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Jack 10-01-2004 14:00

New FIRST Logo
 
Hey~

Well.. I was watching the kickoff today, and was noticeing on the splash screen in the beginning (and other parts throughout) that FIRST has modified the logo so that colors are no longer the solid red, white, and blue but gradients of the colors.

Honestly, I wasn't able to find (in the two minutes i spent looking) a picture of the new logo online.. but I know that they were using it at the kickoff..

What do you think of the gradient colors on the logo?

Personally, I'm not a big fan of it & hope that FIRST doesn't switch most of it's digital logos to that. The biggest reasons are:

a)It doesn't print well. Ok.. mabey it might print fine, but in terms of shirts embroidered with it, or other things which require basic colors, the gradients won't work.. I think it would be better to stay with the common solid logo, rather than have the two different colored ones.

b)and well.. honestly i just don't like the gradient one ;)

Jack

matt111 10-01-2004 16:54

Re: New FIRST Logo
 
we had no video for the first part of kickoff...then it was UBER LESS RES but i did notice that

personally i dont care. its FIRST's call let them do what they want :D

Jeremy L 10-01-2004 17:28

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you sure it wasn't just a bad connection? we had one that looked like that, but after it started it was blurred, so we ended up switching to a much better feed. just a guess.

GregTheGreat 10-01-2004 17:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy L
you sure it wasn't just a bad connection? we had one that looked like that, but after it started it was blurred, so we ended up switching to a much better feed. just a guess.

In any case I am backing up all my FIRST logos for future printing sakes for shirts or nething else that may need a clear, crisp, and appealing logo.

-Greg The Great

Ryan Dognaux 11-01-2004 01:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by matt111
we had no video for the first part of kickoff...then it was UBER LESS RES but i did notice that

personally i dont care. its FIRST's call let them do what they want :D

It was the feed and the room we were in... for some reason that was the only room that wasn't getting the Satellite feed.

David Kelly came to the rescue and gave a feed that was much better for the time being though :]

Blacknight 11-01-2004 07:33

Re: New FIRST Logo
 
Our video wasn't that bad but our audio had terrible static running through it..

m0rph3us 11-01-2004 08:23

Re: New FIRST Logo
 
From my experience with projectors (specially digital ones) is that they can never do pinkish color (Even though technically it should be red) as the one used in the first logo. That's why for a lot of people the logo didn't look very nice.

animater31405 11-01-2004 17:10

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FIRST robotics has changed the logo a little bit the gradient colors were also on NASA television, It wasn't just projectors at the kickoff doing that. The logo has always been changing and looking better. Haven't your teams been trying to find ways to make YOUR team logo looks better?

DanL 12-01-2004 01:06

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I think at most, it was a stylistic thing. The main reason for my guess is because gradiants don't print well. The majority of promotional items - t-shirts, business cards, coffee mugs, etc. - they have writing on them through a process called silk screening. Essentially it means they develop a template and burn ink onto the object from that template. Take a look at some of your t-shirts - if they aren't the cheap iron-on type, you'll see that all logos are only a few colors - two, three, or four. The general rule of thumb is that corporate logos should be able to be recognized in as few colors as possible. It's near impossible to have an even gradient using silk screening. That and low-color logos just look better.

Cappy697 12-01-2004 01:53

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i saw the gradient too... didnt like it too much either :( . too much conformity. it was nice and simple, clean the other way. i hope it was just a flaw but i saw the gradient too i hope they go back to normal

Joe Ross 12-01-2004 02:32

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Yes, I saw the gradients on the logo. However, in the "Using the FIRST logo of" of the communications section of the manual, it still refers to the red, blue, and white logo.

Noah 12-01-2004 02:42

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Personally, I thought that the gradients added a bit of depth to the image: despite the fact that you're looking at 3D shapes, it felt flat to me before. I liked the logo with gradients.

Elgin Clock 12-01-2004 12:35

Re: New FIRST Logo
 
As for the new(?) logo, this has been around for a bit of years now for Kickoff's.

It may just be a flaw in the feed, but as a teammate(?) of mine called it, "Oh, I see they brought back the "tropical FIRST" logo again.

So, I guess it's been around before..

maxgebhardt 12-01-2004 17:44

Re: New FIRST Logo
 
maybe they can make a sucky new logo, but we'll all use the old one, because it was "old skool"...

Tim Hawes 15-01-2004 22:55

Re: New FIRST Logo
 
Does anyone have a high-res copy of the FIRST logo? if you do, could you email it to me? timhawes@girderboot.com

Thanks... :)

robot180 17-01-2004 00:08

Re: New FIRST Logo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacknight
Our video wasn't that bad but our audio had terrible static running through it..

Our feed was fine. The speaker right behind me was extremely staticy, the one in front of me was fine. Matt, I think that was just the speaker you were under.

I didn't notice the new first logo. I think that they should slightly modify the logo to a slightly different combination of those shapes and the letters in "FIRST" so that it looks different, but still saying "FIRST" and using the same three colors.

mtaman02 17-01-2004 04:21

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I like both. The flat Red White and Blue was simple in design. We are in a new age and everyday somethings gotta change so that it is better for us. This new logo shown at kickoff gives it a more stylistic look to it. As i look at it from the webcasts archived from last week it looks more or less bicentennial :p say what you want i'll take either of the 2 ;)


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