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MattK 28-02-2003 21:31

Stupidity, Genetic?!?
 
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993451

O boy, I'm doomed

Melissa Nute 28-02-2003 21:39

Re: Stupidity, Genetic?!?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by MattK
O boy, I'm doomed
Yes you are

FotoPlasma 28-02-2003 21:42

Re: Re: Stupidity, Genetic?!?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Meli W.
Yes you are
Only as much as anyone else...

This just means that he's incurable...

/me pauses.

I kill me.

MattK 28-02-2003 22:00

Re: Re: Stupidity, Genetic?!?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Meli W.
Yes you are

awww you guys are so nice :D

Mike Schroeder 28-02-2003 22:39

well, they responded, with an apperant accurate assesment, why must you be so sarcastic

Btw, nice pic with the cardboard cut out

Ian W. 28-02-2003 22:43

or maybe it's his genes showing themselves. he's so stupid, that he takes insults as compliments... :p

evulish 28-02-2003 22:48

Shallow comment of the day:

Watson, no stranger to controversy, also suggests that genes influencing beauty could also be engineered. "People say it would be terrible if we made all girls pretty. I think it would be great."

Now THAT'S what I'm talking about. Finally, genetic research has a use! :P

srjjs 28-02-2003 22:58

So I'm not the only one who noticed that! He's a pretty smart guy. I agree 100%.:D
Stupidity, on the other hand, is fine. It makes me look smarter than I really am.

Team238-aholic 01-03-2003 10:13

Being a psych and bio major....intelligence can be inherited through genetics...thats if you believe in the whole nature theory, but then if you more a nuture theory person....intelligence is just learned throughout school and such....

FAKrogoth 01-03-2003 11:00

Oh shut up. It's been perfectly obvious for many, many years that both heritage and experience affect overall intelligence. For example, people who grew up with little or poor schooling are usually unable to learn easily. On the other hand, twins, even when reared separately, are quite alike in thinking patterns (you sometimes have to look for quite a while to see it, though - I know a set of twins who almost never act the same way together, but a bit of phase shift accounts perfectly for this).

Anyone who refuses to acknowledge that either nature or nurture has an impact is being intentionally blind. Exactly which areas each will affect is still up for debate and investigation, though.


As some sort of proof of the genetics of intelligence, I want to be an electrical engineer. My father is a chemical engineer. My paternal half-brother is working on his PhD in Computer Science. One related uncle an electrical engineer. Both grandfathers were electrical engineers. Do you see a pattern of thinking modes?

AJ Quick 01-03-2003 11:07

Great.. proof that I'm adopted.

Brm789 01-03-2003 14:47

Ok....now why is it that if stupidity is inherited that everything else isn't? My dad is extremely smart in math and I, suck at it. I hate genetics!

FAKrogoth 01-03-2003 19:08

You are aware of the law of averages, and it corollary, Finagle's Law, right? Remember, genetics is not an exact science. Like any sort of real life application, it's all probability. I can see that just looking at my sister!

. . .

Kidding! I actually think the expression of my genetic disposition for thinking procedurally has been influenced by testosterone. Only one of my female relatives has it. Odd, no?

John Bono 04-03-2003 20:18

Don't forgent, FAK, that you were raised in a family where education and reasoning skills were prized. Added to this was your mother's ability to raise you. It's easy to do everything for a kid. The hard way is to teach it reasoning, logic, and deductive thought. I know my parents did an awesome-tastic job :D .

FAKrogoth 04-03-2003 20:54

My mother didn't teach me to think. She kind of wants me to think, but only in her way.

In fact, I was just informed today that if I miss one more assignment, she would not pay for me to go out-of-state for college.

srjjs 04-03-2003 22:49

The relation between parents and children can be interpreted as either nature or nurture. You get your parents' genes, but you also live with them for the most important years of your life developmentally.
Any relation between parents and children is not necessarily a victory for genetics over education.

MarkF 05-03-2003 11:57

b/s. My mother was far from being the brightest person in the world, and my IQ measured to be bordeline genius.

John Bono 05-03-2003 17:19

I love how everyone says "borderline genius" instead of just giving the actual number. Must you ignore that every IQ test measures genius at a different number? I've heard of one that puts it at 130 (laughable).

srjjs 06-03-2003 00:52

IQ tests are worthless anyways. You can tell whether someone is smart without any tests.

MarkF 06-03-2003 11:19

Okay, you want a number? The guy who admin'd the test said that the "genius" number in 160 or above. My IQ is 159. DANG IT I always fall JUST BARELY short!!!

John Bono 06-03-2003 21:53

Thank you. Now was that so hard? 159--see. True 160 is the generally accepted "genius" level, but some tests put it lower (much to my chagrin). Then again, I've only taken a few IQ tests in my life--and none serious. Somewhere around 150 is what thespark.com's newest IQ test gave me (which, appearantly, doesn't exist anymore). So, I can't really say, as that's not the best place to take an IQ test... but I assume it's in that neighborhood.


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