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Originally posted by Stephen Kowski
just to clear up any misconception ASP and ASP.NET are two COMPLETELY different things....the fact that they interact with server components and a similar style of language (assuming u don't use C#). ASP is a scripting language(much like PHP), but the ASP.NET technology is a completely object oriented language.

Comunities? wow ok.... www.codeproject.com www.aspalliance.com www.gotdotnet.com I could keep going but i have other things I need to be doing.....I have tried PHP (successfully I might add) and ASP along with the new .NET technologies....you're pages load faster due to precompiled code, controls have the ability to autopostback to the same page seemlessly, etc etc....there are so many advantages to .NET i can only begin to name them....With Server 2003 it is disgusting how powerful .NET is.

For you ppl that like C++....is php better? hahaha that's funny because Microsoft has released both Visual C++.NET and C#.....now what is easier for a c++ developer staying in the existing language or having to learn a derivative like Pearl....?

P.S. for all you M$ haters out there is the mono project to bring the .NET Framework to Linux (so someone in that community seems to believe in it...)

Isn't hating M$ just a persons opinion? I don't think it should reflect on how well M$ is doing, or if some guy is making a conversion of .NET Framework to the Linux O/S. I personally like PHP over ASP mainly because of the simplexity. In php, u don't have to create objects to open file, you just using something like fopen("hi.txt"); (I'm not sure if that's correct, but I'm just making a point).

Technically, PHP isn't dependent on a particular language either. I mean, uou could write a bytecode compiler that'd parse C or whatever you wanted. What is actually executed is the bytecode anyway. But whats the point? ;)

As to speed, PHP is disgustingly fast EVEN THOUGH its uncompiled. When you parse a 5 megabyte file, and then run several thousand MySQL queries in under 7 seconds, I don't think I'm going to worry all that much about losing performance because its uncompiled.

As to the lack of community. I guess I was wrong. Maybe the forums I frequent just have more helpful PHP people. Umm, but at the same time, my experience is alot of ASP scripts cost money, whereas PHP has a rather large number of freeware scripts. Just what I have seen though.

Coming into this discussion, does anyone know a good way to learn PHP? Email me at lmachadoiv@inspirationinc.org or post here, thanks.

get your hands dirty. php.net (the official php site) has a disturbingly detailed manual. get to know it.

also, i suggest looking at other people's code. and also maybe learning some basic programming if you haven't already. outside of that, a simple google search for php tutorials should get you quite a few good tutorials.

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Originally posted by HFWang
get your hands dirty. php.net (the official php site) has a disturbingly detailed manual. get to know it.

also, i suggest looking at other people's code. and also maybe learning some basic programming if you haven't already. outside of that, a simple google search for php tutorials should get you quite a few good tutorials.

http://www.hotscripts.com (I think it is) has a lot of open-source and pay-to-use scripts for a vary of languages.

Learn a lil' of C/C++ and JavaScript if you wish, PHP is like those to combined IMHO.

Sticking up for ASP.NET

Alright,

I have to stickup for ASP.NET. I got involved with for my senior software project and basically I became a believer. My background includes a lot of VB, there for using ASP.NET (even more so than ASP) allowed me to leverage my existing knowledge base in VB and create very rich web applications. This was a huge plus of ASP.NET for me. I've since picked up C# and now frequently finding myself switching back and forth between the two which is a big plus of .NET it doesn't matter what you write it in you can even use a Java-like language heck there are even perl.NET implementations.

Another big advantage of .NET is the ability to create rich multi-page, applications with your own user controls, code behind, etc. As I did with my project, or as I've done on my website very simple single page only .aspx pages. Also .NET lets you leverage existing web technology for example applying a style sheet to the rich .NET Web Controls. .NET has been really easy for me to pickup and it doesn't require anything more than two free downloads to get started so it is free as well. The Framework, IIS (comes with windows), and WebMatrix (asp.net) are all you need.

If you are looking for hosting I use www.discountasp.net they offer every ASP/.NET related service possible including the ability to publish directly from VS.NET something lacking at most other .NET hosts. It costs $90/yr and I like that because you only have to think about the payment once a year and not worry about it the rest so that comes out to what about 7.50 a month which is really good for all the features they offer.

So Go ASP.NET ;-)

-Justin

AffinityHosting.net is also pretty good (not sure if they Support .NET...but tech support is speedy......:|)

bleh. heathen savage. :D