, most shipping companies will not show up with 20 inches of snow on the ground, which is the amount expected up here in new jersey. Any moderators or veterans out there have experience with such a situation in the past??

Kyle 16-02-2003 17:33

we are stuck to. in DE we have about 13in so far in some areas and now no one can drive on the roads so we cant get to our bot and more snow is expected to fall tonight and tommrow

redbeard0531 16-02-2003 21:18

LAW
 
In Maryland it is now ILLEGAL to drive! Is FIRST going to require us to break the law. I doubt it.

BTW, The news man said that this storm is already in the top 5, and may even take the top spot if it continues at this rate!

Tempest 16-02-2003 22:03

this REALLY sucks, we planned on finishing up our autonomous code tomorrow and add our final subsystem to our robot. THIS STORM BLOWS. I hope we can get like 1-2 days added to the shipping date. 1'-2' of snow is a LOT, thats more then enough to stop a car in its tracks.

Stephen Kowski 16-02-2003 22:11

Quote:

Originally posted by ReggieB
Hope for a heat wave....
:p

Coach C 16-02-2003 22:16

Bah!

We've packed sleeping bags and have a small arsenal of food to last the next few days in our machine shop. Been here since 8 this morning, and we'll probably be here until at least that time on Tuesday.

Talk about dedication...heh.

Joe Matt 16-02-2003 22:21

This was sent to all of the VCU attending teams:

Hello, all!

We haven't caught many breaks this season, have we? With about 48
hours to
go, many of us are caught with our robots unfinished and no way to get
them
to drayage. What are we going to do?

We will get an official word from FIRST tomorrow, but my instinct tells
me
that some arrangements will have to be made either online today or by
phone
first thing tomorrow to get the robots picked up. If you have your
crates
ready by the time you specify on the pick up order (which MUST be
before 5 pm
on Tuesday), then you have made a good faith effort to comply with the
"out
of hands" requirement. If the shipper cannot pick up the crate, then
it
should not count against you.

BE CAREFUL! Your three free FedEx shipping labels can only be used for
one
regional, the Championship, and back to you. If you are going to more
than
one regional, these are not to be used for that, your team will have to
absorb that cost. If you were planning to transport your robot to
drayage
yourself, in order to take advantage of the free shipping for the
second
regional, then it looks as though you will also have to absorb the
additional
cost.

But, as I said, the official word will come from us tomorrow.

All efforts to complete your robot must now be turned toward getting it
ready
for pick up. I know it is hard for the new teams to understand, but it
is
really only the most seasoned veterans who run robots in the last match
that
is exactly like it was when it came out of the crate. There are
usually12
hours of modification/completion/tweaking on Thursday, plus endless
adjustments between seeding matches.

And there will be lots of folks willing to offer advice/aid/assistance.

Keep your chins up!
Dee Tomczak
Assistant Coordinator
NASA/VCU/FIRST Robotics Competitions

So basicly, expect a formal FIRST announcment tomorrow along with instructions on what to do.

Paradox 17-02-2003 00:03

Inclement of Weather
 
Just came back from school, it is 11 pm. We worked on tweaking the autonomous program today because we are expecting 10-20 inches of snow tomorrow and doubt if we will be able to get to the school in the morning.
Our robot is ready to go, just have to put it in the crate and wait for Fed EX on Tuesday. I just hope we can get to the school by then.

Wayne C. 17-02-2003 00:33

Snow? What snow?
 
Team 25 spent the last two days "playing with" machine our and working on the autonomous mode. Unlike the past few years, this year's machine has presented us with some "operational challenges" and we will be doing some correction of them in the pits at Annapolis.

Anyway, we started our practice this morning with no snow and left with 6 inches on the ground. The shipping arrangements were made for pickup on noon on Tuesday and for now the machine is in the back of Big Mike's (Mr. Volcano) vehicle to be delivered to BMS early Tuesday morning for crating and pickup.

That is if the 3 ft of snow they are talking about allows us out on the roads. We are already up to about a foot already and NJ has declared a state of emergency.

1089 is in a similar fix and they finished crating tonight. It may not be possible for the team to reach the shop tomorrow but we are going to try. Many of the kids live within a mile of the shop and have promised to walk there if necessary (you know uphill, in the snow with bare feet...)

The "out of hands" provision in the past has allowed neighboring teams to swap robot crates until pickup. Under these extraordinary conditions I am sure FIRST will use common sense and allow some leniency.

Hey, does anybody know if Wissahickon got a replacement drill?

WC:cool:

Wetzel 17-02-2003 01:16

Hey, we can learn lessions. Walking home from Daves house, about a mile, mostly uphill, BUT I wore shoes.

The deepest part was Dave's front walk:rolleyes:, about 20 inches.

Hopefully they can get into the shop by Tuesday, for the crate is there.


Wetzel

f22flyboy 17-02-2003 10:34

we still have a crate to build, and nowhere to build it. :confused:

Madison 17-02-2003 10:45

According to the official FIRST forums, they are planning to make an announcement with regard to the inclement weather conditions at approximately noon today. Specifically, they will address how this affects the shipping deadline.

