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It's better than doing nothing at all.

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We have a team of 60 or so students but only 3 or so girls, all of which are on the mechanical design and build team. (There might be a few more on web or animation but we never see those people) We've tried to recruit more, it's been a little bit of a problem because our corporate sponsors want to see more girls on our team. We've tried to attract some more to our team but haven't had too much success so far.

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I am from MOE and this year we have 9 girls out of a team of 30- thats so exciting! I was one of 3 two years ago, and then one of 4 last year. Even though I am the only returning girl, they all jumped right in and started working. We have girls in every aspect of the team- mechanical, programming, web design, PR and spirit, electical, pneumatics, and the list goes on... :D

~Melissa

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I disagree. Do things because YOU want to do them for YOUR reasons.

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We've got 5 girls this year. Which is up from 1 last year :). Most of them write for the website and do journal/PR stuff. The two that are doing "real" work this year are invaluable.

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Actually we make a conscious effort to draw girls and minorities to our team (Wilson Magnet is an inner city school after all). Diversity is a big deal with us. Everyone places different values on diversity and just because yours are not as high as ours does not make our preferences wrong.

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we are a team of about 30 i guess, some are dropping as build season goes on as usual, so its unknown right now. I would say 10 to 15 are girls. I personally am a part of the chairmans team and business, media, scouting, and human player. At our own competition Ramp Riot, i was head coach for our booth crew :) very fun. The other girls do various things on the team. 5 or 6 are on build/electrical. Others are on awards and scouting etc. Everyone gets a chance to do what they want. No girl is told that she cant build or anything. I think the girls on our team play a big part :D i think that could apply to any team!

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We have 10 girls on our team of 30 or so...

I am the drive train team lead, one is a programmer and webmaster, one does marketing, one does chassis, and the other 6 do spirit.

-Modeish

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Out of the 68 active members on our team 30 are female.
Of this 30, 18 are on the administrative team, 8 are on the electrical team, 3 are on the mechanical team and 1 is on the programming team.

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Last year we had two girls on our team, and they did PR stuff. This year we have like five girls on the team (1 in auxilary,1 in drive and 3 PR).

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Well lets see. Just to start, I am a girl. This is my second year on the HHS Robotics Team #698, and I've been told I'm one of the top kids in the class/club. Last year, I was the secretary, and this year I am the press correspondant (I did run for President though).

I think alot of girls that join robotics teams are looked down on, but that seems to end once they prove themselves. Sometimes it just takes a year to fall into it and get adjusted. Last year's AZ Regional was my shining moment. I really started to learn how everything worked, did work, and now I'm having a blast. I am a member of our Drive Train Team, and I spend all my time in the shop machining, building, wiring, you name it. They even call me the "Robo Chick."

I do believe that some girls are in the sport for the wrong reasons, but sometimes it takes time for them to realize that it's not for them. Instead of looking down on them, give them something to do! If they really don't want to do it, then they will leave, otherwise, you may just end up with another amazing team member full of talent. I've made a ton of friends that I will keep for life, and I've learned so much along the way. Every day I wake up the first thing that pops into my mind is "How long until I get to robotics class?!" It might sound corny, but by far, this is the most fun I've ever had and I love to get my hands greasy and get cut up. I'm a tom-boy, yes, but this is what I love to do. I am accepted by the both the boys and the girls on the team alike, and I love what I do.

We have about 20 kids in our robotics class, and an additional 10 or so in the club, but about 20 of us are hard core and show up everyday to build and work. Out of these 30 members, we only have 5 or 6 girls on the team, myself included. Most of them are hard working, and I know one of them is very into the animation and she wants to make a career out of it. She contributes to us greatly in that way. Another is on the Drive Team with me, and two of them work with our pneumatics systems. The other girls work on various projects, but both do a great deal of building and construction. Overall, most of the girls that join and discover that they are not interested leave within the first couple months of the school year. So by the time build season rolls around, anyone that doesn't really want to work won't show up again or has quit a long time before. The same goes for the boys.

In the end, we all seem to look at each other and regard each other the same. If you work and hold up your position, then you are a great asset to the team, otherwise, maybe it's not your thing and you need to find something else to do. Robotics isn't a cheerleader's club, but cheerleaders are welcome to join. On our team, it is everyone's individual responsibility to check their egos at the door, come in with a positive attitude, and be willing to work.

Girls are tough, we can do what the boys can do, and don't ever expect us to just sit in the corner and sweep.

By the way? How is your robot coming along? It's the end of week two. Our robot's base and drive system is fully assembled and it runs under power. It is complete except for additional programming and the arm. Good luck to you all! :]

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I am not exactly sure how many girls there are on our team, but there are a lot. And they do just as much of the important jobs as the guys do.

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5 of our 15 members are girls. 3 are involved with the business end -- PR, Web design, fundraising, etc. The other 2 are responsible for about 95% of the structural build of our robot. We could also probably be further along than we are if not for those two having to spend almost a full day correcting mistakes by the guys on the electrical subteam who were "helping" after the girls left one day. And from a mentor/teacher standpoint, the best part of all is that they are freshmen.

