Re: Q&A Discuss: Girls on Teams
 

I don't think they are asking about lack of girls, but rather what girls do on co-ed teams.

Also, most blatant intentional double post ever. One post at 10:46 (pacific), the "mistake" at 10:48 with no edit tag?

Re: Q&A Discuss: Girls on Teams
 

I believe they are asking about the roles of girls on teams. Based on the responses from this thread, it seems as if girls have equal roles. However, teams that have girls in less than equal roles are less likely to respond. Someone reading this thread may think FIRST teams have no problem with equality based on the few responses.

I included information about my team (as a side note/afterthought) to decrease the amount of response bias, although it does not answer the question.

The reason for the double post. I posted the first one but forgot to include information about my team. I accidentally hit the 'quote' button instead of the 'edit' button. I added the information about my team and hit post. I then quickly saw the mistake and edited the second post. I am not sure why it doesn't say it was edited; perhaps because it was edited so quickly after it was originally posted.

Re: Q&A Discuss: Girls on Teams
 

I get that too on occasion.

On another note... HOLY ANCIENT THREAD REVIVAL, BATMAN! The original thread is from 2003.

Re: Q&A Discuss: Girls on Teams
 

I know that we have had many girls on the team over the years and our team has never had restrictions to what any person is allowed to do. This year, however, we did not have any girls on our team up until a couple of weeks ago when we gained a mentor who graduated in art and design.

When we attended the Milwaukee Regional, I saw many girls coming from so many of the teams. From what I could tell, the girls on those teams participated in almost all of the facets of the team including driving, wiring, mechanical, design, publicity, scouting, etc. This is the same as the guys that are on my team. Their skills range widely and they will find a place on our team wherever they best fit.

I sincerely hope that mentors on all teams are allowing girls to be involved in the same way the guys on the team are allowed to participate and that they aren't pushed toward a part of the competition they aren't necessarily interested in.

Re: Q&A Discuss: Girls on Teams
 

My team is small (about 12 members, 3 of which are girls), and I'm the Co-Captain and Arm Operator...plus it's my first year on the team.

Re: Q&A Discuss: Girls on Teams
 

My team is about 20-25 kids (some kids are on/off)
And only three of them are girls.
Renee is one the two team captains- She also heads chairmans, logistics, outreach and media type things
Janelle is our Animation Captain (but she's trying to be familiar with the shop).
And I'm an aprentance (sp?) welder and a help-when-needed-in-the-shop person.

So with our team, the girls kinda fall into the steriotype, but we're working to break that.

Re: Q&A Discuss: Girls on Teams
 

My team is made up of about 6 students who show up regularly and work. 2 of them are girls. 1 willingly does any job given to her. This does include tedious work on occasion, but that is far from all she does. The other 1 is completely opposite of what one might suspect from "just a girl" (I hate that phrase but it seems to be the mentality of the one who started the thread.) She is the co-captain.(the only reason she is not the captain is purely by her choice.) She does the paperwork (Once again, this is her choice. She did it her first year and decided to continue.) She is the only draftsmen on our team. As well as one of the head designers. She keeps track of the bot to make sure everything is coming along.

So, in conclusion... The girls that are hardworking are too busy to sit still and answer your questions. That is why you only found one type of girl in your survey.

Re: Q&A Discuss: Girls on Teams
 

Team 2429 has a total of two girls out of twenty or so total members. However, one of them (me!) is the main driver and the other is one of our most dedicated members. (We don't really have official positions on our team; everyone does what they can.) We're a rookie team, so all of this will be subject to change next year, hopefully.

Re: Q&A Discuss: Girls on Teams
 

On our team there is usually an equal split between girls and guys. This year about 1/3 of the team is composed of girls.

When it comes to being an officer on our team (president, vice president PR/Marketing, Vice President Manufacturing, treasurer, secretary) there is always at least one girl in one of those roles. This year I was our team's president, our Vice President of PR/Marketing was a girl, as were our treasurer and secretary.

We have also had, and continue to have females work in all three of our team's departments. This includes PR/Marketing, Manufacturing, and Animation.

Re: Q&A Discuss: Girls on Teams
 

Last year (our first year) we had 18 team members and 3 were girls. Two sort of fell into the stereotype, one more than the other. One pretty much did the awards entries, one was a mascot and scout. I didn't really want to do the paperwork and volunteered for electrical. I ended up learning inventor, building the electrical panel, riveting (not pop rivets, real rivets) our ramp, vice president, and ended up as one of the team leaders. I started off kind of shy, not really sure how to be a real leader on the team, but I feel like I have grown so much!