I hope we're given an extra day or something. I doubt I can manage to get to our sponsors house, that's where everything is, and if we're only given today, we're pretty well screwed.

I can't even open my front door. :-/

evulish 17-02-2003 15:16

Pfft. Snow. Many years, we've had to drive a truck with the bot in it 30 miles to the shipping place in the snow...uphill (both ways). Jeez. Get a 4x4 :)

Ryan Curry 17-02-2003 15:25

20"? Thats Nothing
 
Here in central Jersey, we currently have at least 30" of snow. Its been snowing for over 24 hours and hasnt stopped yet. Schools already cancelled for tomorow, and most likely wednesday too. I hope FIRST wont mind us shipping on thursday. Anyone get more snow then us?

-Rc

Mike Schroeder 17-02-2003 15:35

Re: 20"? Thats Nothing
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ryan Curry
Here in central Jersey, we currently have at least 30" of snow.

-Rc

Central Jersey doesnt have quite that much snow yet.....

Matt Attallah 17-02-2003 16:04

Quote:

Originally posted by evulish
Pfft. Snow. Many years, we've had to drive a truck with the bot in it 30 miles to the shipping place in the snow...uphill (both ways). Jeez. Get a 4x4 :)
[shameless plug]What a good time to get your self a Jeep (if on a budget) or (if you have some extra cash) get your self a 4x4 2500 RAM!![/shameless plug]

We now return you to your regurlar posting...

I have owned a Jeep Cherokee, driven a 1500 Dodge Ram (new Gen) and a 98 Durango, and w/ 4x4 on all of them (Jeep w/ 4x4 Full Time) it was a blast to drive in snow! I WANT SNOW IN SOUTHERN MICHIGAN!!!

Adam Krajewski 17-02-2003 16:07

We have 2 to 3 feet of snow on the ground ALL winter.
197.1 inches this winter, so far.

Right now, we're at 32 inches on the ground without it snowing for a few days.

On a side note, I drive a Jeep Cherokee and it is a blast to drive in all our snow. ;)

Adam

Adam Krajewski 17-02-2003 16:31

Hemi? 12 years too late, my friend. The SyTy's are where it's at. ;)
Quote:

The Syclone is a veritable street eater. She's based on the GMC S15 Sonoma. GMC added special ground effects, wheels, and decals to enhance the truck's image. Under it's pretty exterior is a mustang-eating 4.3 liter Vortec V-6. What's so $@#$@#$@#$@# special you're asking? Well, it could be the all wheel drive system that was mated to the (Corvette) TH 700R4 automatic transmission. Or it could be the liquid intercooled turbo that pushes up to 280hp (disputed to be 330hp) and torque up to 360 lb-ft. Only 2995 of these puppies were made in 1991 (3 in 1992). From a stop, 60mph hits you in under 5 seconds, the quarter mile passes under 14.
Quote:

The day's best times? 0-60 mph in 4.8 seconds; quarter-mile in 13.08 seconds at 100.44 mph. From a pickup truck! We could list a handful of sports cars that would be envious of those numbers.
The Syclone's engine has almost a full second of turbo lag in its power delivery, which actually works to the truck's advantage. This helps give the Syclone something like a Clark Kent/Superman duality. Without the turbo in effect, the truck is mellow enough to drive in everyday, around-town traffic without feeling like it wants to break its reigns and run. Should you need some instant power, however, to pass, to merge into fast-moving traffic or to get yourself out of a troublesome situation, simply floor the accelerator, count one beat and then watch it go.
Adam

Matt Attallah 17-02-2003 16:39

1. Lets see GM ever get a truck that is estimated to be near 5,000 lbs (2.5 Tons) near that speed.

2. Did I see TURBO in there? All Naturally Aspirated

3. It's not a Hemi under the hood (get your facts straight). It's a Viper V-10 pumping out 500 HP and 525 Lb-FT of torque

4. Dodge owns GM (:D :rolleyes: )

5. The 2500 Ram won truck of the year.

6. GM just sucks.

7. The Cherokee will out trail/out run any GM

8. How much was that piece? Ram will be it in price also

9. Nuff Said'

:yikes:

f22flyboy 17-02-2003 17:26

Here's the deal

We're in Virginia, which is supposedly a "southern" state

Instead of getting 2 ft of snow like most of the northern east coast, we got 6 inches to a foot of ICE

Virginia doesn't have the snowplows to clear that kind of precipitation

4 wheel drive still doesn't work that well on ice

Our school district superintindent is a wimp- he closes school for everything. We have had school closed for snow, hurricanes, tornados, rain, snipers, TB, you name it.

Even though our sponsor has keys to the school, it is ILLEGAL for students to be at our school.

Our schools are already completely shut down for Tuesday, will most likely be closed Wednesday, and if we go on Thursday it will probably be delayed. Even with this extension we are still in deep trouble.


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