I take offense because you imply that I am " refusing to listen to any other reason without thought."

Are you sorry, or are you just pretending? Here's a hint: If you are going to apoligize, don't generalize and bash people in the process. Particularly with the nationals coming up next week.

Thanks.

Because I can't apologize in person and because I cannot express my emotions completely through a keyboard, I will end in saying that I apologize again for continuing to offend people. I have my opinion about the rule and you have yours and I shall respect that in the future without harsh criticism. If you accept my apology, I appreciate it.

My personal view on this:

There was no violation of any rules so if you complain, you're just whining. Whoopdeedo, someone got pinned; so let them go and build a better strong robot.

The greater majority of teams out there are boxes; if you can't stack or do something else unique, at least build a strong drive.

FIRST won't change this rule now and it's a good rule to stick with for future years. It works as a tradeoff for many aspects of the game which try to balance the effectiveness of different types of strategy.

Oh yeah; I'd love to see that video of the pinning. I'll sit here contently in front of my monitor and cheer on the stronger robot while appreciating its drive train and strength. And I'll laugh at the every weak robot that I see from now on, not because it's getting pinned, but because someone thought it was unfair that a stronger robot could use its strength for something. Waaaaaaaaaaahhhhh

Or build a 2-speed transmission, so you can be both fast AND powerful (but not both at the same time)

Monsieurcoffee just said it so well.

;)

Two speed gearboxes work....but on pinning....I saw at UCF, one team was in the corner and the other was defending its stack from the other team. Now that was tricky...to do both without knocking the stack over. Its not cheap! But think about pinning ties down one of the opposing alliance. Often the one with the best traction/power. That leaves, hopefully for your partner (of their bot runs) to deal with the remaining opponent. This may allow you to gain control of the ramp. Like the saying in War, the plan is only as good until the first shot. And reconassiance (scouting other teams in our case) is seldom wasted. I remember my Freshman year, I found out that one team had a brake at the last minute and ran to the stage to tell our Coach cause we were up gainst them next match. But pinning...try to avoid it. But sometimes you can make a break and actually use it to your advantage.

But here, being on SPAM, we have Speed, Power, and Maneuverability.

surprized nobody called me on this one

2HP times 4 robots times 2 minutes => energy

not power! (oops!)

:c)

fixed: - so thats like having 24 young men going wild for 2 minutes - thats how much ENERGY is available during a match.