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dez250

31-12-2003 18:57

Re: My hints and guess on the Game in 2004!

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Originally Posted by Kevin Watson

HMMmmm... Sliding friction coefficient of dry ice and fans... Where have I seen this odd combination before... Yeah, I remember! It was four or five months ago when I was in this really long, boring MER meeting when I noticed that Dave Lavery (ever the clown) had built a hovercraft using a toy fan, two AA batteries, paper clips, and a Krispy Kreme donut. It looked like Dave was trying to deliver it to Pete Theisinger ("the goal"), across the conference table (I remember thinking that if I was Pete, I wouldn't want to eat that donut after having all of those skanky paper clips inserted into it). Well, it looked to me like there wasn't enough lift 'cause the Krispy Kreme only made it half way across the table before the Krispy Kremes maple-flavored goo stuck it to the conference table. I then distinctly remember Dave mumbling something about maple-flavored goo not sticking to dry ice. Well, I didn't think too much of it at the time (Dave is always doing stuff like this in meetings), but now I'm not too sure that Dave was just experimenting with the latest fad in mobility platforms for Mars exploration...

-Kevin

Kevin, dont forget that the true reason Dave [Lavery] likes Krispy Kreme's is cause in space his devices wouldn't feel the drag from them while delivering to the I.S.S. or Mars!
~Mike

aziandorkess

01-01-2004 01:15

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umm.. i think the suppliers listed on their website were from 2003... i don't think they released the list of suppliers for 2004 yet. btw, coca-cola is sponsoring the georgia dome... pepsi's not listed.
foam would be very interesting... i was thinking about easter eggs but there are a lot of reasons why they wouldn't use it... i think stairs are probable... as long as it doesn't act like the ramp last year. gah. anyways... hope it's really interesting. like the clown idea. =P

pauluffel

01-01-2004 15:25

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The autonomous definately needs to be more difficult to challenge the experienced teams out here, but if there is just more time spent in autonomous or it is at the end, it would be even more damaging to teams that are having trouble making the physical parts of their robot work properly, not to mention any complex programming. I'm thinking that the autonomous period will come at the end, but will affect scoring, such as any points scored during the autonomous period at the end will be be given a multiplier of 2 (like double salary for overtime, get it, overtime?....). This way it the autonomous would be very helpful for teams that could get it done, but it wouldn't hurt you too badly if you couldn't get your root to do anything productive by itself.

Should have thought of this back when we could propose game ideas, anyhow, I think there will be some sort of different weighting to the autonomous period, rather than just having it as a head start (though this would probably be a nightmare for refs).

maxgebhardt

01-01-2004 17:12

Re: My hints and guess on the Game in 2004!

If they do put auto mode at the end I think it is very well possible that all you need to do is get the robot into a team zone, then a small human period is allowed to ensure the robot is oriented correctly. this could solve issues caused by the robot not being correctly alligned at the end.

greencelery115

06-01-2004 17:41

Re: My hints and guess on the Game in 2004!

"Vmax = 10 ft/sec

Yes, there are two paths you can go by
But in the long run
There's still time to change the road you're on." (official clue from first blast email)

velocity maximum? * perhaps something to do with the field setup?

With the clue words "two paths, long run, and time to change the road" I think something funny is going to happen to the timing system...maybe a modification of the field to provide two pathways (perhaps one short and not able to modify itself, or one long...or elevated fields...). I wonder why they mentioned "long run". This is really bothering me.

Madison

06-01-2004 17:57

Re: My hints and guess on the Game in 2004!

Okay, so it's probably not necessary to go around posting the same thing in three different threads or whatever.

Just sayin'.

danielkitchener

06-01-2004 20:34

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Quote:

greencelery115 writes "Vmax = 10 ft/sec

Yes, there are two paths you can go by
But in the long run
There's still time to change the road you're on." (official clue from first blast email)

velocity maximum? * perhaps something to do with the field setup?

With the clue words "two paths, long run, and time to change the road" I think something funny is going to happen to the timing system...maybe a modification of the field to provide two pathways (perhaps one short and not able to modify itself, or one long...or elevated fields...). I wonder why they mentioned "long run". This is really bothering me.

