Ideas about the new game
 

We all know that FIRST is going to bring back the autonomous mode, since it was such a hit last year, but what could the new game be? Something they might do is have a game object that would be way harder to deal with than this years boxes, perhaps CD's? Post your Ideas one what FIRST may do for the new game this year.

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Nobody officially said "Autonomous Will Be Back".. although I don't doubt it. Many people thought after they started with the 2 v 2 that they'd never stray from it, but then they went to 4 v 0. FIRST I'm sure will have some kind of fancy trick up their sleeves. I expect something affordable but effective and challanging. That's all I can say..

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I wasn't a part of FIRST for the 4 v 0 game (was that 2001?), so take what I say with a grain of salt...or a whole shaker. :)

The general perception I've gained from CD and the FIRST community in general was that the 4 v 0 game was, more often than not, boring for almost everyone involved. The competition between teams is definitely something that makes the game more exciting for spectators. If the game was as bad as I've been told, it doesn't seem like FIRST would want to have a 4 v 0 game again.

I think they should try something like 1 vs 1 vs 1 with a circular or triangular field. For the finals, do 12 teams of two.

I'm sure there would be even more exploiting of the game than last year, however.

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It wasn't that bad. Anyways, the Autonomous mode was awesome, it brought an angle that gave everyone a fair chance and really leveled the playing field.. so I hope that comes back. I'm still waiting for the 6 team game.. possibly 3 vs 3? or 2 vs 2 vs 2.... it would definately speed matches along, and if the game was good it would make for a great competition :)

It's been done already -- just prior to alliances. The result -- and biggest problem -- is that two teams end up teaming up against the third. It means that a good robot needs to be able to compete successfully against two other equally good robots. The equation doesn't add up.

i've heard that all the games have had some sort of similarity to the lego league games.....just what i've heard, but the lego league game was released today...

If you look at any two things long enough, you can always come up with a similarity :yikes: :D

I doubt they plan this :rolleyes:

Look long enough.. doubt they plan this.. bah.. its FIRST we are talking about here!

I started a thread here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...threadid=21911
that talks about some of the similarities and predictions.
I have reviewed all the FLL games, and there has usually been at least one fairly strong similarity between the games from year to year.
Especially last years game. They had a large ramp, and they had to stack a few things( if I remember correctly) .
Anyway, I just came up with an interesting KOTH idea, and its in that thread. I'm going to refer to here with ideas and possibly posting the annual FIRST hint once it comes around.

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I'm not saying they will have it again. Dean straightly said he didn't like how it turned out. I'm saying that's just the kind of curveball FIRST throws. Don't "expect" things to be in the game. Count on robust robots.. that's about all.

Okay, I still think that the autonomous mode will be back, I believe even Dean couldn't say it wasn't a great thing. But I think it might not be stacking, but if it is I think it will be something that would be harder to work with than boxes or goals.

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Yea I've been hoping to see 3 v 3 or 2 v 2 v 2 since 2002 (Yes not that long ago.) That with autonomous would make for a fun and interesting game. Teams may also be able to get into more matches and it may create a much more fan friendly game. That could also bring strategy to a new level.

-Pat

Hmm, well so far the game has been limited to a Max of 4 bots because of the 4 channel limit on the control system.
As I stated in a separate thread, the response from IFI that I received stated that all the info on the new control system will be posted on their site on October 1st.
Perhaps the new system will support more than 4 channels?
The game field would have to be enlarged, but as I've said before, if they're changing the controls, they're likely to change the field, If they want to.
So far we've learned lost about the games from the control systems, pre-season.
Especially last year, when we received info on creating autonomous routines with the eduBot. Also the annual FIRST hint revealed the ramp, and hinted at building things.
Keep an eye out for pre-season documentation. It's full of information!
I beleive Auto mode has been confirmed that it will be in at least the next 2 years by IFI.

For me I didn't like the auto mode but I guess it was ok... I agree though that they will go with it again this year... I think they will probably make auto mode longer like to say 20-25 seconds... I have no clue what they will do for this years game... I hope they do something with tubes like they did in I believe 1997 when my brother was on the team and TJ was able to get 7, yes 7 tires a time up on top of the scoring tree...