238 can upright and stack boxes....but....don't use it...due to the fact that no one has been stacking...its all about knocking down and clearing away the boxes....

Re: Me Me Me
 

:confused:

No, we can't. Our robot is not designed to orient the bins in any way.

Granted, we would be able to orient the bins by picking them up and dropping them, or using our collective spiritual energies to "will" the boxes into the proper position. Or perhaps (this hasn't been tested) by chanting in Elvish, we could get the boxes to turn the right way.

(and the chant for that is:

Nin o Chithaeglir, lasto beth daer:
Rimmo nin Bruinen dan in Ulaer!

(x2) )


Unfortunately, it’s not happening anytime soon in a real match. Sorry. We don’t have an ability to reorient bins. At all. Thank you.

--Ben
--Also from Team 303

www.orbitreview.com/~temp/orienting.rm

Realmedia format.

Re: Re: Me Me Me
 

Our stacker had some problems that needed worked out, and there were some strategical things that were not worked out. I am hopeful that we will be a more impressive stacker at Philly and Nationals.

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OK, so if we can't orient bins within two minutes, can we do it??

NO!

It is not a designed ability of our robot, it is not a reliable capability of our robot, it is not a functional capability of our robot.

Perhaps by PURE CHANCE, we could pick up and drop a bin so it lands sunny side up. But random chance is hardly an ability.

Actually, I was there for *plenty* of practice time, and in the hours spent practicing, I know that we cannot orient bins. I have not once seen us reorient a bin, EVER.

Maybe you did it once, but that is hardly an “ability." Before I posted, I talked to 303’s pilot, and he also agreed that we did not have the ability, and your post was in error.

If you don't think that I'm doing a satisfactory job at coaching/human player/database/Intel gathering, feel free to tell me in person, instead of alluding to it on these boards. I have contributed a lot to the team this year, and do not appreciate being belittled by YOU here.

--Ben

We can and our orienter also serves as a two or three bin stacker.

a lil off topic but, had anyone thought of setting up their stacks so that they would be able to go under the bar and pick up their stack, do stuff like clear their goal area/get crates in your area, and then drop it off at the near end?

I'm just a little disappointed because I only saw only one stacker actually used in Hartford, and there was ABSOLUTELY NO stacking/orienting at all in New York regionals!!!!

Err..you mean carry a stack around through the whole match?

You'd better be ready to take a beating though - that robot would be an instant target.

810 hasn't done so yet but I believe that was their intended function. They would pick up a stack of 4, hold it, move to the bar, deattach the arm and reattach it to the robot on the other side. It's a great concept and I'd love to see it work.

Btw, any thoughts on www.orbitreview.com/~temp/orienting.rm ?

Why waste time orienting the boxes? why not just stack them upside down or rightside up.

:D ;)

We can, and did at UCF, once, and we lost

but think about it, a bot that would simply carry a stack around for the entire game (even a stack of 2) could turn the tide in a game! Just carry those human player stacks around, and drop them off 10 secs before the end, and fly up that ramp!

Sorry bout talking about all this theoretical stuff, just disappointed to the reality that most teams hardly ever used their arms. Expecting a whole lot more action in Nats.:D

aye

hmm, sounds like a certain robot that I know and love...Go GeroniMOE.