Perhaps autonomous mode is optional - you can either choose to activate autonomous, and extend the amount of time you have to do stuff by 15 seconds (activate by 1:45 in a 2-minute match, autonomous turns on at 1:45 and stays on til 2:15) or choose to have less time (2 minutes) but with full robot control...Ah well. All we can do is wait til Saturday

maxgebhardt

06-01-2004 20:35

Re: My hints and guess on the Game in 2004!

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Originally Posted by greencelery115

what about if the robots start on the side of the field in a seprate 'road' thats blocked off from the main field except for an opening near the middle of the field and have a long auto mode where they go from the start position to the middle of the field. like a seperate starting zone. that would give an incentive to have a fast robot, and maybe max speed will be set. also if oppiset teams robots needed to go thru the same opening, it might mean you need to program a contingency in auto mode in case both robots get stuck in the exit. there would also be 'two roads' if its 2v2, so you can work with your alliance as to which robot will be on each side, and who will face the robot on the other alliance.

JohnBoucher

06-01-2004 20:42

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I read the hints and the bom and I believe I see a giant rodent wheel of sorts

maxgebhardt

06-01-2004 20:48

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Originally Posted by JohnBoucher

I read the hints and the bom and I believe I see a giant rodent wheel of sorts

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...141#post204141
your in the wrong forum mister!

Elgin Clock

07-01-2004 12:37

Re: My hints and guess on the Game in 2004!

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Originally Posted by sanddrag

Now all we have to do is figure out how where the drums will be in relation to the stairs and then what we will be having to do in autonomous at the end of the match.

Dare I say.. Donkey Kong?? lol

Drums, and "two paths you can go by" - Stairs and Ramps!! lol

JP_1163

07-01-2004 12:43

Re: My hints and guess on the Game in 2004!

Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

;)

khwoodside

07-01-2004 16:17

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Originally Posted by danielkitchener

thats kinda odd... cuz one of our team mentors had that same thought... but he may have gotten it from here... i dont know :confused: ... another thought of his was that maybe they do something to the point multiplyer based on the length of time you spend in autonomous...

also... weve been kinda thinkin that the field may be some kind of maze with movable gates... which would account for the long run and change of paths

DaBruteForceGuy

07-01-2004 16:32

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Originally Posted by maxgebhardt

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...141#post204141
your in the wrong forum mister!

haha yes i made that thread for a reason.... so that i could put wt i rly think in a forum liek this....
That BOM seems to have a lot of wood, and the toilette flanges along with that pipe tell me there will be some srt of bar to hang from... those wheels are curios too, rather than stair i believe there will be some sort of puck that we will be able to climb on..... all those pvc pipes brings back memorie of 2002's game so i see big balls and a big goal.....

... forgive me if this was already posted i havn;t had time to read the whole thread

maxgebhardt

07-01-2004 17:01

Re: My hints and guess on the Game in 2004!

you know that the clue is verbatim a line from Stairway to Heaven by zepplin...

Elgin Clock

09-01-2004 12:24

Re: My hints and guess on the Game in 2004!

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Originally Posted by maxgebhardt

you know that the clue is verbatim a line from Stairway to Heaven by zepplin...

:rolleyes: I'm not going to even say anything...

Buster

09-01-2004 13:30

Re: My hints and guess on the Game in 2004!

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Originally Posted by Elgin Clock

Since I already typed this somewhere else, please go HERE and read my hints on what I think the game will consist of in 2004.

If you have any guesses what my guess is, please feel free to share them here!!!

Oh, and I will reveal what I know (or don't know) on Monday so keep checking back at that link to see what I think FIRST has in store for us in 2004.

Elgin
:)

MY IDEA THAT WAS THOUGHT OUT FOR A LONG TIME........
A robot racing up/down a feight of stairs, then moving an obect up/down and repeating for an extended time until one team either gets all of the objects, or time runs out and one team has the most. alliances? There's a possibility. and more than two robots competing at once time is also believable. It is also possible that the objects that are being moved can be stolen or "borrowed" but that's just my interpertation of the hint and everyone's ideas. Might be the answer, then again it might not be. It's just my opinion. :yikes:

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