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We have six girls on our team of 35 people and all of them work on the robot. I'm one of the three team welders.

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I didn't read every single reply to your post on here, but I bet there are some other teams that are like mine. Our team has approximately 15-20 student members on it (depending on how you determine membership) and only one of those students is a girl: ME.

I don't know exactly how I became the only female on the team; last year we had probably 7 girls on a 25-member team, but apparently, when we lost some of our members, we lost ALL (or almost all) the girls at once. Anyway, it doesn't bother me that much, being the only girl there.

I am the marketing manager for GRR, as you can see from my signature, so I do most of the PR work, along with help from mainly my family. Unfortunately, we don't have many boys interested in anything other than the actual building of the robot (electronics, mechanics, computer design, etc.), so I am pretty much alone in the PR team. I worry that nobody will pay any attention to our need of money until it's too late and we find out we spent $6,000 for our kit of parts and first competition just to find out we didn't raise enough money to pay for transportation and a hotel.

On top of that, I am one of the 2 team captains, while the other is another senior boy, and, according to our school's last pep rally and this boy's constant reminders, we are the Team King and Queen (don't ask). I've been at the shop almost every day, excluding Sundays when the team rests and yesterday to do a band audition and go to my winter formal. I've been involved in all the decision-making about our robot's design, and I plan to do anything I can in the shop (electronics, mechanics, computer design, etc.) that they need me to do, despite the fact that I have almost no experience in machining or doing programming.

I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed, since I have the added responsibility of getting our PR packets and presentations out to businesses, in my own spare time, on top of doing all the robotics work at the shop each day. But I still love it, and I can't wait to see how our robot turns out. After all, this is what I want to do with my life - I want to work for NASA in the future, possibly on robotic missions at the Jet Propulsions Laboratory, in Pasedena, CA.

Well, that's about it. I'm going to go do homework now so I can continue my never-ending education. Good luck to all of you! I hope to see some of you at the Sacramento Regional, if we can ever get the money to go there!

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There is 17/34 girls on my team. We also have two CADET (Classmates Aspiring to Develop Engineering and Technology) girls on our team too! All of the girls are divided into different subteams and has different jobs or roles for the team. To emphasize, one of the girls is working on our team website, 2+ girls are the photographers along w/ other guys, 6 girls on the spirit team, and there are plenty of other jobs that my team has enrolled for everyone.

The good thing is that one or maybe even two girls will be on the drive team for this year's competitions!!

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There are about 20 people on our team, Nobotics (1304). I am please to inform you that about half of the people on our team are females, and half of those females are active in the construction of the robot, including me. Thre are a few more males than females working on the robot, but nobody is forced to do a certain job.

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I'm sorry that you misunderstood my intention completely. This has nothing to do with rebellion or "breaking the stereotypes" as the DRIVING FORCE. At our school, I have been called a disgrace to girls mearly because I was in robotics/programming--hence my comment for "breaking the stereotypes". If it comes off as COMPLETELY trying to rebel or demolish the former idea, I apologize. If you need clarification, read the comment posted by my dear friend ArmoredFairy698. Since the original post was that the all-girls team was hearing of girls as cheerleaders and non-relavant positions to robotics--hence the word STEREOTYPE--I was slightly taken-a-back at the statement. I am sorry that my message was not clear enough, offended you, gave you a misudnerstanding or played off your pet-peeve. That was not my intention. Again, I urge you to read ArmoredFairy698's post. It may be clearer for you--since it is worded differently. I, again, apologize.

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No need to apologize at all. Really. It was a simple miscommunication on both our parts.

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This year 696 has one female student who is doing electronics/machining/programming and a female engineer who is focused mainly on electronics/sensors/programming. This is a big improvement over 0 females last year.

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HILOW we are team 1566 and well being a rookie team we only have three girls on our team, out of twenty-five of us, and they do anything from programming to html codeing on our webpage. I hope this is helpful. :cool:

Ryan

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HPA Robotics currently has 4 female team members, if you count the student that is our videographer. Of the 3 students on our team who are currently doing their 3rd or 4th year of FIRST, 2 are girls (I am the third). One of the two is both our lead electrical engineer and software engineer, the other dabbles in a bit of everything, seems to prefer mechanical work, and is potentially next year's replacement for my position as team captain. The 4th female team member is a junior new to our school this year, who was on a FIRST robotics team as a sophomore. She is on our programming team and also helps out a lot with both electrical and mechanical.

Our team essentially has 5 or 6 students who have the experience and maturity to actually make decisions and solve the hard problems, the rest of the team is new to FIRST. They still need to learn, and want to be told what to do. Of those 5-6 lead students, 3 are female.

I haven't read any of this thread (it's too long!), but from my team's point of view, FIRST is definitely not male-dominated. In fact, I'd say in that in the high school world, FIRST is one of the few places that sexual equality is easily proven.

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I have a unique perspective on this; much of it is due to my personal experience:

I am female (duh :rolleyes: ). During high school I was one of 5 females on a team of 20 students. I entered the team without any technological knowledge, so I sought information and education on how to machine, prototype, and design. I had mild success but I found a greater passion: the PR, the awards, being interviewed with judges, and event organization. Next to that stuff I still machined parts in the shop and enjoyed it, could I do both?

