Order of the Phoenix - Harry Potter
 

Anyhoo, just finished reading the book after getting it at 12am this morning. My overall opinion was that it was a good book but the series isn't getting to innovative. There are many good plot twists and such but somewhat expected after having read 4 fairly long books of life of a wizard boy. Anyhoo, I'll post up my review of it since I have to write one for the school newspaper.

.. You've finished it ALREADY Yan????

I'm on page 8 or something... it might take me awhile to finish :D It's tedious looking at.. 900 pages?!

The Harry Potter craze is good because it discovered Daniel Radcliffe....

A copy just arrived at my house today... I guess my parents ordered it. I think my brother will read it and then I might if I get bored enough :p

Cory

I just finished it tonight, as well. I was *very* satisfied. And I can't wait for number 6!!

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Alright, a couple of you have gotten all the way through.

I've never been a Harry Potter fan, although I have seen both of the movies. I've never read any of the books - they just don't appeal to me - but I am dying to know who is killed off. Can one of you PM and tell me?

Thanks much. I <3 spoilers. :)

"Did you hear that the Harry Potter author (whatever her name is...) cried that she killed off one of the characters? Yeah in a related story, Hillary Clinton cried because one of the characters in her book wasn't killed off..." :D Conan O'Brien

I've never been a Harry Potter fan either, I haven't seen the movies, read the books or anything. I don't understand why it appeals to people. But hey thats just me.

im reading the book right now. im almost on page 300. i absolutely love harry potter and i waited by my door all day yesterday til the book came. and when the postman came i ran to the end of the driveway to get it from him. im reading it right now and am only on page 300, which is quite pathetic. but so far, in my opinion, its too dark. i knew it was going to be dark, but i have to say i like the lighter stuff better in this series. not in all though. despite that, it still rocks.

First off, I am not reading it as fast as I can. My normal reading pace is just fast and I finished it in 8 hours. Nick Elser (also on our team) was sleeping over and after we bought it together at midnight, he finished after 5 hours, though that's not *fast* as that's his usual reading pace (crazy programmer boy reads too much). I am not about to read slower than normal or read fast and skim over details... just normal.

The movies suck and I have no clue how the studio plans on fitting everything in book 4 and 5 into a less than 3 hours long movie. The books have similarities to Roald Dahl and he was a great author. They've got a similar feeling to it when you read and everything just flies by. The language is simple yet the plot twists and characters are interesting to read.

Btw, the great thing about reading this book is that it provides closure on many things. Thus, it does not make you beg for the next book as much as the others did.

my dad got a copy for us today. except my mom gave it to my youngest brother, who reads really slow. like, it takes him an hour (well, almost) to read the comics in the morning, so yeah, i won't be reading it for like, a week, i'd say. oh well, i have two weeks of nothing to do, and I'll probably finish it within two days, so it's not like I'm missing too much.

My mom got the CD set yesterday!! We listened to the other four books the past two summers on the way to Canada for soccer...it's kind of like a mother-daughter thing...but yeah, the fifth book is good so far!

Book by cd?? That defeats the whole purpose of a book!

Btw, how long does it take for the reader to get through book5 at their pace? I find those audio books to be pretty slow... maybe I'd try it if they were a bit faster...

I'm currently listening to the book on tape with my sister. We're currently on the 9th of 17 tapes.

She's read all of the books, but we've also listened to each one on tape together. It's really very fun.

And I disagree that audio books defeat the whole purpose of a book.

Just curious...what do you think IS the whole purpose of a book?

I'm with D.J. on this one. I was dragged to the movies by friends, or else I bet I wouldn't have seen them. Although I'm pretty big on fiction, I'm on a philosophy kick right now. Maybe someday I'll get around to it.

I'm w/ both DJ and Amanda. I'm not a real fan of it, never have, never will be. But both my best friend and my girlfriend are set on forcing me to read them eventually. (I just nod but yeah right :p ) They just don't appeal to me period. But then again I'm a Left Behind fan sooooo that's prob. another reason y i just don't feel like reading em'. Ooo n' btw does neone else here read Left Behind? And if you do how the heck are they gonna write another book? and make it decent?

ive finished reading it now. well i finished yesterday morning...at like two in the morning. but anyways, i thought it was awesome, however there were some characters i thought seemed out of character like neville or lupin and especially sirius. but that's just my opinion. and i thought the last couple of chapters went by too fast. i liked how she followed the same patterns as the other books and i hope she keeps doing that. i have more complaints/praises but i dont want to give away the book for anyone who hasnt read it.

Just Finished...
 

I just finished reading Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix... and all I can say is wow.... just wow. Rowling has really outdone herself this time. After reading the last chapter I just sat there wanting more... I really liked the way some characters got more play in this book than in the past 4 *cough* Weasley, Longbottom *cough* I really wasn't expecting the person who died to actually die... it was a shock to me anyways. And now all I can think is... if you thought Harry was angry in this book... just think what he'll be like 1/2 through the next book...

