Hi all! My name's David, and i'm the webmaster from Team 66. www.willowrunrobotics.com

The editor offered by our host is trellix, which doesnt allow for much html editing. If you know a good host that will accomodate both WYSIWYG and HTML let me know. Also, if anyone knows of good places in the SE Michigan area that have camps for web design let me know, im interested in learning more! Thanks a lot.

Yo people... David66 does your host have ftp capabilities? if so u can just use notepad/frontpage/Dreamweaver etc. to build the site and upload via FTP. An excelent free ftp software is smartFTP (avaible at downloads.com). Also, Frontpage and DreamWeaver have FTP capibilities built in. And by the way what do you all think about my stie/my teams site. www.circuitrunners.com We have our own host, but it redirects to the county's server b/c thats where the site was orginally at. Except, the county's server seems to be not fully functioning right now.... should be back up soon though.

Hey, I'm Albert and i'm the Webmaster (and pr, and media design, and... you get the picture) for 1072 (hrt).

I've been doing webdesign for about 6 years now, playing around with lots of different WYSIWYG programs, spending alot of time doing HTML only, and then settling on Adobe GoLive as my editor of choice. Our site is done in HTML - I haven't bothered to learn PHP and perl doesn't really lend itsself to inline scripting - though we do have a perl-powered forum which is lightly modified to meet our needs (i just put it up a couple weeks ago, so we're still breaking it in.) expected additions are a gallery and a calendar, which should be up shortly. Our programmers know linux and perl better than i do, but none of them are any good at web design, so they don't bother with it, leaving me to do all the CGI-coding/server maintainence.

ah, life on an understaffed team ;)

Good HTML editors
Adobe GoLive
Macromedia Dreamweaver

Good Webhosting
www.ehostsource.com

Good HTML help sites
www.funky-chickens.com
http://annabella.net/html.html
www.dynamicdrive.com
www.activejump.com

--Petey

more:

http://www.htmlgoodies.com
http://www.htmlclinic.com
http://www.w3schools.com

May I just add in that I use Dreamweaver MX, and it is the best editor I've seen. I really like it. Syntax highlighting, and even pop-ups that'll help you if you're blanking on a command or attribute.

It's a good program for people who can afford it.

DMX is pretty good, but it was to confusing for me. It's still way easier to use than FrontPage though.

I really didn't like dreamweaver. Our school forced us to learn it during our CS101 course. I find the interface of Adobe GoLive alot more intuitive. It also integrates with Photoshop/Imageready and Illustrator alot better.

I find notepad's interface easier!

I actually use DreamWeaver's HTML editor, and quick preview. It is a pretty much overglorified version of Notepad with an FTP upload.

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Out of personal preference, I like Adobe GoLive (not in it's most recent incarnation, but version 5) because it has a much cleaner interface, and lets you toggle modes between syntax, preview and actual object-oriented drag- and-drop coding, albeit not with the cleanest code.

I tried out Dreamweaver and found it to be very sluggish on a modern computer (the computer was a G4/500 or something like that with a gig of RAM) and it STILL was sluggish - despite beating the minimum sys requirements for that version. I also found its site management to be very counter-intuitive. I may be biased towards Golive since I've used it since version 4 (2000 or so) but I find it much more useful and elegant of a tool. Plus, it gets kudos for working hand-in-hand well with Photoshop, albeit it oughta since it's a Adobe product.

GoLive ain't cheap, but you can get an academic license, cross-platform, for $79 which will suit. It's full featured, just with the disclaimer on the splash screen about being for academic purposes. Haven't looked to see DMX's price, I personally don't ever want to look back at that product again.

'Course, there is something to be said for hand-coding code with Notepad or TextEdit/SimpleText.....

Aaron Knight
Webmaster and Videographer
Team 891: Neverending Chaos....
http://first891.topcities.com
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DWMX is in no way sluggish for me. AMD Athlon XP 2000+ 256MB PC2700 (DDR333) w/ Win XP Home SP1... Maybes its just the mac vershion or bad school comps.... The "MX" interface is much improved over other previous ones. Though I do do the inital lay out of my sites in notepad b/c I can mostly look at my code and visualize it. Plus notepad is "the bomb" and we all know it....

dreamweaver's site management is really bad, cause it keeps all your site management data (relative links, etc) in a central database. golive keeps seperate databases for each site which can be moved around and easily backed up. if you lose your dreamweaver DB, yer scrooooooed :D

My main reason for preferring Adobe GoLive is its site management tools. I got sick and tired of changing one file location or something and manually having to fix the documents linked to it one by one. GoLive's method automates the process pretty well while doing it rather elegantly. I didn't like Dreamweaver's method in the version I used. MX may be different but I don't have access to it nor do I really want access to it.

I have not tried the PC version so I have no basis to compare that version, nor do I pretend to. All I know is that pretty much all of Macromedia's mac versions that I've seen of late are pretty clunky.

Aaron Knight
Webmaster and Videographer
Team 891: Neverending Chaos....
http://first891.topcities.com

Yeah, that is a major drawback. I have lost my sites from upgrading, and re-installation. But it only takes a few minutes to set up my sites when it did happen.

That has been changed in the newer version MX. Now it takes a few seconds to look for all the pages that are changed, and fixes them if you want to.

I think we have copies of Adobe GoLive on some of the computers in the Lab I'm currently in. I'll go and check it out, as I've never used it before.

I guess HTML-kit doesn't have any fans here?

Its a super duper text-editor with syntax coloring, quick preview (just hit f12!), rich-hint (forget a property? just hit space. it even explains what it does, what values are acceptable, and if you're that kind of person, what versions of (X)HTML it is applicable for...) and enough plugins that if it doesn't come with a feature you want, there is a plugin that'll do it.

Only downside is that it has so much stuff that sometimes you can't remember how to use it. (It took me like 10 minutes of searching the preferences to get wordwrap turned on again.)