I went to school to study Mechanical Engineering because robots are cool and I was a FIRST female who wanted to break the stereotype. After two years in college I realized that I was trying to be somebody I'm not. I'm not a designer, I'm not a person absolutely enjoys taking things apart & putting them back together again, and I'm not a person who enjoys talking about gear boxes all throughout a FIRST gathering after a regional. All I was doing was breaking a stereotype, but in order to be true to Who I Am I decided that life isn't about being who you want to be, but being who you are.

I'm a person who can make ideas happen. I can dream up a FIRST off-season competition, ask people for a tens of thousands of dollars, and organize the event. I enjoy making my ideas turn into reality. I feel like more of an entrepreneur. Oh great, another FIRST female going into business - Not Really. I'm now studying Industrial Engineering and I'm loving it! However, I do want to get a high-tech MBA afterwords.

Basically, I want to be a person who creates jobs for engineers. Not one of those engineers who fill a position.

I want to learn how to weld, machine better, and I enjoy working on FIRST robots with teams who need the help (not teams with 7 engineers who've been working together for ten years and are set in their ways). But this is only a hobby. I'm not tech-minded, I wasn't raised to be, and what I'm good at/enjoy can make me a lot of money in the future.

Girls, if you are techy, great! If you're not, don't worry about it. We're all good at something and FIRST can show you what that is. Just remember, be true to WHO YOU ARE.


erin

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well on 481's team we have about 3 girls on our team. one of them is even the Captain!! as far as their jobs go they get down and do just as much if not more of the heavy machine duty than the rest of the team. For anyone who doesn't know about Alyssa then you are missing out. she is the heart, soul, muscle, and mind of our team and you would be hard pressed to find someone more dedicated. to put it simply, that girl makes the team what it is. even as one of the guys I can see her worth to all of us.

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Heh. Very true. Since this year's my rookie year, I don't know much about previous years, but I'm really glad there are a good amount of girls this year, and we're actually doing a lot of work, and doing it separately instead of flocking all together.

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We don't have many girls on our team- currently we have 4 girls-but all of them do as much work as the boys. ;)

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Hi well i'm the only girl in the team and i'm the manager. I'm the one in charge of all the project :ahh: I'd just like to tell you all guys that it's really hard to work with all guys please be nice to them and include them in all the activties, sometimes girls don't do anything because they don't know anything that is why you guys have to help them and explain stuff and don't treat them like they're stupid

We're actually pretty smart and helpfull :)

cheers

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45 now has 6 or 7 girls on our team now. They are master spacer makers. They also help with the Chairmans and Woodie Flowers awards. Last year we didn't have any that went to the regionals. But IRI, we had a few go and they actually stayed on the team, so now we won't be an "all boy" team anymore! :)

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Thats exactly what I was failing so miserably at saying. :o

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Our team captain is a girl as is our main mentor. Other than that, no other girls have joined the team.

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we have 3 girl members and 2 girl alumni who come to the meetings. the 3 girl members are all newbies this year so they have not had any huge jobs yet, but they help out whenever they can. the more involved of our female alumni (Kiwi_queen) is in charge of cheer/buttons/theming (known on our team as the Volcano Crew), and this is where the girl members mainly help out. our other girl alumni does not have enough time to get as involved, but she was on the battery crew for all 4 of her years as a member.

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I was quite mollified when I saw this topic here at ChiefDeliphi. It interested me to see the roles of girls on other teams, as I have always wondered, Are the girls on the other teams doing the same things as me?

My name is Joy, and I am a fifteen-year-old sophomore at my school. I am one of the few rookies on the team this year, this being my first year. I've been interested in Robotics since I-don't-know-when, because my dad is an engineer and I've been exposed to the atmosphere for a fairly long time. I love electronics, and hence I am one of the two electronics apprentices. The other apprentice is a freshman, of the male gender. XD

There are 22 students who have signed up to be on the team, 15 of whom are active. And of those 15, 5 of us are girls: 1 freshman, 1 sophomore (me), 2 juniors, and 1 senior. Diverse, no? What's more, is that 1 junior and the senior girls have been members for more than a year. They are also council members, secretary and treasurer. Not much, you might say. But I say that their being on the council made me want to join even more.

Like I said, I am an electronics apprentice. This means that I'm learning on how to work on the electronics, how things work, and why. I love it! :D It's just one of the things that I love, I suppose. I am also on the chassis team, helping to build the robot.

Relationships between the girls and the guys here are quite easy-going, and everyone works great with anyone else. However, (yes folks, however) there are times when I myself feel that the guys think they know more. But of course, this might be due to the fact that I'm just a rookie. -__-; So really, I can't speak.

I must say, though, that many people find it hard to believe that I am on the Robotics team in the first place. This is because my other love is Art & Theater, which by the way, is no easy task, either. Still, the jump from Theater to Robotics is still pretty big, and balancing the two would be yet another wall to scale. Yes, with the Spring Musical coming up as well, this will be a pretty interesting season.