So anyways, if you haven't even attempted to read the first book... I suggest you do... there's really no reason not to.

:D

I SURE DIDN'T EXPECT HARRY TO BECOME MORTALLY WOUNDED IN THAT QUIDDITCH MATCH AT THE END!

;) ;) ;) ;)

You're funny Dan...haha ha :rolleyes:

Way to make people think you are spoiling the book for them when you arent :p

lol yes... the way that bludger hit Harry... ;)

All i have to say is WOW!!! I haven't finished the book yet, i'm on chapter 32. I just read about the O.W.L.s. I enjoyed the book so far, but i'm too scared to continue reading. I just totally stopped reading. I don't wanna find out who dies. I thought i had if figured out in chapter 22, but then that person got better so i kept reading. Then after i read about Grawp i thought it was going to be the person who showed Harry and Hermoine, but then that person ran away. So i finished reading that chapter and it gave me a clue on who i think is gonna die now. I don't want that person to die, so i just stopped reading. If i don't read it it can't happen. So now i'm not planning on finishing the book until Harry Potter 6 comes out.
Well... i may continue reading, just to find out if Umbridge gets kicked out, i really hope she does. I also hope she gets punished by Filch and that she looses her job and can never find work again. That's just a wish, but it prolly won't happen, so i don't think i will finish reading the book. Oh Well.

...there are probably people reading this thread who haven't read this book yet and probably won't for a long time.

That said, they don't want it ruined.

I wasn't giving away any information, that's why i was just saying that person, that person, and that person. I was also just saying what i wanted to happen to Umbridge. but you prolly weren't talking to me, you were prolly talking to the people above me.
besides, they weren't ruining the book.

Hagrid dies! And the Dursleys die! They all get sat on by a giant hippogryph! And Harry's broom turns on him and he almost gets impaled! And there's rampaging bricks all over Hogwarts!
Shut up, tatsak, you weren't supposed to tell them all of the story!
Hermione dies from a Avada Kedavra curse from Voldemort! And Ron is brutally whacked over the head with a wand by Neville because Nevill eaccidentally missed Wormtongue!
Um... Wormtongue is LotR
Fine... Peter Pettigrew! And Sirius turns out to be part of Voldemort's army and is acting as a spy! Another basilisk appears! Dobby is another spy! Nearly Headless Nick is NOT a spy! But he's killed by Voldemort as well, when he raids Hogwarts!
Um... he's already dead, remember?
Stop interrupting! Hagrid's hut is flattened by a random Bludger! Harry goes off and does some acid tripping! He finds some ground to plant poppies!
Sorry, I should take him away. Now come on tatsak You know you weren't supposed to reveal 900 pages of the book in the quickest summary I've ever heard...




I'm back.. they can't catch me, i'm just editing my post... they won't notice us... We are telling the truth, now aren't we? Snape, he becomes Harry Potter's best friend and confidante. Lily isn't really dead, just got lost in the one of the muggles' malls. James, yeah, he had died, but Dumbledore tells Harry that it wasnt' Voldemort, it was actually just a bungee jumping accident. Harry fails all his OWLs and gets detained! As a cruel joke, Draco burns all of Hermione's books! Cho and Harry get their own room in a hotel near Diagon Alley and --
THERE you are! What were you telling them now? What were you going to say after that?? Oh man you have a horrible mind
But we was just telling the truth! We didn't mean any harm
Ah, come on, I'm taking you to a psychologist
Noo! Not the Devil! We will be good.. We don't want to speak to the Devil again..
You have to. Come on. Oh, sorry for the disturbance. tatsak has just lost his mind

I have no idea what the purpose to that post was. So far, no important detail of the book has been given away by anyone, Maddie. I don't expect anyone will.

I don't see what the point of that was, either. but i do have to admit, it was kinda funny....

Oh I forgot to say what I thought of the book. Must say, it was a different Harry than the other books. And it didn't actually SAY who won did they? Just.. Gryffindor gets 5 50 points-10, but maybe I just read over it. But overall I again, liked the book. :D

All right there is no way to post spoilers on this forum.:( I liked the book. It really was not obvious who was going to die.

the whole dying part was, um, anti-climatic, very much so.

to sum it up.

"haha- oh, i'm dead"

where's the shakespearian element to it? the long drawn out dramatic deaths? they're all british! :p

all in all, a good book, reveals a lot more about the wizarding world, but it has a very different feel to it than the past four. or maybe it's just me, i'm not sure. in anycase, i'll look forward to reading the 6th book in my 3rd year of college... (i just finished my junior year in high school)

Very true. This was one of the only flaws I had thought about when I read the book... It was kinda like "oh this character is dead.... so who's up for some tea?"

