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Aidan F. Browne 13-11-2003 20:36

Only 58 Regional spots left...
 
As of right now there are only 58 Regional spots left....

Will they all be filled by this time tomorrow night?

Since there are only 4.8% of the total available spots left, my bet is YES.

GregTheGreat 13-11-2003 20:41

Re: Only 58 Regional spots left...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Aidan F. Browne
As of right now there are only 58 Regional spots left....

Will they all be filled by this time tomorrow night?

Since there are only 4.8% of the total available spots left, my bet is YES.

WE NEED MORE REGIONALS!!!!!!

FIRST here my call.

937 Teams and counting. I say 2 or 3 more at least!

-Greg The Great

Erin Rapacki 13-11-2003 21:47

NU wants to do the Blitz because ultimately... they want a regional. I feel so tempted just to go up to them and say 'hey, lets go try to put one together in 3 months?!'

It's unrealistic, but a girl can dream.

Bill Gold 13-11-2003 21:53

Re: Re: Only 58 Regional spots left...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by GregTheGreat
WE NEED MORE REGIONALS!!!!!!

FIRST here my call.

937 Teams and counting. I say 2 or 3 more at least!

-Greg The Great

I just did a little research (with the help of www.archive.org) and it appears that FIRST has added new events each year since 1996. It's even easier to see that they've added 3 new events (Detroit Regional, Colorado Regional, & Palmetto Regional) from the 2003 season to the 2004 season. In addition, FIRST has increased the capacity of at least 5 events most notably the Canadian Regional by more than 20 teams. Since there has been constant growth and no stagnation or retraction of events, I don't think there's any reason to believe that FIRST won't be expanding by a couple events next year.

GregTheGreat 13-11-2003 21:57

Re: Re: Re: Only 58 Regional spots left...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bill Gold
I just did a little research (with the help of www.archive.org) and it appears that FIRST has added new events each year since 1996. It's even easier to see that they've added 3 new events (Detroit Regional, Colorado Regional, & Palmetto Regional) from the 2003 season to the 2004 season. In addition, FIRST has increased the capacity of at least 5 events most notably the Canadian Regional by more than 20 teams. Since there has been constant growth and no stagnation or retraction of events, I don't think there's any reason to believe that FIRST won't be expanding by a couple events next year.
I think they should try to get a few (or at least one) thrown together in the next month. Like Aidan F. Browne their is only 58 spots left at regionals that are hard locations (geographically) for most teams in FIRST.

-Greg The Great

Jason Morrella 13-11-2003 21:58

reminder
 
It will be intersting to see how many teams sign up for three Regionals tomorrow.

Keep in mind, as many have pointed out in some other threads - there are not only 58 spots left. More than half of the regionals hold a few spots (2-5 on average) for late registering rookie teams, and will typically open some of these spots at the end of registration if they are unused. I know this has been done the past couple years.
two other things to keep in mind:
*every year a few teams decide they aren't prepared enough (not enough fundraising, support, resources, etc...) and withdraw towars the end of November.
*remember that the ideal number of teams for any event, if one "assumes" there will be an even number of teams in each match (say 4 or 6) is a multiple of 4 or 6. So if you see events with "odd" capacity numbers, odds are there are a few spots to be added.

So while the 58 currently open spots may fill, or come close, tomorrow - there will probably still be 50 or more spots opening in the next few weeks.

I'd say FIRST did a good job of predicting growth and started the exact right number of events for 2004. All teams who wanted to go to two events were able (which to me is the best indicator if they don't have enough regionals), and I would guess that less than 58 teams will go to three Regionals (they've never had that many go to three in the past, so if that holds, there is no need for additional events this year).

I would agree with Greg that FIRST will probably need 2 or 3 more regionals next year. Based on their almost right on prediction this year, I'd bet they are planning 2 or 3 more already for next year and the year after.

kevin.li.rit 13-11-2003 22:24

They may be adding more regionals and expanding others but I know for a fact the new york regional has gotten smaller and smaller, from 36 to 30, and now it's 26 or 28. The Annapolis Regional also lost 6 spots I believe.

Jason Morrella 14-11-2003 02:56

Quote:

Originally posted by Coffeeism
They may be adding more regionals and expanding others but I know for a fact the new york regional has gotten smaller and smaller, from 36 to 30, and now it's 26 or 28. The Annapolis Regional also lost 6 spots I believe.
you may have missed one the points I tried to make, the numbers you see are not the final numbers - and they weren't at this point last year either. People forget that last year they held spots also, and then opened any not used by rookies or wait list teams toward the end of registration.

I would wager that NY will have 30 teams (or even a couple more) and that Annapolis will have 60-64 teams. If not, then you can refer to this post and let me know how clueless I was (but know - you won't be the first to make that claim)

Lavery, Baker, and....oh, too many to mention - be quiet.

:D

dlavery 14-11-2003 08:17

Quote:

Originally posted by Jason Morrella
If not, then you can refer to this post and let me know how clueless I was (but know - you won't be the first to make that claim)

Lavery, Baker, and....oh, too many to mention - be quiet.

:D

MmmmgmggggggghhHHH!!

-dave (furiously biting his tounge as hard as possible, so the actual words won't pass his lips)

Andy Baker 14-11-2003 08:22

Quote:

Originally posted by Jason Morrella
If not, then you can refer to this post and let me know how clueless I was (but know - you won't be the first to make that claim)

Lavery, Baker, and....oh, too many to mention - be quiet.

:D

Oh, I'll be quiet... but I just want to make a mental note that all we will need to do is click on "search" and type in "clueless Morrella" and find this thread. However, in a few months, there may be gobs of hits for this way-too-general description.

:D

Andy B.

JVN 14-11-2003 09:40

Quote:

Originally posted by Andy Baker
Oh, I'll be quiet... but I just want to make a mental note that all we will need to do is click on "search" and type in "clueless Morrella"
Try out "Confused Baker"
or even better... "Absent-Minded Engineer"
or, my personal favorite "Jason and Andy Sumo Wrestling".

There are sooooo many interesting options!

;)

Nate Smith 14-11-2003 11:52

Re: Re: Re: Re: Only 58 Regional spots left...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by GregTheGreat
I think they should try to get a few (or at least one) thrown together in the next month. Like Aidan F. Browne their is only 58 spots left at regionals that are hard locations (geographically) for most teams in FIRST.

-Greg The Great

At this point, I think it's safe to say that no additional events will be added for this year....with registration almost completed (assuming they're going to be using the early- to mid- December cutoff as they have in years past - I haven't actually looked at the deadline calendar this year), and the amount of time it takes to get everything arranged for an event(venue-some of those contracts take a while by themselves, hotel packages, LOCAL SPONSORS, etc...), there's really not enough time to add anything as far as another event...

kevin.li.rit 14-11-2003 14:27

I retract most of my statement, but NYC did go down from 36 spots.

Beth Sweet 14-11-2003 15:21

Re: Re: Re: Re: Only 58 Regional spots left...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by GregTheGreat
I think they should try to get a few (or at least one) thrown together in the next month.
Easier said than done Greg! There's a lot of work that go into regionals, and as great as it is when we have ample numbers of regionals, we also have to respect that they're already going crazy trying to run all of the regionals that we have already! Not trying to be harsh.....

generalbrando 14-11-2003 17:10

Personally I think that as long as most teams (pay attention to the word most) don't have to drive for hours and hours or days to get to a regional, then FIRST is doing fine and we have enough regionals. The only other thing I would want to make sure happens is that everyone gets to go to at least one regional event - but that's more than taken care of...*points to teams registering for 3 regionals*

This isn't to say that I wouldn't like more though! :)


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