Ciao,
~Joy

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I'm not sure how many girls are on our team exactly, but they're involved in all areas. It's true that most of them end up doing administrative jobs like fundraising, but we have girls on our mechanical and electrical teams. I, for one, am the only girl programmer on my team :( But maybe I can recruit others for next year. Just thought I'd share.

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We have 7 girls out of 22 total students...3 are freshmen, 3 are juniors, and 1 is a senior. We have no sophomore girls, but that's because there are only 4 sophomores on our team. :rolleyes:

Most of our girls are actually in PR...I'm editor of the newsletter and webmaster for our site, another girl is head of scouting, another puts together our Chairman's Award. But we all get involved in the construction process whenever we can, and our backup driver and operator are female, so next year we'll probably have a predominantly female drive team.

Our 3 captains are male, but with only 1 senior girl, that's not surprising. Next year, will a good number of the juniors being female, we'll probably have a more diverse group of captains.

The girls on our team work well with the guys: anything related to girls not being able to do something because of their gender is a joke, and is taken as such. We're all friends here! :D

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Well we have 10 girls (about) on our team.. All the girls range in different jobs... I know that on the electrical team there are 4 girls me included. I am the leader on the electrical team... So I mean there are a lot of girls that get involved with the robot.. One of our girls also does mechanical. Then there is one girl on software.. It is her first year on the team and she already knows more about software then I do! But that is ok because she is cool! Then we have one girl on playing field who is also a freshman and she does a lot with that! Then we have 2 of our girls on video.. Which they do an awesome job with we always have a good end of the year video!!!!! So on our team girls have the same amount of envolvement as the guys... There are just more guys then there are girls!

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On WildStang we have 10 girls on the team (i think) and I am happy to say that we all do a lot of work on different areas of the robot.
One thing that I do want to say is that publicity and cheerleading is not a bad thing. I am the head of the video team which is like publicity and to tell you the truth it is a good asset to the team. Whenever the software team wants to immediately check auto mode they can using our taped matches. Movies also give schools around the US a chance to see FIRST though the eyes of students.
Also cheerleader is a noble role for a FIRSTer, be it male or female, how else are the other teams going to know you are there? Also cheering lets people on your team playing active roles in compititions, not everyone can drive, but everyone can gather up in a large clump of FIRST spirit and cheer their hearts out!

WildStang also has 4 female members on their 7 member chairman's team.

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We have a team of 37 this year, and 5 girls. 1 is head of draftsmen (they have been sorely under-worked this year, somehow we got 5 draftsmen, and only need 1 or 2) 2 do photo/video stuff and 2 do pr/team spirit.

But we are a technical school, so our main girl student body is in Cosmetology, Floral design, landscaping, Health occupations, agriculture. But there is a significant number also in Printing, and CAD though. 3 of the 5 come from CAD, and the other 2 are in CANT (Computers and Networking Technology, the seniors last year came up with it and it stuck) I was hoping for more girls, but that is how things go.

But the one who is our lead draftsmen likes to use the mill, so when she has the work done, and no freshman to wrangle, she does that.

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Well, on our team, there are about 17 people on our team, 696, and we only have one girl.....me. Basically, my job includes programing, electrical, and machining. I am also partially incharge of fundraising efforts on the team. :]
But the truth is, it really is hard to be the only or one out of three girls on a team because no one takes you seriously. To All the guys out there: don't exclude girls or make fun of them, because really, we are just as strong. :cool:

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The girls on my team have varying positions in programming, publicity, animation, building the actual robot. Basically there is at least 1 or 2 girls in each of the committees

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Three of the five girls we have this year are on electronics, the other two do mechanical. They are all very talented and eager to learn. Having girls on the team definitely spices up the atmosphere.

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well !st semester we only had one girl and she was doing programing and electronics,but now we have 3,(1+2) and the other 2 are doing web crap for us, codeing and camra-ing, and such.so ya not to many to my dissatisfation..i would love to have more girls on my team...email me ladys!!!!

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This year MOE has I think 9 girls, a new record for us. The girls all have very important roles on the team, one of them Melissa fox(Mclissa) is head of the pneumatics team, others are on our drive train team, web and animation teams, programing and electrical also, I think that there is a girl on each of our sub teams this year. I think it is great to have girls on the team, and thats not just because I am a guy and enjoy the company of girls. The girls have given us new and fresh ideas and have helped keep some of us guys in check during some of the meetings. :)

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Girl you awesome! This is my first year too, and I am a dancer as well. I work on the "frame and drive train" team as well as an arm team. It's so much fun and I understand that whole balance issue. Also, the guys around our team think they know more than we girls (which is mostly true in my case, but hey I'm learning!) but most of them don't know enough to have "security under their belts." Our GREAT president does, this being his fourth year, and he is the one teaching me. Him and ArmoredFairy698 (sp?) are my tutors this year--not to mention my two best friends. I was on the team "unofficially" last year, and I know it's tough. Balancing is hard, especially with two opposite ended spectrums, but hang in there! Robotics is so much fun and I'm glad I joined! That probablly had nothing to do with what you were saying, but I thought I'd add my two cents... :)

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We have 30 students on our team. 4 of the 30 our girls. 3 of the 4 are on the promotions team and do things that involve buying supplies, working the website, chairmans award woodies flowers award etc. The other girl is actually on the electronics team and is one of the best workers. She is also our lead strategist.

