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Brandon Martus 03-12-2003 17:40

So how is it?
 
I know there isn't a finished style, and we're missing a ton of things (image gallery, white papers, etc), but so far, how do you like it?

apk 03-12-2003 18:13

Re: So how is it?
 
i'm lovin' it

I am already starting to like the many new vB features, and I can't wait until everything is added. Will it be done before 1-10-04 or don't we know?

Ryan Dognaux 03-12-2003 18:31

Re: So how is it?
 
Overall it's better, but I can't wait for the return of the galleries/chief delphi color. :cool:

Brandon Martus 03-12-2003 18:39

Re: So how is it?
 
Hopefully well before that.

If they keep to their word, Jelsoft will release the new style by Friday, and I have Monday off of work to devote to the site. So, I should have a good size chunk of it done before January.

Ken Leung 03-12-2003 19:15

Pretty good, just waiting for the featuers to come back
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon Martus
I know there isn't a finished style, and we're missing a ton of things (image gallery, white papers, etc), but so far, how do you like it?


It got a little confusing with the lack of a portal page, after I've gotten used to it for a while. Other than that, I think everyone is working fairly well. New features are useful and not confusing. I look forward to having everything in Chief Delphi colour and style again!

One thing I am a little worry about is people who do not want to use thread style and used to linear style will not be able to take advantage of the organizational ability of thread style. That in and of itself isn't too bad, except when the linear people start posting in thread style discussion you start getting messages with multiple topics and the structure of the discussion start breaking apart. Well, it's a minor concern anyway, because I haven't really seen anything so far, and a lot of people like to use the hybrid view. So I would encourage everyone to use that view. Maybe set it to the default view and people can change it to linear if they want to.

*edit* The other things I miss is looking up members base on their team number. And then there is the count down page as we are getting closer to FIRST season again. You know little features that was useful. But those takes time to come back, so I am going to wait patiently. *edit*

Other than that, everything is going pretty good. I just hope the existence of post count wouldn't encourage people to post more than they ought to. Maybe the reputation points will have some effect on them. Everything just started a few days ago, so it's hard to see what's going to happen.

Time will tell...

Mike Schroeder 03-12-2003 20:28

Re: Pretty good, just waiting for the featuers to come back
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Leung
It got a little confusing with the lack of a portal page, after I've gotten used to it for a while. Other than that, I think everyone is working fairly well. New features are useful and not confusing. I look forward to having everything in Chief Delphi colour and style again!


yea like ken i am totally confused without the portal page.

I like it though. so far so good

apk 03-12-2003 22:51

Re: Pretty good, just waiting for the featuers to come back
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Leung
It got a little confusing with the lack of a portal page, after I've gotten used to it for a while.

My only suggestion for the portal page is a login box right on the page (similar to how the login box it one the index twice). That would make logging in quicker and easier than ever before.

Duke 13370 03-12-2003 23:30

Re: So how is it?
 
Honestly i gotta say i'm not a fan, I really liked the old version better.
Can't quite put my finger on why, though.


Please don't hurt me Brandon

Clark Gilbert 03-12-2003 23:39

Re: So how is it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon Martus
I know there isn't a finished style, and we're missing a ton of things (image gallery, white papers, etc), but so far, how do you like it?

Love it, but I cant' wait to get the features back. Seems exactly like the Beta vB3 Chief Delphi you had set up awhile back, but it will be nice to get rid of this purple.

evulish 03-12-2003 23:39

Re: So how is it?
 
I'm not a huge fan. There's so much stuff... I don't even see a use for a lot of it. Heh.

SarahB 04-12-2003 09:29

Re: So how is it?
 
Overall, I love the new system. The toolbar at the top with the PM information and the new posts link is REALLY helpful. I’m even starting to like the purple :yikes:.

My only problem with the new system is the reputation points. Within 24 hours many people, including a very well respected person that should know better, were abusing the system. I understand the purpose behind the system, but right now it is turning out to be mostly a popularity contest. Perhaps we should just get rid of it? Or at least impose some more control over it, maybe only letting moderators give reputation points or implementing some sort of appeal system.

George1902 04-12-2003 10:14

Reputation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SarahB
My only problem with the new system is the reputation points.

I really don't see how it can be abused. Brandon described the reputaion system here, and it looks pretty fair. A person can try to give as many negative hits to another as they'd like, but there's criteria for when each will count and how much it will even be worth when it does count.

It will all work itself out in the end, I'm sure.

Jeff Waegelin 04-12-2003 10:21

Re: Reputation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by George1083
I really don't see how it can be abused. Brandon described the reputaion system here, and it looks pretty fair. A person can try to give as many negative hits to another as they'd like, but there's criteria for when each will count and how much it will even be worth when it does count.

It will all work itself out in the end, I'm sure.

Agreed... it will take time to sort itself out, but over time, the system should be fair and sustaining. Yes, it will be a little skewed at first, but that should sort itself out as the reputation system gets more use.

SarahB 04-12-2003 10:22

Re: Reputation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by George1083
I really don't see how it can be abused. Brandon described the reputaion system here, and it looks pretty fair. A person can try to give as many negative hits to another as they'd like, but there's criteria for when each will count and how much it will even be worth when it does count.

It will all work itself out in the end, I'm sure.

Certain people are giving positive reputation points to their friends and negative points to people they don't like. This doesn't matter too much when the person doing it is just your average poster, but when it is someone who's been around a while and has posted a lot, then the rating has a much bigger impact. Normally one would think that those kinds of people would be mature enough to restrain themselves, but as many people's reputations show, that’s not the case.

Remember, no matter how “god”-like you think a person is, we’re all still human.

Clark Gilbert 04-12-2003 10:24

Re: Reputation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SarahB
Certain people are giving positive reputation points to their friends and negative points to people they don't like. This doesn't matter too much when the person doing it is just your average poster, but when it is someone who's been around a while and has posted a lot, then the rating has a much bigger impact. Normally one would think that those kinds of people would be mature enough to restrain themselves, but as many people's reputations show, that’s not the case.

Remember, no matter how “god”-like you think a person is, we’re all still human.

Does the reputation thing even make much of a difference here? It doesn't effect how much you can post or what you can post (yet?), and most people are smart enough not to judge people by just some little counter. I see it more as a helpful tool for the user, rather than other users because that person will know if things they are posting are liked/not liked by people.


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