Rumors say the 3rd movie comes out in early 2004... until then, I can only wait :(

I think that the book has too much closure; there's no big cliffhanger at the end. If Voldemort had been killed, I would have felt fine with the series ending with this book. :p

OMG the thestrals sound so cute :DD

Well actually it did leave a lot of stuff open ended while also closing up most of the stuff that we have seen in the other books.Well actually it was pretty dramatic........

I would have to say that the movies are the worst part of the Harry Potter series... They're just... not good.

Well obviously they aren't going to be as good as the book, but I still thought they were good. Just to hear Ron say "Bloody Hell" did it for me :D .

Daniel Radcffe makes the movies good :) Not that he's that great of an actor

:D

Ok, so he's not "that great of an actor" but he makes it good. Somehow that's confusing to me and should be to everyone.

The majority of movie viewers aren't teenage girls (or gay teenage guys) and won't like a Harry Potter because it was just a horribly done remake. They did make improvements in the 2nd one but still not too great.

The guys at WB need to take a good long look at Lord of the Rings and start from there :)

ottid to that![

The second Lord of the Rings movie wasn't that great. Well, not if you'd read the book, at least.

No. I read the book (actually reading the series again for the 5th or 6th time right now) and realized that what I saw on screen was as good as anything I'd ever get. It ranked below the first one but as a standalone film, it'd be still awesome. People don't seem to like The Matrix Reloaded but it's because the first one set impossible standards. The second did a great job and it still provided a lot of fun and entertainment. I think that the problem with the Harry Potter movies is that WB is DELIBERATELY trying to cash in on the franchise whereas movies like LotR is the result of the hard work of a relatively unheard of director who just wanted to tell a classic story well and with conviction. If we could get someone like that to do Harry Potter, then perhaps we'd have something worth watching a second time around.

That's it, you're sleepin' on the couch tonight! But seriously, you are missin' out hun. If they weren't so great, there wouldn't be so many people who read them and love them. Not that my opinion is going to convince anyone who refuses to read the series. Oh well, your loss.

As if I wasn't dorky enough already, I learned a lot from reading this last book by writing down a few words I wasn't quite sure the meaning of and looking them up. So there I expanded my vocabulary from a book that some clueless people think are childish and pointless.

And as for Matt, if you really want to win my heart, you better start reading Harry Potter!!

Favorite one yet!
 

Well I'm not a patient guy so I'm going to skip reading every other post. I'll read em later. As of now here are my opinions on the book.

Harry Potter and the Order of The Phoenix was a master piece. Granted I know it could have been better at some points.
I found my self (a male just out of sophmore year and just turned 16) able to relate to Harry a lot. I thought Thestrals were very cool. (I'm about to start drawing one ^^) I'm quite sad that Sirius was killed off. But me and my friend Daniela theorize that he may not be done with. Who knows?
There were many hints, I felt, that Ron and Hermione liked each other. One being that Hermione kisses him on the cheek for good luck. Another in the three broomsticks. "..but I don't think you're ugly."said Harry. "Oh you're worse then Ron!" said Hermione. (did that from memory bare with me) I have a feeling that Ron's been hitting on her in private or somthing to that degree. Also Ron's constant jealousy at ever mention of Victor Krum.
Something I didn't like was Harry and Cho. I think Harry easily over reacted. And well he was pretty much a ditz around her. I can understand that he's never delt with anything like this but I think he could have handeled him self better. Maybe harry and Ginny will end up together? (Don't hurt me for last comment.) Hagrid's brother Grawp could have been left out all together but he wasn't that bad of an edition.
One of my favorite parts of the whole thing was when Mad Eye threatened Vernon. By the by I think Luna Lovegood is cool! She'll be important in the next book I foresee. I also think Neville should get to kill Bellatrix but we all know that wont happen. (*holds up a sign: Go Luna! Go Neville! Go Thestrals! Harry Learn how to handle a girl!*)

Well if you actually read that essay I pat you on the back.

Favorite parts: Mistletoe with Harry and Cho. Grawp saves Harry and Hermione from the Centaurs. When they leave for the Deparment of Mysteries on back of the Thestrals. Moody threatens Vernon. The Death Eater vs Order Battle. The battle between Dumbledore and Vodlemort and when Fred and George leave on their brooms.

"Give her hell for us Peeves"

"it unscrews the other way peeves"

:D

:(
Ahhh no choice now....
things I do for you
:rolleyes:

Re: Favorite one yet!
 

So it's safe to give away parts of the story now?

Okay then...first thing: The thestrals. It's odd that he only started seeing them this year, as he had seen his parents killed when he was a kid. Obviously the death referred to is Cedric's, but Harry saw the exact same thing in both cases: Not the actual death, but a flash of green light and a dead body falling. Quite an inconsistency there.

