Human Player "Accuracy"
 

So, I was thinking about my human player performance over the season, and I decided to figure out my "accuracy" for the season. Out of 42 matches played, I successfully stacked the intended number of bins 41 times, for an accuracy rating of 97.6%. Impressive, eh? Any other human players care to post their "ratings"? If you have any stories about your matches, feel free to post those, too...

Of the matches I HP'd, i dont recall ever failing to stack the desired stack or formation, though I did knock my safety glasses free of my face at the beginning of one match(I recovered them and made it back though :) ) I guess that gives me a 100% then :D

I think I messed up only in one match, the evil match. But I will say 2, so I don't sound conceited and can't honestly remember. So lettme see that is 18 outta 20 (we only went to Central Fl Reg's, and Nat's) So that is 90% of the time.


My HP experiences, well, lets see, minus the fall of the feild in the one evil match, that was interesting, but I got our auto working ont hat match, so I guess it wouldn't count as a mess up? I dunno. And well, stragedizing in HP is fun, like at CFR when we offset Pink's auto, and it ended up helping us numeously...whee, I don't remember any stories...to much pain form being HP, I cut a giant slit in the top of my hand at Nat's from the broke Boxes, that stunk....::place box, sting, walk sting, sting sting, whine, sting::

roughly 52 for 52 in returns to the touchpad in 10 sec 100%

51 for 52 in successful bin stacks 98%

The one I missed I knocked my top bin off on my way back to the touch pad...and got penalized. This occured in the finals match one of the midwest regional..

Accomplisments

Stack of 8 (practice match)
Many runs of more than half of field for bin position
One run to the opposite gate to put 2 by partners gate and returned in 8 seconds.

Made it from midfield to touch pad on time when middle clock said 8 seconds ;) close, but I made it :p

I never messed up stacking in competition (only one time in practice match when we were trying to get a stack seven high) so would that make me 100% or not?

Never messed up. Though half the time I WASN'T supposed to get back in time, but that was what I was trying to do, so yah.

But second match at nationals, I stacked two and miscalculated the distance to the ground so I smashed my bottom lip between the bin and my top teeth twice (the bins and my head both bounced a little)... And then my lip bled a lot during the match that was interesting. (Speaking of injuries, the robot also hit me coming down the ramp and I got a 3~4 inch cut that I didn't notice for 5 hours. :D)

So if you're going strictly by "back in time" i'm at like, 50%. If you're talking "doing what I was supposed to do", 100%.

our hp,, uriah , is real good, out of the pre dhip event we held, the three regionals we attened, and nats, he never ever dropped a bin, never ever got a penalty, and always made it back in under 8 seconds (unless instructed to deactivate autonomous which was only once). he even corrected our alliance's stacks... wow what an accomplishment... props to the best darn human player in the land... im my opinoin anyways... GO URIAH!!!

Well, I never was human player (0 tries) and I had no success (0)... so is my average 100% or undefined?

(I'm bored)

as much as i <3ed the teams on curie, i think the best human players was a coin toss between our human Player Mike (not me) and DJ on 45, if there was a hp competition one of those 2 would definatly win it strickly on how much they owned at the game

Well ... by english class it seems you just shouldn't post your rating at all, but by math class I'd say your accuracy is undefined. I suppose the optimist would try to argue 100% though :)

Stephen

PS. Of course, it depends on the technical definition of "human player accuracy." Although, I think the adjective pretty much assumes you actually WERE a human player :rolleyes:

Hmm... in two regionals, my accuracy with stacking and placing bins was perfect. I also got back at the intended time every time. As for Championships, I had the same record up until the final match for 188 in the Curie Quarterfinals, wherein a strange strategy was implemented to stack six. After running over to stack two of them, I ran back and I had to sort of drop a bin on top of another that was out of my way (strategically placed in front of the lexan) to get back in time. I did, but I took an annoying (if meaningless) penalty, because it fell off the bin it was on. I still got back in time though. So I'm close to perfect. They never let me stack eight though, which annoyed me immensely. I could do it and get back in six seconds in practice. :rolleyes:

Team 61 Human player stack 8 high 7 out of 10 times
missed once and only got 5 high due to the other human player. and twice only put 4 bins out do to the game itself.

I like to see how many people can stack 8 high and get back in 8 seconds.

our ceiling was barely tall enough to get the 8 in.. hahah..i think we tried more than that and it just ended up tipping anyways..

but jon is the perfect height and build for this years human player

"E-DAWG, E-DAWG, E-DAWG..."
 

100% on returns to the pad in time
100% penalty free

After three regionals where we made it to the quarters, semis, then finals and then the Championship and Curie finals I can safely say no one stacks like the E-DAWG

I guess I should've added my story... I went 38 straight matches without a mistake, and on the first Archimedes quarterfinal, I dropped my 4-stack as I brought it on the field. The aftermath of that was bizzare, because the field controllers accidentally disabled 47's bot instead of ours, and it was a mess. Fortunately, we both came back in human mode, kept the score down, came back, and won the series. It made me feel really stupid, though, to make my one mistake of the season in such a crucial match.

I can safely say that the team 111 human player was 100% accurate during matches. Not to brag, but he was very fast and surprised our team as well as others in his agility and stability. I'm also proud to say that I trained him. :D

He was pretty good. I played 3 matches with him, and the two of us successfully managed to build a stack of 6 each time.