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there are two girls on the team this year. one does CAD and the other one does marketing and floats between sub-groups that need help

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Well, being an all girls school, Elmwood's team is 100% female. However, all of our mentors are guys/men.

The information you were actually looking for: We've got a team of 25 girls, and 6 mentors.

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We have seven girls on a team of thirty. Our girls are very active and participate on each of our four committees. Three of these girls are student managers for the team. They are AMAZING!!!! They do so much for the team. However, we find it very surprising that only 23% of our team is female. Thus it would be quite nice if we could get more girls to participate. We have girls building, working with our logo and public relations as well as helping wherever they can. It brings an unusal, but much needed balance to the team. So, girls, everywhere! get involved!! And for those that are, kudos and keep keepin' it real...

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on 108 we have about, 10-15 girls on the team. there are about 40 people on our team. most of the other girls, actually, all the other girls are on PR or Graphics or animations or something like that. i'm on mechanical. i beleive that there is one other girl.im basically the only girl that works. but, the other girls on the team do do amazing work. and im proud that they do what they do. the fact that about, half of them show up to the meetings is disappointing. but, the ones that do, are good at what they do.

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i am the only girl on my team ; i would say that i pretty much get along with all of them . our team is only made up of 7 and about 4 mentors. being a rookie team we are all kinda lost on this. The guys just wanna build and play and have fun they dont like doing any of the hard work. So most of it falls on me , though if i needed one of them to do something they would in a heartbeat

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WBI has 6 girls on the 26 person tech team as well as 5 out of 22 on IT and all three of our PR members. Also 5 of our 18 mentors our female. Most of the girls on our team give everything they've got. The problem on our team is not that the girls are intimidated by the guys but dealing with the comments the guys make about our being female.

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Personally, I think teams with alot of girls are lucky.... More brains! No offense to all us guys, but you have to admit the girls do tend to think about things before they do them, unlike most of us guys... Our team only has 4, 3 white girls and one crazy PR girl we call "Isha", my conterpart during the competition. (Our team has two mascots, since I can no longer be the Lego Maniac I'm now the King Jester & she claimed the other side of the throne.) Seriously though, the girls on the New England teams seem braver than the guys and I wouldn't be suprised. Girls need to have a voice on a team. It lets you see things from all aspects. :D Well, enough said... does anybody know any of the teams in the Arizona Regional this year? My team's going there this year and it would be nice to meet some new people, not from the east coast. :]

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my team has over 50% girls...of coarse they are smarter and better at everything, except the heavy stuff, dont wanna break a nail u kno, lol... :) we have spirit yes we do, we have the spirit how about you!!! :D as you cant tell im hyper but thats nothing compared to the resident cheer nazis, girls of coarse. :cool:

