Re: Webservers
 

A) Wipe your hard disk
B) Installc FreeBSD
C) Marvel at the effervescent power of two tone command line happiness.

--Petey

Re: Re: Webservers
 

I would like to state that before, anyone else says to install a server o/s like freebsd, or unix, I am not allowed to. This is not my computer, and my parents won't let me install Linux even, which is why I'm screwed on this webserver issue.

pfffft get win 2k3 web server....woohoo iis 6.0 & .NET!!!

win 2k3 server... that would be total ownage.... If u have DSL / cable note ... ur IP address is probally dynamic. which mean everytime you turn your comp off u get new ip address... I just use my apache for testing new site layouts, as a DL mirror for WHSGG, and holding school projects incase one of our schools comps desides the floppy or zip disk is corrupted .... which happens 2x a semister.
NOTE: Also dont try apache on winME my friend did and nada happened.
NOTE2: You may have to set your router to enable http server. Which may be under virtural server settings or something with the word server in it.... It varies from router to router.....

As of now, it's "Forbidden" meaning you don't have a DirectoryIndex:
replace index.html with whatever you want (i.e. main.html or start.html

Keep in mind that for [u]EVERY[/i] directory you need that file in it or you will get either Forbidden or the Folder Contents.

To give open access (Which will show Folder Contents to folders without an DirectoryIndex file):
If I'm not mistaken:
is the default value.
Remove the + so that it now reads:
This will allow directory browsing for folders without the DirectoryIndex

Ok, I did what gadget suggested, and it should work now. so please test it here I hope it works atleast soon.

To anyone following this thread: He and I got it working, his problem was:

<Directory ...>
...
Order allow,deny
Allow from 69.14.54.153
# Allow from localhost 127.0.0.1
</Directory>
(...'s for protection) needed to be:

<Directory ...>
...
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
# Allow from localhost 127.0.0.1
</Directory>

He was allowing only his own IP to see what was on the server, and an implicit deny statement was after it. Now he went from:
Order allow,deny
Allow from 69.14.54.153
deny from all

to:
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
Deny from all

I would like to thank anyone who even gave me an idea.

I have another request of information:

I would like to host http://www.robocards.org on my computer (since I finally got apache running). How would I go about doing that?

Re: Re: Re: Webservers
 

Ok.
I understand your predicament, because I have parents who strictly control my computer usage as well.

However, you NEED to talk to your parents about this. Hosting a web server on Windows is like hiring Michael Jackson to be your baby sitter--it's just not the right thing for the job.

Windows is good for some things. However, Web Serving is not one of those.

Take it from me--I work at an ISP doing tech support and computer repairs. Now, I am not a server god. I run my own server, but I know I'm not as knowledgeable as some other people on this forum. But my boss has been with computers since they were invented--he's one of the guys from the original BSD project, I believe--I'm sure that people like Brandon Martus will back me up when I say not to put Windows on your server.

Windows lacks the stability of Unix and it's multi-threading ability. Multithread means that it can do more than one thing at once--with Windows, you don't actually do more than one thing at once. Though it may appear that you are running 5 programs simultaneously, it is not so. Your programs are actually cycling between each other very quickly. Thus, if one freezes, chances are all of them will freeze around this "roadblock" of a sorts.

Unix, with the "top" command, allows you to control separate programs at once, and "kill" them without affecting the other.

Furthermore, I've read reports that when Windows is left running for more than a certain period of time--I want to say 29 days, but I wouldn't swear to it--performance is affected greatly. You begin to experience greater disk fragmentation and there are some freaky things that go on with RAM.

By contrast, there are machines at my job that have been running for a year straight--no restarts, no crashes--using FreeBSD. If they are restarted, it's to upgrade them to the newest version of FreeBSD.

Yes, you can put SQL, Apache, and PHP on windows. However, I believe that you will find it is much, much more trouble than it is worth.

I'll see if I can dig up some reports on actual, documented problems with Windows webserving.

--Petey

I've already attempted the talking part. Sooner or later my mom's gonna wipe out the system anyway.

I've been wanting Linux and/or Unix for a while, just for the server reason.

I assume you have a static IP on your computer. If not, go to www.zoneedit.com and set up an account with them.

1)Depending on whether or not you plan to host more than one website on your computer, will may or may not want to set up virtual hosts. Virtual hosts allow you to serve several sites off your one computer, usually on the same IP address.

Assuming you have virtual hosts enabled, access either A) httpd.conf or B) vhosts.conf. I don't know your system architecture or how your version of apache works.

You should find a document that says something along the lines of this:
Once again, configuration will differ depending on how your machine is configured. What you're going to need to do, however, is configure your apache file so that when someone asks for www.robocards.org on your site they are directed to the root folder of robocards, the one where everything is hosted in.

Here's a sample from my server: [quote]
<VirtualHost *>
ServerAdmin admin@peteyproductions.net
DocumentRoot /usr/home/peteyproductions
ServerName peteyproductions.net
ErrorLog logs/peteyproductions.net-error_log
CustomLog /usr/logs/peteyproductions.net-access_log combined
</VirtualHost>

This will send people inquiring for http://peteyproductions.net and peteyproductions.net to the appropriate home folder.

I found that I needed to make a separate vhosts entry for www.peteyproductions.net. I don't know why, and you may not have the same problem. All you can do is test.

2) Access your domain name registrar. Right now, your website's DNS should be pointed to the IP address of whoever you are hosted with. You'll want to switch this over to your IP address, whether static or dynamic. If the latter, you'll have to use www.zoneedit.com. They give you a free five years of use for one domain name. Basically, you download a program from them that tracks your computer and constantly checks your IP address. When someone asks for www.robocards.org, the request goes to your registrar. They send the person to whatever IP address you have entered as your hosting IP address on your DNS panel.

If you have a static address, you have no problem. However, a dynamic address constantly changes. Thus, you can see the problem--if you're address changes, then some days a person asking for robocards.org will be sent to a random IP address.

Once you sign up for zoneedit, you will add them into the equation. Instead of your visitor going request-->registrar-->webhost, they will go request-->registrar-->zoneedit-->webhost. That extra step allows zoneedit to continually be checking your IP address continually be updating the IP address to which it sends requests.

You can check your IP address at www.whatismyip.com.

Hope that helps. But before you start, you need to convince your parents to allow you to change your server to Unix.

--Petey

Is this your personal computer? I could understand the fear on the part of your parents if it's the computer you're going to be spending most of your time on and they don't know how to use it.

You can buy another computer for a server. FreeBSD will run on any x86 computer and NetBSD will run on ANYTHING AT ALL.

Actually, you could probably pick up a serving capable computer at an antique shop or a local dump before the next rain. A friend of mine bought 10 old NetBSD compatible macs for $240 the other day. You could get a serving capable computer for well under 100 bucks.

--Petey

Re: Re: Re: Re: Webservers
 

problem is with php not with the server OS itself, for me.....php is just not on the same plane as .NET...plain and simple

Yes there may be a slight difference in performance, but not enough to notice a major difference. I just can't turn my back on the 16,000 classes that .NET has to work with, and more to come. I think you make a big mistake by overlooking the .NET Framework.....

That'll never work, I've attempted this numerous times.

Yea, it's basically a PC. If I got Linux, I was gonna get the dual-boot version.

This comp. is the only one with internet access, and the other one, I can't even get to.

I hate using anything involving Microsoft. Please tell me the big mistake.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Webservers
 

When we used to use NT Server machines at work, they had to be rebooted nightly. Our FreeBSD & Linux servers now get rebooted for service only, not for guaranteed next-day performance.