My 3 all time three year human player record is 100%.... 1 for 1 at the PARC last year. I'm very proud of that accomplishment..haha. The 2 human players we had this year were both very good. Although I think last year's game was a bit more exciting for them.

I was almost perfect. Only one penalty. I placed a three stack too close to the grey zone. It doesn't matter because it got knocked over anyways. Wildstang HP may have been perfect but its autonomous wasn't. It is always nice to turn it on. Oh well, we won anyway. That was a great match working with 111 and against 469.

I guess you never heard what happened.

Before each match our driver locks in our autonomous mode. We had a lock-in sequence on our autonomous for safety reasons because our bot would just all of a sudden take off driving. We lock-in by holding the buttons on one joystick while switching into user mode on the OI. While the OI stays in usermode, and the joysticks remain untouched autonomous mode is allowed to run on our robot.

In the case of the match that you are speaking of, our driver had gone through the autonomous enabling sequence and was then talking to one of the other members of the drive team. While he was doing this, an IF person can over thinking we were having radio problems and hit the select button on the OI which swapped it out of user mode and cancelled our autonomous mode for the match. So, it was not a matter of us not turning it on. In this case it was a problem with someone turning it off. NO matter though because we did manage to win that match.

Umm... I don't want to know what my human player accuracy was.... lol.

:D

Well... you didn't play in any qualifying/elimination rounds did you?

I know you were in some practice ones when we were sizing up the potential players.

Not including practice rounds, I think the only time I screwed up was at nats when I had to do a stack by the bar and a stack in the middle and I didn't quite make it back in time. I had never practiced it though, so I think it's ok;) And to add a little bit of humor...I am only 4 bins high...so at Cleveland the announcer always had to peek around the stack to make sure there was someone there...small but mighty!! :D

Stacking 100%
Getting back in time 100%

This may be because I didnt stack anything over 3 :D .

Accomplishments:
I have knocked off every single dead reckoner'd auto mode except for one robot (930).

Well, there WAS a human player competition at the IRI, with 25 and 45 in attendance, and Uriah won!

Thanks Team 111 for putting that together, and thanks to all the people who signed the Best Human Player bin that Uriah received - that's one of the neatest things I think a FIRST kid could win.

lol yea the human player competition was awesome... even though that day was the first time I'd ever started HP-ing, and I dropped 2 bins in my stack of 3, it was a blast. Maybe we can do something like this next year but bigger, like using 2 people or something?

The Human Player competition was a great idea but my only complaint about it is that it really had nothing to do with the game, basically the competition was a violation of the normal FIRST Human Player rules. I commend the work that the Wildstang Engineers did and am very grateful for the competition, but next year if they do something like that, the rules of the normal game should be upheld so it can truely prove who is the best.

My change I would have made to the game is that instead of putting the bins in the gray areas, put them against the walls of the scoring areas. Your close side be the 1 point and the far wall be the 4 points. That would have truely made the game better

I'm curious what the HP game used at IRI was?

We also had a HP contest at BattleCry, and it went quite well. Details on our contest are here: (scroll ALL the way to the bottom) http://www.wpi.edu/News/Events/BattleCry/tactical.html

I also have pictures and video if anyone is interested....

Basically, each HP was given 8 bins (2 stacks of 4) in the normal HP bin location. They were given 10 seconds to place bins in either of the robot starting areas. Bins in the far robot starting area were worth 4 points each, and bins in the near starting area were worth 1 point each. The number of bins in the tallest stack in either zone was used to multiply the score. Also, all bins had to be upright and completely contained in the grey starting zone. If the HP was not back within the 10 seconds, the bin points counted, but they were not given the multiplier.

This was all put together at the very last minute so we didn't have a lot of time to come up with the game. We tried to have a game that gave the opportunity to use a little strategy other than just building a big stack. Hopefully most people enjoyed it. Under the circumstances I think it went pretty well.

I definitely understand your interest in having it mimick the real game as much as possible, but do you think that this change you suggested above would have really changed the game? The only thing that I can see that would have been different with this was that you'd have to take 1 or 2 steps less to get to the opposite side.

You are absolutely right and there is so much that could be done with it that we could debate on for years about. Its a great concept and a great idea, but respectfully speaking as a human players and commenting for a few human players I have spoken to, keeping it game legal does make more of a difference then "1 or 2 less steps." Human players aren't sent out during the regular game to do score in the gray (well because its illegal :p), so why should they play a game where they go out there and break the rules of the regular game? What does that prove? Again I enjoyed playing the game and congradulations to all the finalists and winners, you guys deserved it.

Didn't he win that sweet signed bin full of munchies at IRI for winning that human player contest?

This quite honestly is a little silly considering the human player role in this years game. Now last years game, thats where we talk human player accuarcy not only in distance shots but overall scoring percentage....the guy we had on the BBS was incredible he would get 8 or 9 of his balls every game, I never saw anyone else come close at any regional or nats.

It is a little silly... but there is a small bit of accuracy that comes into play. Mainly in regards to the number of flags received, etc. You'd be surprised how many mistakes people make as HP... sometimes without noticing. I flagged at least 10 people for HP violations at IRI, including 4 DQs.

i wasnt the human player so i cant say what my accuracy was, however our human player was excellent. i dont think she messed up at all and she always got back in time.