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Clark Gilbert 18-10-2003 14:38

Winamp5 Beta
 
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The folks at Nullsoft have completed the beta version of their upcoming Winamp 5 media-player. As you might have heard, Winamp 5 combines the capabilities of version 2 and 3. Imagine the slim and fast Winamp 2 with freeform skinning, video-playback and a lot more. The word is, that the final version will be released in early November.

Whats new?

* modern skin updates :

- fixed win98 crash with desktopalpha skins
- fixed pledit jumping on top of main window when docked and interacting with config drawer
- fixed avs hiding main window when docking to editor
- fixed vis gammagroup filtering
- fixed bgr color for pledit scrollbar background in v1.0 skins
- fixed rare crash on skinswitch
- added timers resolution autodetection
- added configuration of text scrolling speed
- added vis_cfg action to toggle vis cfg window via button
- fixed config drawer tabs moving the app when not selected
- added enable docking checkbox and docking distance editobox in prefs
- added tooltip checkbox in prefs
- fixed tooltip stealing focus from popup menus
- added support for noresize flag in embedwnd so that it spawns the right container
- added notransparency flag for embedwnd, made milkdrop use it
- fixed potential aot reset by embedwnd (ie, milkdrop)
- fixed slow text ticker, made it use timerclient_getSkipped to have consistent speed regardless of timer resolution
- added timer resolution in prefs page
- added link ratio & alpha in prefs page
- fixed empty popups in pledit menubar, commandbuttons and ml menubar when no playlist or devices are available
- fixed "mono" display when nothing playing, made songinfo update faster after clicking play
- separated link position & link width for main winshade window, changed default to link all
- removed move="1" for song title display on main window normal and shade modes
- fixed click on beatvis that would sometime fail to toggle active status
- added gammagroup xml param to vis objects
- made switching to windowshade open undocked video & vis when video is playing or vis is visible, docks back when coming back to normal mode

* made library able to update info on files that dont support tag writing when tag writing is checked

* fixed burning bug when using certain .WAV output settings

* enabled burning on multiple devices simultaneously

* made Winamp check to see if AVS or milkdrop is running fullscreen before starting video playback, and remove
fullscreen if necessary

* made AVS and Milkdrop check for video playback before going fullscreen (milkdrop uses fake mode, AVS complains)
(to avoid DirectDraw crash)

However, some features of the new version are limited to Winamp 5 Pro, which requires a registration. These features include:

* Rip your CDs into the popular MP3 format
* Rip your CDs at the maximum speed your computer is capable
* Burn your compilation CDs at your CD burner's maximum speed
* Have access to the latest Winamp 5 Pro features

Download Winamp5 Beta
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I thought it would be good to post this since iTunes just came out for Windows.

generalbrando 18-10-2003 14:51

The battle is on. I like them both and can't decide which one I should stick with. All I know is that I'm sick of Windows Media Player.

Victim of Fate 26-10-2003 22:08

It really whips the lamas...
 
power to winamp

Joe Matt 26-10-2003 22:12

iTunes represent. I don't care if it takes up more RAM, but man, that's an AWSOME applacation. iTunes is the most amazing music software out there, easy to use and very well done.

But I might try out WinAmp 5 for laughs & giggles, but why should I download something that limmits my ripping, burning, and other features untill I buy the full thing if I can have it all for free?

Ian W. 26-10-2003 22:28

Beep-Media-Player!

Oh, wait, that's only for nerds...

Yay for finally having a good GTK+2 media player, even if it's still in like, alpha stage now :p.

Frank(Aflak) 27-10-2003 21:12

I dunno, the one click playlist of mp3's to Audio CD in iTunes is just toooooo nice.

generalbrando 15-12-2003 23:47

Re: Winamp5 Beta
 
I downloaded a "final release" of Winamp 5 today. I can't find anything on Winamp's site about winamp 5, so I'm not sure how true that is. Anyone know why they aren't talking about Winamp 5 on their site?

Clark Gilbert 16-12-2003 00:10

Re: Winamp5 Beta
 
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Originally Posted by generalbrando
I downloaded a "final release" of Winamp 5 today. I can't find anything on Winamp's site about winamp 5, so I'm not sure how true that is. Anyone know why they aren't talking about Winamp 5 on their site?

I couldn't find anything on the main site for Winamp5. Maybe it's because they like their layout with Winamp 2 and 3.

There are some things about it in their forums though.

evulish 16-12-2003 10:53

Re: Winamp5 Beta
 
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Originally Posted by Ian W.
Beep-Media-Player!

Oh, wait, that's only for nerds...

Yay for finally having a good GTK+2 media player, even if it's still in like, alpha stage now :p.


I couldn't get the latest CVS build working.. The EQ was all messed up. But hey, XMMS will be going GTK2 on version 2.

generalbrando 16-12-2003 11:53

Re: Winamp5 Beta
 
www.winamp.com

Wow, I feel silly now. If you go there the first thing you'll notice is a huge thing for Winamp 5! LOL. I guess the releases we've seen so far were hush hush beta tests.

Brandon Martus 16-12-2003 12:38

Re: Winamp5 Beta
 
If you go to just http://winamp.com however, you still see the winamp 3 stuff (or at least you did a little while ago) the 'www' makes a difference in this case.

