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Austin 04-27-2003 04:15 PM

To All:
The AKA field is up on your profile...so you have no excuse for not using this feature, that brandon most graciously added for us, for putting your real name...or at least real first name...so that we can all know you a little better and know who to ask for at competition...and you even get to keep your 'custom user name!' :D

Ashley Weed 04-27-2003 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Austin
To All:
The AKA field is up on your profile...so you have no excuse for not using this feature, that brandon most graciously added for us, for putting your real name...or at least real first name...so that we can all know you a little better and know who to ask for at competition...and you even get to keep your 'custom user name!' :D



DONE! :D

Ryan Dognaux 04-27-2003 07:16 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Real names, please
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ben Mitchell
To be honest, the team 000 is irritating. There are NOT 326 volunteers that are registered for this forum. Do a simple search of 000 members, and their posts. You'll see 000 members asking about drivers, asking for info, adding their piece in discussions: members that are CLEARLY on a team, but pretend they are not, abusing a feature designed to help people not on a team.

Hell, if I wanted to be mean, I could start posting names right now.

You're right, there aren't 326 people registered under 0000, there are 265. Did you even do a search??.. cause I did. Your posts kind of came off as an attack towards people with the numbers 0000 for their team number. It wouldn't surprise me if there were that many volunteers... don't you know how many people are actually invovled in FIRST? Unless you have precise evidence supporting your claims, this is one FIRST-er you aren't convincing. :rolleyes:

dez250 04-27-2003 09:29 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Real names, please
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ryan Dognaux
Your posts kind of came off as an attack towards people with the numbers 0000 for their team number. It wouldn't surprise me if there were that many volunteers... don't you know how many people are actually invovled in FIRST? Unless you have precise evidence supporting your claims, this is one FIRST-er you aren't convincing. :rolleyes:
I am not trying to get this thread as a flame war like other posts have turned into, but what i want to say is ryan is correct that it takes a ton of people to do even a regional, i think there were over 100 volunteers at the utc regional, it doesnt look like many there but a lot of people do behind the scenes work. And there were over 20 regionals this year plus the nationals. There are a lot more then you would think volunteers that work for FIRST at events and other things. Again im nottrying to sound sarcastic or mean, but its the truth, you should actually sometimes take a step back, look at the true numbers and then talk.

~Mike

BandChick 04-27-2003 09:31 PM

Alright, here's the deal, Andy Baker makes a good point, but what about all us with the common names. For example, I'm Sara...and there are a million Sara's out there. For me, if you went over to my pit and said "who's bandchick" (even if there were another girl) they would know exactly who you were talking about. It's how I've been defined for years now, so I will stick with the bandchick because it's easier, and it's who I am. Call me Sara, call me bandchick, call me girl, hell, you could call me Megan (right keith?). I don't see the need to change my username to be easier for everyone else. If you want to know who I am, if you want to meet me, I think you could take the time to find out.

--Sara Reffler--
(the bandchick of the bunch)

Carlo 04-28-2003 03:52 PM

Good point...
 
as usual a good point made by Andy Baker.

My name is Carlo, it just shows how original I am with screen names. If anyone else finds a Carlo on Chief Delphi, I will gladly put my last name in my signature, but through my whole life I have met very few Carlo's beings it is an Italian name which got changed to Charles when people came to America.

There's a history lesson for the day on my name, so no it is not Carlos mispelled.

Ben Mitchell 04-28-2003 03:55 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Real names, please
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ryan Dognaux
You're right, there aren't 326 people registered under 0000, there are 265. Did you even do a search??.. cause I did. Your posts kind of came off as an attack towards people with the numbers 0000 for their team number. It wouldn't surprise me if there were that many volunteers... don't you know how many people are actually invovled in FIRST? Unless you have precise evidence supporting your claims, this is one FIRST-er you aren't convincing. :rolleyes:
!!!!****>>>>>0000 - FIRST / Other 327<<<<<****!!!!
0001 - Juggernauts 7
0002 - 4
0003 - 5
0005 - RoboCards 15
0006 - ATK (Alliant Techsystems) & Hopkins High School 10
0007 - Parkville Knights 10
0008 - Palo Alto High School 2
0009 - Arial Foundation & Roosevelt High School 2
0011 - MORT 14
0016 - Baxter Bomb Squad 24
0019 - Mercedes-Benz of Greenwich/Beta Shim Co & Greenwich High School 9
0021 - ComBBAT 19
0022 - Boeing Rocketdyne/Kleiner, Perkins, Caufield & Byers/FADAL Engineering & Chatsworth HS 2
etc, etc...