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yeah. i agree with you. not so much of the fact that i'm a girl but, i know some guys, in general, just tend to do without even thinking. as for the arizona regional, the teasm are: 38 Teams Attending
Team # Team Name City, State 1st Event?
1. 60 Ford/Southwire/Laron Engineering & Kingman High School Kingman, AZ Y
2. 64 GM Desert Proving Ground & Highland High School & Queen Creek High School Mesa, AZ Y
3. 80 Watts Premier & Cortez High School Phoenix, AZ Y
4. 190 WPI & Massachusetts Academy of Math and Science Worcester, MA N
5. 192 Gunn High School & PARC Palo Alto, CA Y
6. 207 Walt Disney Imagineering & C.V.U.H.S.D. and Hawthorne High School Hawthorne, CA Y
7. 234 Rolls-Royce/IUPUI/LHTEC & Perry Meridian High School Indianapolis, IN Y
8. 294 Raytheon/Northrop Grumman/RENT.COM/Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers & Redondo Union High School & Mira Costa High School (Manhattan Beach) Redondo Beach, CA Y
9. 330 J&F Machine/Raytheon/NASA/Goddard/Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers & Hope Chapel Academy Hermosa Beach, CA Y
10. 399 Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers/NASA Dryden Flight Research Center & Lancaster High School Lancaster, CA Y
11. 498 Cactus High School Glendale, AZ Y
12. 585 NASA Dyden Flight Research Facility/Northrop Grumman & Tehachapi High School Tehachapi, CA Y
13. 606 Raytheon Company/The Boeing Company/Northrop Grumman/Employees Community Fund of Boeing California/Los Angeles Trade Tech College & King Drew Magnet High School of Medicine & Science Los Angeles, CA Y
14. 610 The Bank of Nova Scotia/Enbridge Integrated Building Technologies/Siemens Canada Limited/Plan Group Ltd./Torcomp Inc./NOCO Energy Corp. & Crescent School Toronto, ON Y
15. 696 Hamilton Engineering/Glendale Community College & Clark Magnet High School La Crescenta, CA Y
16. 698 Microchip & Hamilton High School Chandler, AZ Y
17. 842 NASA/Inline Inc./Phelps Dodge Corp. & Carl Hayden High School Phoenix, AZ Y
18. 851 Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers & Jubilee Torrance Academy Torrance, CA Y
19. 861 ?? ??, ?? Y
20. 872 NASA/American Electric Power/Columbus State Community College/NSF-DUE & Marion-Franklin High School & Southeast Career Center Columbus, OH Y
21. 888 NASA Goddard Space Flight Center & Glenelg High School Glenelg, MD Y
22. 898 NASA/Quality Machining & Fabrication LLC & Ironwood High School Glendale, AZ Y
23. 973 NASA/Cal Poly SLO & Atascadeo High School Atascadero, CA Y
24. 980 NASA/Crystal View Corp. & Pinewood Academy & Delphi Academy & Mary's Schoolhouse & Renaissance Academy La Canada Flintridge, CA Y
25. 991 Tommy Gate Company/Ryan Companies US, Incorporated/Express Packaging and Crating/Chas Roberts Air Conditioning/Kitchell Contractors/Shaffer's Welding Shop & Brophy College Preparatory Phoenix, AZ Y
26. 996 Casa Grande Union High School Casa Grande, AZ Y
27. 998 NASA/The Challenger Learning Center of Alaska & Soldotna High School Soldotna, AK Y
28. 1011 University of Arizona & Sonoran Science Academy Tucson, AZ Y
29. 1136 NASA/Navair & Mt. Miguel High School Spring Valley, CA Y
30. 1165 Paradise Valley High School Phoenix, AZ Y
31. 1212 Microchip Technology Inc & Seton Catholic High School Chandler, AZ Y
32. 1223 East Valley Institute of Technology Mesa, AZ Y
33. 1290 "Jan's Iron Work & Chandler High School" Chandler, AZ Y
34. 1324 "NASA/Bent River Machine Shop/Phoenix Cement, Inc. & Sedona Red Rock High School" Sedona, AZ Y
35. 1343 "Desert Vista High School" Phoenix, AZ Y
36. 1401 "Universidad del Valle de M‚xico, Lomas Verdes" Naucalpan, MEX Y
37. 1456 "Intel Corporation & Basha High School" Chandler, AZ Y
38. 1492 "Microchip Technology, Inc. & Arizona Community Robotics Team" Chandler, AZ Y

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Last year we had about 1/3 of the team were girls, including our team captain. This year its not 1/3, maybe 1/4 or so. Most of the girls are on the animation team, but we have one who does alot of the electronics(and last year she did alot of machining. But she also does alot of outreach and PR), 2 working on one of our manipulator groups, including of the sub-teams leaders, and one working code and strategy. Then we have 4 or 5 on animation. We also have 5 female mentors i beleive.

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we've got maybe 4 or 5 girls on our construction team but they never come, the webmaster for our site is also a girl and she is the only one who ever shows up to meetings. its kindof sad, we would like to have more girls on the team but for some reason we can never get that many.

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Our team technically has about 5 girls out of about 25, but that last weekend before shipping, I noticed on Saturday and Sunday nights that I was the only girl there out of about 10 guys there. Which, dude, any member who wasn't there totally missed out cuz on that first trial we did with our robot, stacking 4 tetras very first time: WOOT!. One girl does our photography, another is the spirit leader, I'm not sure what the other does that shows up, but her father is very useful and the fourth doesn't show up, but she says it looks good on her college application.

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yeah iv noticed that too, not just the girls but about 60 or 65 people on our 80 member team just seem to be on the team for how it looks on apps and never actualy show up.

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It really pisses me off because then these people who don't really put in any of the work, get a lot of the benefits from the team. I mean my college application next year won't have a gpa that is nearly as high, but that's because I spend all my free time doing things. She on the other hand will be saying she does all these other things on top of keeping great grades, but really she's just working on the school aspect. Of course she's gonna have good grades when she has time to get 8, maybe even more hours of sleep. Meanwhile I spent last weekend at the robot house til 1 am and this weekend? Yea, I've spent 19 hours at school already for Drama(Stage Managing) and thats where Im leaving to go 5 mins from now. (Little Shop of Horrors play next weekend! =) and then I'll be back at the robot house. I barely even spend 8 hours away from school on the average day. I'm not complaining about the workload, cuz wow, some of the funnest times I end up having are at robot or at drama, but it's a lot of WORK, and she's just getting the credit.

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well its always about will you feel good about turning lies into colleges?

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Three on ours. There was five at the beganing of the year but as you can see we lost two.

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To be honest, i would love a few high-school girls on the team. Give a bit of balance.

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there are but not as many as everyone would like.
((sorry if i brought this thread back.)) :(

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hmm i think we got let see:

cara, steph,katelyn, himena. . ok 4 girls.. about 30 team members..
himena and cara are in shop .. steph does animation + sprit and katelyn spirit

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We have 6 "girls" on our team out of 10 students that really participate: Bailey, Leslie, Emma, Diane, Kaitlin, and Anna. We're mostly "girls" this year. We won the Detroit regional, so I guess "girls" can build robots too. Here's a mentor's point of view on our young ladies.