The battle at the end: It seemed to drag on forever, and Rowling seemed to have a really tough time coming up with synonyms for "jet of light" and gave up, using the same phrase some 50 times.

There's more, I just can't think of it right now, and I don't want to read the book again.

Actually, I disagree because he saw Cedric in real life while everything else was in a dream.

As for an inconsistency, note that in Goblet of Fire, Harry's dad comes out of the wand first. However, if this is *backwards order*, then it should be his mom and THEN his dad. Voldemort killed his dad and then moved in to kill Harry and his mom

I'm just glad she didnt kill Ron's dad or Hagrid, though of the old group of friends only Lupin is left. The thestrals are kinda scary but a really awsome concept. I think there are sort of clues that ron likes Hermione, but i also think there is clues that Luna like's ron so who knows. Anyone agree that Hermione seems to still be into Krum? and who agrees its a bit disturbing since its a good 4 year age dif.
But really- an incredible good book. If they make that into a movie i want to see how they decide to do thestels, harry's detetion with Umbridge and Kreature

I'm sorry if my spelling so offended you

THESTRALS! THEY ARE CALLED THESTRALS! ugh. Sorry. That just irritated me.

Anyhow, I thought the book was in general good, but I had a few problems with it personally.

For one, Harry is becoming this angsty brat throughout the whole thing. I'm not sure of that was JKR's intent, butif not, she could have easily figg'rd out a better way to portray his frustration rather than kicking the crap out of Dumbledore's instruments or storming around his room. Also, through the whole thing, he keeps reminding Ron and Hermione that he was the one who did this and he was the one who did that without anyone's help. It get's pretty fuggin annoying, you know?

As for Grawp, a complete waste of time. It did nothing for the story, other than give Rowling an easy out for getting rid of Umbridge. Granted, it was kind of cool to see her traumatized by the whole thing, but I doubt Grawp will develop into anything pertinent in the next book, either.

Harry and Cho. Ok. Cho's got a major inferiority complex as far as Harry talking to Hermione instead of her. Granted, it was a bad choice to bring it up in the middle of thier date, but I still think she could have handled it better. As for the mistletoe scene, nice work. I loved the feel of it and (lol) Harry's reaction to it. Harry really needs to learn how to talk to the fairer sex, though. I mean, come on. It's kind of pathetic.

I dunno. That's just my opinion on the book.

It wasn't just a dream. It actually happened. Supposedly his mom had died protecting him, how could he not have seen it happen?
And yeah, I'd have brought that up if the thread were about that book.

And yeah, teenagers do get annoying sometimes. If there's one thing you learn from 6 weeks together with the same bunch of teenagers, it's that.

Yeah I kinda thought the whole point was *not* to spoil the book for people that havent read it... I thought the book was really good, although a bit melodramatic at times.


Whats wrong with that? It seems wrong now, but 4 years is a really small age difference when you think 18 and 22 (or any other older ages ) versus 12 and 16.

Cory

I'd have to disagree on that one... I believe the giants are going to play a major role in this upcoming "war".

So, what do you guys think the next book's title will be??

"Harry Potter and the extreme mood fits"

Personally if I were Harry I would be a lot more angrier then he is in the book. I really doubt anyone here has gone through more bashing than Harry has in that one book except for maybe politicians.

Haha... yeah, I would be sooooo much worse. And the text of the book would include a lot of these: $#@*&^!!!!

I can forsee a whole series of books with Harry, Ron, and Hermione as aurors... Or maybe I just don't want the series to end, at all... :p

Rowling has said that she is only going to write seven books in the series so the series will end at the end of harry's seventh year.

i have to agree about the death going by really quickly, it took me a little while to register that he was dead.

Rowling should write a James Potter book... a kind of Biography if you will, covering Hogwarts events and other major things leading up to his death.

If you think about it, Rowling could do this for a number of characters... Hagrid, Snape, Dumbledore, etc.

i think that a lot about that history will be revealed in the next book because i think that it will be important to the plot.

on a different note... has anyone heard of the book BARRY TROTTER?? its a complete spoof of harry potter with all the names changed very slightly. i havent read it yet, but plan on doing so very soon. there is also one for the lord of the rings and its called bored of the rings.

I loved the book, always loved the series. Can't wait for the next one!:)

On a note: This thread is old.
On another note: He was a baby when his parents were killed. Isn't it true that your eye sight is not fully developed for a little while? And it's not like you could register death in your brain that young anyway. After all he didn't even know they were murdered until Hargrid told him in the first book. :D

I want my own Thestral.

Yeah...

I had to write a lot of articles for our school newspaper over the summer. One is a review on Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. Here's the result of it:


[edit]Lol, I looked at my post and saw that D @ M N was readily edited out by the forum script... hilarious.[/edit]