DanL 16-12-2003 17:12

Re: Winamp5 Beta
 
Seems Slashdot gave a favorable review of it.

Personally I've been sticking to Winamp 2 because it's fast, lite, and small. Crazy skins with alpha-shading are cool and all that, but annoying - all I want is something small to play my MP3s in the background (or rather, at the top of my screen) that doesn't take up 50% of my computer's resources. The 5-second bootup period of Winamp 3 also turned me off. Maybe I'll try this Winamp 5 now...

Yan Wang 16-12-2003 17:56

Re: Winamp5 Beta
 
Great job, winamp people. The features of 2+3 and the lack of bugs is very nicely done. Pro version is great.

However, my system can run iTunes for Windows just fine and I will have to stick with that. Its interface and iTunes music store is just unparalleled.

Trashed20 16-12-2003 18:30

Re: Winamp5 Beta
 
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Originally Posted by SuperDanman
Seems Slashdot gave a favorable review of it.

Personally I've been sticking to Winamp 2 because it's fast, lite, and small. Crazy skins with alpha-shading are cool and all that, but annoying - all I want is something small to play my MP3s in the background (or rather, at the top of my screen) that doesn't take up 50% of my computer's resources. The 5-second bootup period of Winamp 3 also turned me off. Maybe I'll try this Winamp 5 now...

I was looking at ram used by my winamp while runnign and it was 5 mb. My AIM takes 28. Small enough for me :)

Matt Adams 16-12-2003 18:48

Re: Winamp5 Beta
 
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Originally Posted by SuperDanman
Personally I've been sticking to Winamp 2 because it's fast, lite, and small. Crazy skins with alpha-shading are cool and all that, but annoying - all I want is something small to play my MP3s in the background (or rather, at the top of my screen) that doesn't take up 50% of my computer's resources. The 5-second bootup period of Winamp 3 also turned me off. Maybe I'll try this Winamp 5 now...

Absolutely right on, Dan! I'm using 2.81 and it does just what I need.

Represent.

Matt

Duke 13370 16-12-2003 19:36

Re: Winamp5 Beta
 
i'll stick with 2.91 just because i don't feel like d/l the new one.

yay for apathy and lazine...zzzzzzz...

evulish 16-12-2003 22:30

Re: Winamp5 Beta
 
Did anyone else ever use Winplay3? Made by Fraunhofer IIS.. same guys that developed MP3s in 1989. They have interesting papers (if you're interested in audio) on their site...which I can't seem to find right now. Hehe, and people thought Napster created MP3s.

Matt Krass 16-12-2003 22:58

Re: Winamp5 Beta
 
Pfft...winamp.......XMMS, JuK and beep-media-player all the way!

Go GTK!
Go Open Source!
Go Tux!

*gets stuffed in large black car by bill gates clones and raced away*

DanL 17-12-2003 00:22

Re: Winamp5 Beta
 
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Originally Posted by evulish
Did anyone else ever use Winplay3? Made by Fraunhofer IIS.. same guys that developed MP3s in 1989. They have interesting papers (if you're interested in audio) on their site...which I can't seem to find right now. Hehe, and people thought Napster created MP3s.

MP3s were created in 1989? You sure it wasn't just some early form of the codec or something? Seems to me like if MP3 was around then, those old '89 DOS games (Commander Keen, anyone?) would be using more than synthesized MIDIs. I honestly don't know anything about the history of the format, but '89 seems too early for me.

KyleGilbert45 17-12-2003 00:36

Re: Winamp5 Beta
 
[Not to stray off topic, but then what was the topic of this thread]

Here is a history of the MP3 http://http://www.mp3-mac.com/Pages/History_of_MP3.html

It states that Fraunhofer recieved his patent for the MP3 in 1989.

evulish 17-12-2003 01:23

Re: Winamp5 Beta
 
http://www.iis.fraunhofer.de/index.html is their site. They seem to do a lot of wave-based things. Interesting company. Lots of DSP and medical tech.

Also, for everyone talking about opensource.. you're being mildly hypocritical (as am I :)) because MP3 is a closed standard. A better solution is Ogg Vorbis. It's licensed under the LGPL and the compression is about the same as MP3. I have heard multiple stories from many audiophiles whether the quality-to-size ratio was better than MP3. All the music I rip now is in Ogg Vorbis. Check out www.xiph.org

Also part of xiph is Ogg Theora, which is, I believe, a video codec derived from On2's VP3 codec. Unlike VP3, Theora is distributed under the LGPL.

Anyways, sorry for getting off-topic. But I like this kind of stuff :)

(ooh ooh, FLAC rules!)

Trashed20 17-12-2003 21:44

Re: Winamp5 Beta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperDanman
MP3s were created in 1989? You sure it wasn't just some early form of the codec or something? Seems to me like if MP3 was around then, those old '89 DOS games (Commander Keen, anyone?) would be using more than synthesized MIDIs. I honestly don't know anything about the history of the format, but '89 seems too early for me.

Back then it took tons of processing power to make them, plus size was still a problem. Only in the pentium age did they become feasable to use, and now with cd roms and high speed internet they are easy to transfer. Anyone remember their 486's with VGA monitors, 5.5 and 3.25 floppy drives?


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