Bailey (senior) is a team captain. She leads the mechanical team, does our welding, helps build the robot, writes the business plan, is the drive coach, does a lot of fundraising, and generally acts like a mom for everyone.

Leslie (senior) is also a team captain. She leads the electrical team, constructs the electrical boards, organizes the team meetings, takes meeting minutes, works on fundraising, and provides much of our comic relief. She's also our arm operator.

Emma (senior) was in charge of design and pneumatics. She created the drawings and CAD models that we used to build the robot. She also installed much of the pneumatics on our robot. That was a big task this year.

Diane (senior) has historically been our lead on build and in the pit, but she's had a smaller role this year due to some personal issues.

Kaitlin (Sophomore) helps out where ever she can. She did a great job on the BOM and has taken the lead on managing the batteries in the pit. I suspect she'll be one of the leaders next year.

Anna (Freshman) is learning a lot. She has been great to have around because she puts everything she has into whatever task you give her. I think she'll take more responsibility next year and will ultimately be a leader on the team.

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Our team has traditionally had a lot of girls on it...6 year team with 2 male captains.

I do PR work sometimes, I have written award submissions and done chairman's presentations but it was more because I was able to fill that gap. I also ran scouting for two years, was an alliance captain, work on pit crew, have done two leadership positions, have done four years of mechanical and have fun pretending I know what I am doing in electronics. I think that girls with no previous experience, like any member of the team without previous experience, walk in and look for gaps to fill in the team structure. If they can find a gap to fill with inviting people all the better...or at very least a place to be. I think though that with a good training program and a welcoming team girls will randomly gravitate towards any spot.

It is hard to break down girls/guys as far as numbers on our team...we don't really categorize them that way. It is more labeled by "competent/incompetent."

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I am one of three active female members. there are maybe 32 members all together.
One, is the electrician... she's amazing, the only person on the team who can wire the robot.

the other works strictly in the machine room. She's there, constantly working on parts. she was a human player at VCU as well.

I am the Reinassance girl.
I started off by doing logistics; calling companies, making hotel reservations. Then I stepped away from the phone and computer and actually got my hands dirty with the table saw, making bosch trinkets. Now I'm a scout leader.
(I also worked on the Ackerman steering)

There are two or three others that don't come to meetings, but they'd worked on the bot during class.

I, sadly, am the only girl on my team that's going to nationals.

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On our team we have like 4 girls on the media team and 4 on the build team. on the build team the girls drill, mill, and cut parts for our robot. they do everything the guyz do and the work is equally split.

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on our team, we have one girl and she does scouting, chairman's, some PR, and anything she thinks can help... and she did help in the shop during the build season

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Team 173 rage- With 24 active students total on our team we have 8 student females. Their roles range from past team president, drive team coach, robot drivers, cheerleaders, spirit, build committee and pit crew. Girls rock so do the guys. We have grown a lot as a team dealing with the male -female thing.

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slightly less than half of our team is girls and thats pretty good for a team with 60-70 kids. I have done field construction and some pit work (not bunches though). Girls do driving. there is only one guy in the pit crew. they other three are girls. Mostly girls are in the spirit team which consists of cheerleading and going to local businesses to get giveaways for competitions. we also work on the buttons. girls work on the chairman's award. they have welded (and that was a scary sight for some of them). We basically do anything that we can.

I also spoke at a VIP luncheon at UCF BECAUSE I'm a girl. they wanted girls giong into engineering. so that was cool.

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im the only girl on our build team....and the work is not spread out even.

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Its lucky to have an all girl team, but unfortunately for some other girls, it's not their faults that they are more cheerleaders than builders. Although I personally can't complain about missing jobs because I was a girl (I helped build, computer program, and was a robot operator for all the practices and competitions), because I was a girl, I was given certain jobs. Regardless of my being a robot operator, when our coach had us interviewed and pictured for a newspaper, I was there because I was a girl and the other guy was there because he was black. We joked about it because we both did deserve to be there, but we were actually there because it made our team look well represented. We're from a southern private school. The black guy was the ONLY black guy on our team of about twenty-five (which actually is a much higher percentage than our schools ratio of black/whole pop) and I was the ONLY girl on the team that did "grunge" work like the guys. Instead of representing other members for their innovative ideas, we were picked based on looks. My coach also told me I'd be the one talking to anyone who came around the pit area to ask about our team. It was convenient because I was nearly always in the pit 'cause I put way too much in to the robot, but I was picked BECAUSE I WAS A GIRL. Granted, I liked doing PR, but it wasn't for the right reasons I was given the job.

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Just to play devils advocate and in no way trying to insult or offend you, what evidence do you have that the discussions presented above were based on race and gender as opposed to competence? Were you told or did you just make that assumption?

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Assumption on what exactly?

Did you mean on this thread over all?
This thread is called "Girls on Team".... I think that covers the gender aspect. The race was just another example of some of the unfairness of how a team can be represented....