Look under teams at the top of this page, right above the forum/thread link.

It's actually up to 327 right now. I have no idea where you came up with your number. Go figure. :rolleyes:

And i did do research. I searched for posts by team members of 000. Quite a few of them give themselves away as being on a team.

Here are some nice quotes: (leaving names out to protect the user, of course.

Someone's profile:
"Team# 0000
Location: Anytown, USA
Team Role: Team Captain "
^^^Oh yes, "he is not on a FIRST team, he is a volunteer"...NOT.

Quote from a post: "We are a second-year team and are considering this approach due to time constraints. Any suggestions on how get this assembly aligned with our drive shaft?"

Also, on a team: stating it him/her self. Another abuser of team #000.

Quote from a post about how teams pick drivers: "Our team this year is trying simon sez, the thought behind this is that anybody can drive a robot good with enough practice, and if the driver can listen to mentor and other team it is all for the better."

Also, on a team.


Another quote from a post: "We are wondering if we can add weight to counterbalance another component of our robot. We know that we cannot add "dead weight" to make our robot stronger but are not sure if we can add weight to counterbalance another component. "

Also, clearly on a team - who else would ask such a question, and who else would have a robot?

Another quote from a post: "We are having trouble with where we are supposed to hook up the power for the light. This is the only thing that is keeping us from having a fully operational light. Thank you very much"

Oh yes, FIRST staffers *really* need to know how to wire a light.

Once more, clearly on a team.

Quote: "Just how are you supposed to hook up the controller to a computer, for programming? I couldn't find anything that said exactly what port it was. I believe its 'Dashboard', but i just want to be sure... don't want to fry a 3000$ piece of equipment. :P"

Once again, clearly on a team. No one else would be asking such a question.

Quote: "I wonder? Is all there text computer made and text book tests. Are what we learning in school generated garbage from some people sitting there writing bs textbooks. How do we know if teachers arent part of this big brainwashing scandal to turn kids into stupid zombies. What can you really prove. Are the text books made by aliens?!? We could be getting stupid by alien textbooks. And really aliens eat stupid peoples brains!"

This guy actually has his team location and references to another team IN HIS SIG. Another clear case of someone being on a team. (He also got himself banned, so he clearly isn't too sharp on the uptake.)

Quote: "Actually our team is using a cannon to launch the boxes across the arena. It's still a little inacurate but were in the process of rifling the barrell."

Another reference to a team. Hardly a team #000 FIRST volunteer. :rolleyes:

Quote from a profile:

"Team Name rookie team in 2003
Team# 0000
Location Los Angeles
Team Role Student "

A student on rookie team #000 - right. Of course.:rolleyes:

************
And THAT was just the blatant ones in the first three pages of the Team #000 list. There are nine pages total.

Before flaming me, get your facts straight. There are many users that claim to be on team #000, that instead use team #000 to mask their identity.

Oh, and just a little point: I am not being disrespectful to those who are using the team #000 as it was inteneded. That is who it was designed for.

What gets me angry is those who are abusing it.

My question: Are these people so ashamed of themselves and/or their teams, that they feel the need to hide behind usernames and lies. Putting yourself on a team #000, designed for those not on a team, while atually being on a team, is a blatant LIE. I cannot and will not trust or respect those who seek to hide themselves from thier team, and lie to the rest of the people on these message boards. There is NO reason for people to hide behind false teams: I consider it no different than people using another team's team number, while they really are on a different team. It's wrong, and it should be discouraged.

I took me 10 minutes of detective work to figure this stuff out, btw. A little bit of research...

Brandon Martus 04-28-2003 04:01 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Real names, please
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ben Mitchell
It's actually up to 327 right now. I have no idea where you came up with your number. Go figure. :rolleyes:
His number is found when you click the 'members' button to view members of team 0000. I think the 327 is correct, I have to fix the list.