As a senior now, we have about 30 students on the team, and still only 3 girls (we lost one due to the time commitment and gained one new one). One is still the mascot, but does a great job and really enjoys it and tries to help out as much as she can in the shop. The new one started to follow the stereotype and did the photography and posters, but we got her to do the majority of the soldering, and I expect her to help with electrical some next year. I started to take some more leadership, as well as taking on some of the writing things. I felt that I shouldn't be afraid of fallng into this "stereotype", because a leader would help with the writing, and that's what I wanted to do. I wrote our business plan for my senior project for school and have worked with a lot of the younger students to make sure that they are ready to become leaders as this year is the first time we will be graduating any students. I taught a freshman the electronics (I actually found a useful freshman! :ahh: :yikes: ), I was the first to learn how to work our new mill, I worked very hard on our Chairman's award presentation, I served as a part of the pit crew and drive team (robocoach/field checklist person) as well as working on some fundraising, a small amount of scouting work, and a few other things as well.

Two of the girls on our team are seniors. We want more girls on our team, but our school is already about 70% male or more becuase we are a math/science/technology/aviation school and girls just don't seem as interested. We are trying to solve this problem on both the level of the school, and the team. I shy away from going up to girls and saying "just becuase you are a girl doesn't mean you can't do math and science" because if someone said that to me, I would just think they are crazy.

Deep down I think that many of us just abide by the stereotypes but deny that they are there on the outside. It's become a silent stereotype. Nobody walks around saying "you can't do that because you're a girl" anymore, but it's still there. Maybe an attitude, and it could be partially the girls' fault to. I don't know what can be done about it, but it is still there. And I wish it weren't.

It doesn't affect me or what I do, but I see it affect the girls around me. Even the other two on my team. I've talked to them about it, but I don't know how to make them understand. If you go right out and say it, to anyone, they'll just become defensive and you won't accomplish anything. It's a problem.

Re: Q&A Discuss: Girls on Teams
 

This topic is something that I get asked a lot by people that don't really understand FIRST. My team is about 30 kids and we have 8 girls. About 5 of those girls are the PR people/cheerleaders, but they're still important. The girls on our team can do anything they want as long as they put the initiative in and try. This year I'm the human player and also the team welder. I'm also learning to wire so that next year when a lot of our boys graduate, I can take over.

While I do try to learn all the building and the mechanical stuff like the boys, I try to put my "girly" spin on things too. I actually rhinestoned my human player remote and the competition team's safety glasses, which we have gotten many compliments on :)

Re: Q&A Discuss: Girls on Teams
 

Our team of 32 has 8 girls on it, each of us is heavily involved.

During this build season: five girls are on a mechanical group (prototyping and machining), two are on electrical, and one is a programmer.

Before and after build season we work in public relations, media, web design, uniforms and scouting.

At the competitions, we do cheer a lot, but girls are also involved in systems checks of our robot, and any adjustments we need to make. :)

Re: Q&A Discuss: Girls on Teams
 

Well on my team the roles the girls have are earned. However, we do feel like sometimes guys take over so we recently had an all-girls team at the Los Angeles Regional. We left our boys at home and it was awesome. Our girls got to do every single job. We got to drive the robot and we also had to fix it everytime we broke it because there was no one else who would do it for us. I had the opportunity to be on the drive team and ever since then I can't leave the position!! Even when we are with the boys!! So I recommend that every team give the chance to the girls to perform hte different jobs on a team in order for them to realize if FIRST is for them or not. :)

Re: Q&A Discuss: Girls on Teams
 

Wildstang has women in any role and has always welcomed women on the team. We have had an all women electrical crew, women on the mechanical crew and this year both driver and manipulator are women. However, if you want a real look at a great, all women team, you should contact Team 2177 The Robettes from Mendotta Heights, MN. This team was part of the finalist alliance in Minnesota and they are an awesome team. Everyone that I talked to knew tons about the robot, so inspection was really cool. Each of them is excited about the team and the drive team is engaged and knows what they want. Every team should look to the Robettes for guidance, they are an exceptional team.

Re: Q&A Discuss: Girls on Teams
 

Well, on my team, girls are as much a part of the project as any guy is. Our electrical system was almost entirely done by a girl on our team. Much of our scouting and management is done by girls, and of course, they all get their hands into the robot and build a part of it.

One of our drivers is also a girl, and if you ask her, I'd suspect that she would say that being a girl hasn't held her back at all.