If you meant on my team:
Otherwise, yes of course I was told I was being picked because I was a girl. I originally felt I was much too busy to be doing PR (I was on field as an operator and otherwise I was in the pit organizing our (AMAZING!!) scouts data or recalibrating the robot). It was a pretty obvious climate of separation as my coach had different "team rules" for me than the rest of the team, some understandable (its a school trip, i have to room alone and stuff as i was the only girl there- really fun spending all night alone in a hotel room until i get to spend later nights next to a girl i didnt know who snored like a whistle), but yes, i was most definitely told such things. The guys were allowed to leave the hotel, didn't have a curfew, etc because I was essentially isolated in my room where I was safe and therefore they couldnt get in trouble. As it was, my coach repeatedly took me off the tryouts list for our arm operator and put me under "PR" and "Team Spirit" because he felt I'd be more comfortable with girls. It was other members of the team that even allowed me to try out and pushed for me to get it because I was the best (at tryouts) and they knew I'd put in the practice effort.

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1 of 25, shes our organizer

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The less you treat this like an issue, the less it will be.

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i have absolutely nothing to say since im on this team, and dain (the starter of this thread), you KNOW you love me! CONGRATS ON GETTING INTO COLLEGE!

677 represent!

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Team 971 has 4 girls out of 20 members, none of whom are particularly active in the club (one is our webmaster, the rest hardly ever show up). I personally have tried to recruit more, but the only ones who are interested tend not to be able to commit the time, being in multiple AP classes AND doing sports AND working part time, etc. etc...it's really a bummer.

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This year, despite active recruiting of girls, we only have a single female student. She is picking it up very quickly after only a couple months, and it looks like she has a knack for welding and putting things together. I sincerely hope that her apparent enjoyment of the program will lead to more girls on the team... she is the first we have had on our team since our former team captain moved :(

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I agree. As long as girls make a big deal out of women engineers, the longer they will be seen as being different.

I'm a girl myself, and I'd rather be treated like "one of the guys" than seen as different.

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I agree with you. There are roughly 10 girls on the team this year out of 35... thats pretty good. Of the returning girls, most hold important roles. Some are programmers, mechanical, pneumatics, PR, and the new ones are coming in with lots of interest and enthusiasm. I think the guys on the team do view us as "one of the guys" (or at least me after 4 years of hanging around). I think that the more girls press the issue that they ARE different, they will be viewed as such. Girl or guy, you are a TEAM MEMBER nonetheless, having something valuable to contribute to the team.

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This year, even though we have 7 girls out of about 35 team members, 2 of the 3 captains are female. Too bad 4 of the 7 girls leaves at the end of this season... :(

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1/19

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we have 4 or 5 girls on our team 2 on endofecter 1 on mobility and i think 1 or 2(??) on animation(??). okay well there we go :-D

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2004:
We had five girls, all on whatever needed doing. About 15 guys.
2005:
Seven girls, with 1 mechanical, 2 spirit/publicity (the all-girl part of the team...), and four doing whatever project needed doing. Somewhere around 18 guys.
2006:
It's looking like seven girls, with 3 mechanical, 1 end affect leader, 1 publicity/awards/grants leader, 1 animation and 1 floating.
The girl/guy ratio is about the same as last year for students, but our mentors are almost all male. Lots of team moms, though!

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all boys school!

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our team has 14 members, we HAD 4 girls but one dropped out, now we have three...so one of them is the head of PR, one does the website, and the other is in proggramming...

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we have three girls including myself, one is a junior,i am a sophmore and the others a freshman... thing is... i can't touch the robot(almost killed it last year>.<) but lynn, now SHE is like mighty woman... she is a really good robot driver, and i envy her everfy so often :rolleyes: just because she is alowed to touch the robot and i'm not...

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My freshman year I was pretty much the only girl on my team. Now I'm in my senior year and there's a pretty good handful. Just appeal and support. I know I stuck with the team because I had mentors and students that were so supportive and helped me with every and anything. They never made me feel stupid or frustrated. Let the kids at your school know that robotics is engineering, but there's still a little bit of everything that needs to be done. Now I broke the status quo of my team and became the first girl team captain this year. Hell yes!

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girls on our team are prettymuch free to take on any role they'd like, if there's something they dont know, and want to learn then we teach them. its pretty open. but mostly, the girls choose to do business oriented tasks. last year, our team president was also a girl.

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we actualy had a girl as our president last year :cool:
unfortunately she graduated and is now can't participate much at all
we still have some girls on the team but they tend not to want to lead anything crucial
we are always trying to get girls involved
some choose to help out with the bot others want to do PR
as far as the cheering goes whoever is not driveing the bot becomes the cheer team.

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We are a small, 3rd year team with only about 20 people on our team. We only have 3 girls on our team but two of them are our president and vice-president and they do an awesome job :)


Robert Flanagan, team 1390, St. Cloud, Florida

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At Cyber Blue, we have a roughly 37 member team. 10 of those members are female. Two are the head students on the PR Team, 4 are on electronics, with one of them as the lead student, and 4 are in manufacturing and design.

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well here on team 1515 we have quite a few girls on our team.all though many are in business and animation we have one who has done most of our electronics and pneumatics.

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Yeah unfortunatley I am the only girl on team 104 except the teacher.I have tried to get girls to join but have been unsuccessful so far and the first year there was me and another girl.then the next year i was the only one.i showed pictures of the robots which ended up in the trash.