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Ryan Dognaux 27-07-2003 21:02

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Originally posted by DarkRedDragon
I don't see why off-seasons comps have to be the only thing happening. In my FBLA chapter, we have workshops, where people get together and learn new things. Why not do the same for FIRST? Honestly, a FIRST workshop where teams meet at a machine shop, or just a school, and swap knowledge and/or memories. There doesn't always have to be a competition for people to meet. Sure, you could have a comp and do the same things, but this is just an option!

Andrew W.K.

Very True. If I remember correctly team 45 hosts an off season workshop every year which covers practically all aspects of FIRST including the robot, 3-d design, animation, and traveling.

DarkRedDragon 27-07-2003 21:18

U know, i think we are on to something here. There are lots of rookie teams popping up, and a workshop would be absolutely vital. This should be something that is organized, because face it, its a lot easier to learn when u have time and no pressure. This should be something that FIRST should endorse.

Andrew W.K.

Libby Ritchie 28-07-2003 00:44

off season events
 
Let me tell you about off season events...from the perspective of someone that just finished putting one on. IT IS SOOOOO MUCH WORK! And though we had BAX Global ship everything for free for us, we are still hoping to just break even! We had 48 teams, only one field, a chairman's, animation competition. You don't realize how much money it takes to put this on. The little things add up and before you know it, it's all spent! (We also fed almost 1000 people as well.)

You would have to have someone that doesn't have a team put on these competitions because there is so much to do to organize an event. It would be so hard to both run a team and host an event at the same time. Though we all had a great time making the IRI happen, it's been a week and I'm still tired!

If FIRST is going to run these events, entry fees would still be high, if not higher, to cover salaries as well. It would be a great financial responsibility for a company to pick up. I would personally be scared that instead of a company sponsoring my team, they would want to pick up the event for the bigger publicity. (And my team stuggles for every little penny we get.)

Just a few thoughts while it's still fresh in my head and my eyelids are drooping! :)

Mike Martus 28-07-2003 08:06

Re: Off-season popularity... Could this be a new trend for FIRST?
 
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Originally posted by Erin Rapacki
Everywhere I look there is new interest to start an off-season competition. I have yet to find a count on how many offseason competitions occur every year, but I know that number is continuously increasing.

According to Dean, FIRST wants to become a household name, an American pastime, an activity as familiar to students as Basketball or Concert Band.

But here's the difference... basketball teams do not travel 200 miles to compete, they do it in a local town gym. Marching bands may enter small competitions at another area high school. Football teams get their local town and school communities excited by participating in Friday night rivalries.

FIRST is different... we commute, journey, and make pilgramage to attend our events. Something that is expensive and exclusive.

How do we then make FIRST a household name??

I think that someday, perhaps not in the near future but something that is inevitable... is to rid ourselves of huge regional competitions and hold events similar to the off-season competitions that are gaining so much popularity.

FIRST would have a list of requirements to meet and perhaps send a representative to the competition to make sure things are consistant, but overall... it would be a lot cheaper for teams when it comes to registration fees and travel expenses. And it can be just as much fun!

As with anything FIRST does, there would be numerous logistical problems to figure out... but what do you think? How could it work, what would be done, and how long before this becomes a necessity without changing the inital goals of FIRST?

This is exactly what many teams in Michigan, specifically Oakland county are doing.

Each fall there is a competition called OCCRA -Oakland County Competitive Robotics Association. There are 20 plus high school competing in local gyms on nights of the week as would your basketball team.

Each team has a kit of parts building a robot about the size of FIRST robots using the same controls. One major difference is that the robots are 100% student designed and built.

We are starting our 4th successful year.

Cost $ w/entry fee less than $800.00 per team including the robot build.

One of the goals is ti make robotics a school sport, played in the fall like a fall sport. We keep our robots all season and re-use the parts for the next season.

Leaders for this competition are teams #1, #33, #47, #65, #201. There are many other FIRST teams participating and doing the background work. All teams must take an active role in the organization, planning, running the events and so forth.

Several other areas of the country are looking at our format and are working on their own off-season - season of robotics.

Specialagentjim 25-09-2003 19:17

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Originally posted by Amanda Aldridge
don't worry elyse. by the time that would actually happen, you'll be married to jim with little robotics kidlets.;)
yaaaay robotics kidlets

I've been neglecting CD, so now Im going back and reading elyse's posts, heh

Elyse Holguin 25-09-2003 21:44

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Originally posted by Specialagentjim
yaaaay robotics kidlets

I've been neglecting CD, so now Im going back and reading elyse's posts, heh

haha, what he said... wait... that'll be a while, we have at least four and a half years til I graduate college, then what about graduate school?? FIRST isn't moving that slow... oh wait, we'd be on the same team... nevermind... ignore this post

Specialagentjim 25-09-2003 22:13

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Originally posted by goosefrom71
haha, what he said... wait... that'll be a while, we have at least four and a half years til I graduate college, then what about graduate school?? FIRST isn't moving that slow... oh wait, we'd be on the same team... nevermind... ignore this post
thanks for working all that logic out for me babe ;) saves me some thinking time later for other things.

And yes we will be

Jon Reese 02-10-2003 13:36

until there are more off season events (a texas one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
i dont care.... and frankly its the same for many other teams because us southerners dont have much of a choice........


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