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Sunny Thaper

10-10-2003 02:55

Moveable Type

I figured some of you guys, haveing news sections on your site that need constant updating, might be interested in this.

http://moveabletype.org/

Basically MT is a perl based page generation tool which allows you to have multiple authors and even a comments system built right in in order to ease development time and even increase interest in your site altogether. I use it personally on my site.

http://www.iamynnus.com

Brandon Martus

10-10-2003 03:44

I'll second this, and say that I've used it once, and MT is a good blogging/news tool.

jonathan lall

10-10-2003 16:32

I intend to start using it as well on my personal site down the road. I can't decide if I should for my team's site, but it is by far the best publishing system out there.

Six Apart is also releasing something called Typepad, geared more toward the mainstream blogger. I'd recommend that to most people before trying Movable Type.

Sunny Thaper

10-10-2003 17:17

Typepad is actually MT (with a few additions) but hosted on Six Apart's servers meaning you have to pay them a monthly service fee to use the system. If you want to use it on your personal site, your best bet Is MT because Typepad is quite a bit expensive. There are a few other solutions out there too but MT is my personal favorite.

jonathan lall

10-10-2003 17:22

The thing about TypePad is it's based on MT, but has options for a more simplistic interface and is generally easier. Six Apart borrows from Blogger and other such company services. It is basically a blog-superiority widget that works on MT's 'failings' with less experienced or blog-only users.

Sunny Thaper

10-10-2003 17:36

Quote:

Originally posted by jonathan lall
The thing about TypePad is it's based on MT, but has options for a more simplistic interface and is generally easier. Six Apart borrows from Blogger and other such company services. It is basically a blog-superiority widget that works on MT's 'failings' with less experienced or blog-only users.

If you have the money to burn ;) Just reading the documents on the site is enough for anyone to become an expert with Moveable Type, provided they do understand HTML a bit. Typepad is great and much easier I agree but since it is a pay to use service that is hosted on another companys machine, it is not a viable solution for most teams/people.

HFWang

10-10-2003 22:22

There are alot of CMS's out there.

I've seen some really crazy ones (seen the krysalis PHP CMS? It requires the latest and greatest XML parsing modules, but it is... impressive).

I have yet to see a site really break down all the options available though.

b2 and its child, wordpress are pretty good... MT is good too. Haven't really tried the rest out.

djcapelis

10-10-2003 22:43

Then there's postnuke et. al, slashcode, and numerous others...

Anyone used those extensively? I prefer to write my own code... or use the internal CMS system that our company is working on.

HFWang

11-10-2003 17:07

I ended up having to roll my own for the stuff that I work on. It was a fun summer project, but it also means that I'll probably have to help the people I work with forever, because nobody knows how to use the admin interface.

I REALLY liked Krysalis, but most hosts don't have that level of DOM support available, so... *sigh* I tried some others, and PHP seems to have alot of average CMS but... I ended up rejecting them for various reasons. It also depends on what you want in a CMS. Stuff like postnuke lets you post articles/news, but if you want something that'll grab page content from a database (and also keeps the site "tree" in the db, so you can prettify URLs and such) you're going to be looking for a very long time.

Petey

12-10-2003 14:32

*shrugs*

pMachine works fine for me.

www.toydestruction.com

I'll check it out though, as well as some of these other ones.

--Petey

Sunny Thaper

12-10-2003 17:09

The thing with all the other CMSs you guys mentioned is they are all dynamic meaning search engines typically don't like them. With my MT website I have received tons of random hits from a variety of search engines. Also MT does an automatic rss feed meaning people don't have to go to your site to see updates. And quite possibly the greatest thing about MT and it's kind of CMS is that you can use external windows or mac programs to update the site, making it easier to update and even faster.

HFWang

13-10-2003 14:15

Quote:

Originally posted by Sunny Thaper
The thing with all the other CMSs you guys mentioned is they are all dynamic meaning search engines typically don't like them.

I know for sure b2 can do URL rewriting... so that the URLs end up like MT's do if you put the work in.

Sunny Thaper

14-10-2003 01:48

I didn't mean the urls but the actual pages themselves. The other CMS make them php or other scripting lang but MT makes all the files HTML as if you had created them manually.

HFWang

15-10-2003 01:37

which then has nothing to do with search engines. :D

if you wanted, i know you could write an output buffer that would dump everything to the filesystem... :P then it'd be the exact same thing as MT except you could turn it off and not have to rebuild. :D

Sunny Thaper

15-10-2003 02:36

Quote:

Originally posted by HFWang
which then has nothing to do with search engines. :D

if you wanted, i know you could write an output buffer that would dump everything to the filesystem... :P then it'd be the exact same thing as MT except you could turn it off and not have to rebuild. :D

What do you mean it has nothing to do with search engines? HTML pages, since they are static, are completely archieved in search engines meaning much more content for search engines to archive.

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