I suppose I could make '0000' reserved and the only way to have '0000' would be to message me. This way they are filtered and those that are trying to hide will be forced to either a) enter a real team number... b) enter a fake team number ... c) enter some designated 'not on a team, hiding' number (9999?, -1, etc)

Ben Mitchell 04-28-2003 04:24 PM

That would be a good idea Brandon - though it would make more work for you. :(

I don't mean to be a militant nutcase in this thread - it's just something that bugs me: people abusing a system designed to do good. :mad:

Ryan Dognaux 04-28-2003 06:15 PM

First I'd like to apologize, I went to users and did an advanced search under team numbers.. it gave me that number, but I found what you were talking about. So, I admit I was wrong on that number thing...

Anyways, my point is, people have the right to choose what they want their number to be, whether to remain annonomous or side with a team. I mean , even if it was changed so Brandon had to set it to 0000, people could still just PM him and ask him to do it anyways.... I dunno, I don't really care.. it's just a number.

I'm here for the content people add to their posts... :D

Mike Schroeder 04-28-2003 06:25 PM

do you think that maybe people on these boards might be offended by what people say? and maybe some people take what one person says and automaticlly assume its "the teams" Beliefs, this way they protect their teams from one person actions, and another thing, i would like to know when this person :
Quote:

"Team Name rookie team in 2003
Team# 0000
Location Los Angeles
Team Role Student "

A student on rookie team #000 - right. Of course.
Joined, cause if you didnt look and that ( i dont know if you did or not) maybe he was working on starting a team, and joined the forums before hand, and he/she forgot to change it back again. some people are just forgettful ;)

*Throws His 2 cents into the pot and walks away *

Alexander McGee 04-28-2003 08:08 PM

Magnasmific
 
Well, i use magnasmific for just about everything i have; yahoo ID, AIM, MSN, ECT. So i just used this out of habit. Ill change my signature so that it says my real name, which happens to be

Alexander Steven McGee.

YEAH!

Anyways, magnasmific is my company name too. I have DBA for webdesign. Like i said before, it's just habit.

PEACE

Ben Mitchell 04-29-2003 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by "Big Mike"
do you think that maybe people on these boards might be offended by what people say? and maybe some people take what one person says and automaticlly assume its "the teams" Beliefs, this way they protect their teams from one person actions,
If people are offended by what someone says, they have no business posting here.

I believe that people have a responsibility to their team, and the rest of the community here, to take responsibility for their own words/actions, and not blatantly lie by assuming a team number that was intended, if have the authority to say so, to serve as a place marker for those not currently on a team, but still involved with FIRST.

Those who take a team number 000 are lying: pure and simple. If I cannot take responsibility for my own posts, and my posts would bring shame to my team: I have no business posting here. The point of this forum is that we represent our teams, but we do not speak for our teams. I may represent 303 on these boards, but my opinions do not nessasarily coincide with those of my teammates. My teammates and I disagree constantly.

I'm sure I've made people upset on these forums. I'm sure people have become angry over the subject of some of my posts. But I'm not afraid to give my team number, sponser, and my teams web site. I even give people my SN and email.

No one should need to hide their team identity on these forums.

Al Skierkiewicz 04-30-2003 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ben Mitchell

Those who take a team number 000 are ...
No one should need to hide their team identity on these forums.

I remember a time long ago, as a newbie to this board, my reluctance to jump in and post. I had been reading the board for a long time but was just intimidated by all the others who posted regularly and seemed to have a working knowledge of the topic. I wouldn't be too hard on those who do not wish to become public, yet. Let them get their feet wet and be comfortable in the group and feel accepted before they proudly sign name and team.
We are not looking to place blame for anything here, I just like meeting people face to face and knowing that I address them as Clark or D.J. or Andy and not ***whatsacoolname***. It's hard to reply Dear ***whatsacoolname*** and sound knowledgeable and sincere.

Jeff Waegelin 04-30-2003 12:18 PM

It's always nice to be able to go up to someone like Raul, or Andy Baker, or D.J. Fluck, and just say... Hi, I'm Jeff Waegelin... and be recognized (or even be recognized from my Who Am I pic). If I used some of my oddball online names, that would be a lot harder to do. It just seems like a more personal connection when you know someone's real name. They can be more like a friend, even if you've never seen them in person.


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