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Chris 23-02-2003 23:59

As for some of the negativity happening on these forums, I started this thread with the absolute opposite idea in mind. This thread is supposed to be about other teams you want to see. Teams who always produce quality stuff but maybe get swallowed up with all the big name teams. Every one of the teams I named came right to my mind when I think of good teams.
So lets talk more about other teams and less about ourselves.

Chris
Friendly Neighborhood Strategy Head
229 Division By Zero/Clarkson University

Elgin Clock 24-02-2003 00:08

I usually post the pics from my team (237) but I have no pics this year cause my digi-cam died!! I'll try to find one and post it eventually. If my teammates let me that is!! :D

Jay Lundy 24-02-2003 04:46

I'm not sure if we will be posting a picture or not. I wasn't the one taking all the pictures so I don't have any.

I am very happy with how our robot turned out this year, though I'm not sure any pictures of it would be particularly impressive. So don't expect anything like Truck Town's robot out of us.

I'm still waiting to see what Gunn has come up with this year. They were supposed to come up and test their robot on our field but they never showed up!

Ash 25-02-2003 17:34

hehe
 
Well, as for why we ahvent posted pictures of our VERY pink robot, we, uh, are sorta lazy...:D

-Ash

Josh Hambright 25-02-2003 18:01

Quote:

Originally posted by Ed Crammond
im kindof interested in the thinking behind keeping robot pictures secret.

Its not unheard of for teams to copy another teams design or make something similar to it.

every year something like this happens. thinking back in 2001 after beaty had its amazing off the ramp stacker alot of teams showed up to later regionals with strikingly similar designs. Last year alot of teams (461 included) added tape measures for last minute scoring options after the first regional.


I know our team posted pictures but there are a few parts that we didn't want to give away just yet to keep them a surprise and slow other teams down in making similar devices.

Now is this in the spirit of first? Is it gracious professionalism to not share information about your prized device? Or is it not in the spirit of first to copy another robots design?

And i do think that teams probably look at another teams robot just in pictures and say 'what can we do to beat them'

I know that when our team saw Truck Town Thunders bot we all went "ohh crap what can we do to still go under the bar?" and when we saw some of the wall robots which can take over the top of the ramp we said 'can we push them off? what can we do to minimize their ability to dominate'

Our team has already begun scouting other teams much of which is based on pictures posted online and information posted here. I know alot of other teams scout before competitions too. So yah there are totaly reasons why teams wouldn't post pictures.

Not to say that it isn't still fun to look at other peoples bots and its not fun to toot your own horn a bit and post your bot and say WOW LOOK AT THIS THING I SPENT 6 WEEKS OF MY LIFE ON.

Okay i ranted long enough thats my $0.02.

Bill Gold 25-02-2003 18:17

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay Lundy
I'm still waiting to see what Gunn has come up with this year. They were supposed to come up and test their robot on our field but they never showed up!
I heard that Gunn didn't go up to Ames for the same reason 258 didn't; because we never received confirmation that we could get past security at the gate. As for GRT, they've got an interesting robot to say the least. Good drivetrain, and custom circuit board. I'm not sure how successful the rest of their robot will be, but it'll be a fun compeditor/ally at SVR for sure. See you in a few weeks Jay.

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Oh. I'll tell Jim to post a couple more visible photos sometime soon.
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To stick with the thread's theme...
I'm looking forward to seeing 71, 111 (I'm actually desperate to see Wildstang), 116, 236, 254, 330, and 383.
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Dave Flowerday 26-02-2003 00:04

Quote:

Originally posted by Bill Gold
I'm looking forward to seeing ... 111 (I'm actually desperate to see Wildstang) ...
I'm curious: is there any particular reason you're desperate to see our robot? Are you anticipating a certain design or strategy from us?

JVN 26-02-2003 00:26

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave Flowerday
I'm curious: is there any particular reason you're desperate to see our robot? Are you anticipating a certain design or strategy from us?
Stang puts out quality robots, year after year...
I use you guys as a benchmark for quality.
Plus... you always have something cool.

That's why I can't wait to see it!

Plus, I'm curious what the 111 idea of the winning strategy is...

Rook 26-02-2003 00:27

We have a strategy meeting tomorrow night, and I will ask if it's OK for me to post a pic or two. Our robot design is purely offensive. It's not a King of the Hill type thing, but moreso a KOH-Killer. There's not much a team can do to prepare for us until they've seen us play.

I don't think this forum and the pictures are damaging to the teams that post pics. It's not nearly as bad as the rest of FIRST being able to watch complete matches of earlier regionals, and that's not even that damaging.

Kris Verdeyen 26-02-2003 09:41

Looky here:
 
Looks like radar has finally picked up on GeroniMOE - dig it:

http://www.moe365.org/robot.php

EIROBOTICS86 26-02-2003 09:55

Why Would You Wanna See our bot we didnt do good last year

Cory 26-02-2003 10:30

Ummm right... Almost winning the National championship isnt that good. Your standards of goob must be warped.

Cory

Todd Derbyshire 26-02-2003 11:07

Ok I think a few teams that are flying low under the radar are the following(Yes this is going to be biased due to me competing in the Northeast)
7 (Impressive robot last year beat us in Jersey and in Florida)
25
56
95
131
151
157(Teams from Mass get no respect)
173(Ok there the champions but nobody has mentioned them yet why I have no idea)
175
176
190(See Aztechs)
293???? I'm going for Spike here
303
885(very good young team and hey we had alumni that helped them of course I'm going to list them)

Bill Gold 26-02-2003 12:03

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave Flowerday
I'm curious: is there any particular reason you're desperate to see our robot? Are you anticipating a certain design or strategy from us?
I don't have a particular design/strategy in mind for your robot. I'm excited to see your robot because for as long as I've been involved in FIRST (2000+), I've always been in awe of how your team deals with the given tasks each year. I personally think that 111's robot was the best robot of last season.

JVN 26-02-2003 12:12

Quote:

Originally posted by Todd Derbyshire
Ok I think a few teams that are flying low under the radar are the following(Yes this is going to be biased due to me competing in the Northeast)
7 (Impressive robot last year beat us in Jersey and in Florida)
25
56
95
131
151
157(Teams from Mass get no respect)
173(Ok there the champions but nobody has mentioned them yet why I have no idea)
175
176
190(See Aztechs)
293???? I'm going for Spike here
303
885(very good young team and hey we had alumni that helped them of course I'm going to list them)

Many of the robots you listed above, have already been released... including 173... no one is talking about them, because we already know what they do. Same with 190.


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