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Matthew_H 10-01-2004 19:41

Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
We just checked our KOP and have found some things missing. The most important is the 40amp Maxi Fuse holder. How many other teams are missing items and are any missing some of the important pieces?


Ubergeeks

Tytus Gerrish 10-01-2004 19:50

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
were missing pieces to the prefab helical transmitions

KevinB 10-01-2004 19:55

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
We are missing various stuff -- at least the maxi fuse holder and a servo.

I also didn't see the rotating pneumatic actuator, but I think you might have to order it separately.

Joe Matt 10-01-2004 20:03

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
We are also missing some things.

KenWittlief 10-01-2004 20:14

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
this happened last year. Some parts were not available when the kits were assembled, and FIRST fedex'd em within a few days.

might be the same story this year - expect a team update or a bulletin on their message board in the next few days to address the misc loose ends.

FotoPlasma 10-01-2004 20:22

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
The Maxi fuse block is a clear plexiglass block. It is completely different from last year's block. It is a standard part from a car audio system.

DaBruteForceGuy 10-01-2004 20:24

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FotoPlasma
The Maxi fuse block is a clear plexiglass block. It is completely different from last year's block. It is a standard part from a car audio system.


most of the time they do forget stuff, just make sure to check for EVERYTHING, and just tell FIRST and they'll send it.

Andrew Rudolph 10-01-2004 21:12

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
We are missing some pneumatics hardware a servo and the maxi block.

sanddrag 10-01-2004 21:31

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
So far all that seems to be missing is a servo.

shyra1353 10-01-2004 21:36

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
you guys are all lucky ..we just finished inventory and we are missing full bags of things ... like there is no bag at all .. for more than one thing ... im going to cry




edit/: i am crying ...

Tytus Gerrish 10-01-2004 22:11

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
i havent found the yellow backup batery is it Even in here?

Bduggan04 10-01-2004 22:36

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
As I posted in another thread, I think that the yellow battery is the edubot battery or you can use any 7.2v battery. The rotary cylinder demonstration was meant as an example of a cylinder you can use now that they loosened the pnuematic restrictions. You can now use any cylinder rated for 60psi. Also as a note for anyone missing components, FIRST states in the manual that they in low supplies of spare components. All missing or broken kit parts must be reported to FIRST by January 16th. Double check to make sure you didn't overlook them (The pneumatic stuff is hidden well in the tubing bag) and read the manual on how to report lost items.

MichalSkiba 10-01-2004 22:41

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
We're missing an IR FET, in addition to some random mechanical parts. Our count is 7 individual pieces I believe.

D.J. Fluck 10-01-2004 22:48

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
If I am not mistaken, the Maxi Block was in the cardboard box.

Thats where we found ours, unless someone moved it over to there before I got to take a look in the kit

Stephen Kowski 10-01-2004 22:54

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
missing a servo, and i haven't seen the Maxi block either....

dprovin662 10-01-2004 22:58

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
I know we(662) are missing a few parts from the kit completly and others it says we should have 8 and we have 6

-Derek Provin
-Team 662
-Rocky Mountain Robotics

Not2B 10-01-2004 23:00

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
1 servo, several pneumatic parts, others... happened last year too, they'll fix it.

Jeff_Rice 10-01-2004 23:01

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
We are missing the terminals bag, an IR FET thingy, resistors, a servo, some pneumatics stuff, and I don't remember what else.

Joe3 10-01-2004 23:42

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
We, too, are missing a servo. It appeared that evereything else was there though.

Andrew Rudolph 11-01-2004 01:09

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
>From FRC Parts:
Read Section 5.3.1 All instructions are listed on how to obtain missing or broken parts and get them replaced. Extra parts are at a real low this year, so we just please ask, make sure you look carefully for everything before faxing your list to FIRST looking for replacements. Teams only have until JAnuary 16, 2004 to determine what parts in the kit are missing and let FRCParts know. After that, it's just too late.
ALso, Keep looking at the FIRST web site for updated parts information such as spec sheets and a listing of what parts will be available at competitions.


hope this helps you all

Doug G 11-01-2004 09:11

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff_Rice
We are missing the terminals bag, an IR FET thingy, resistors, a servo, some pneumatics stuff, and I don't remember what else.

Ditto for our team as well... Perhaps others are missing these same pieces and they will send a separate shipment with them. Can anyone else confirm these same items missing? The pnuematics stuff we're missing included the second Double Solenoid and some fittings.

generalbrando 11-01-2004 10:15

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
Every take a second look for that 40 amp fuse block - it should be there it just looks completely different!

If you're missing parts, check out the 5.3.1.2 "New - Kit INventory" on page 8 of The Robot. To get your missing parts you need to print out a copy of The Kit, write your teams number on every page, check off what's missing, and fax it to 603-666-0043, attn: FRC Parts.

Hope this helps - good luck to all!

Marygrace 11-01-2004 22:57

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
We are missing a whole bunch of stuff too. A servo, some spacers, and a whole bag....I think it was the window motor bag....one of the motor bags. We have to call FIRST tommorow, glad to hear we aren't the only ones. Its a big relief. :)

shyra1353 11-01-2004 23:17

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff_Rice
We are missing the terminals bag, an IR FET thingy, resistors, a servo, some pneumatics stuff, and I don't remember what else.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug G
Ditto for our team as well... Perhaps others are missing these same pieces and they will send a separate shipment with them. Can anyone else confirm these same items missing? The pnuematics stuff we're missing included the second Double Solenoid and some fittings.

we are missing all of this stuff and more, the more including 2 motors, a lot of the spacers, feed-through terminal block, the back-up battery, and a lot of the items that were listed as Loose in the Red Container, as well as a few other things.

Jay Lundy 11-01-2004 23:22

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
We're missing one of the PC boards for the current sensors.

EStokely 12-01-2004 02:14

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
Adding to the overall noise and to feel better after I post it.

We (360) are missing 1 servo, the maxi block (we looked for it, its just not there) And the precut parts for the plastic gear housing are all messed up. 4 of some zero of others.

Happy about getting the window motor connectors this year (we didn't last year)

Having fun in the North West

wun 12-01-2004 09:51

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
We are missing:
  • 1 servo
  • 1 master link
  • 1 half link
  • 1 IR LED
  • Some various phumatic parts
  • Something to plug up the big yellow ball after it is blowen up
  • Various spacer seals
  • 1 solenoid valve
  • And, most importatntly, a rubber band :yikes:
And we have too many...
  • 2 3/4'' aluminum spacer pipe

bigqueue 12-01-2004 09:59

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew_H
We just checked our KOP and have found some things missing. The most important is the 40amp Maxi Fuse holder. How many other teams are missing items and are any missing some of the important pieces?


Ubergeeks


Our 40A fules holder was in the Software box. (If I recall correctly)

That box also had a couple of sprockets and the schematic for building the beacon.

-Quentin

:yikes:

EIROBOTICS86 12-01-2004 16:08

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
anyone missing the pneumatic cable

Quine 12-01-2004 19:33

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
Our team is missing the following parts:
Servo
Terminal Back
Pneumatics Kit
Software/documentation
Sprockets
40amp Maxi Fuse holder
Other misc things...
We don't have the materials to program yet, looks like we'll be using a 3rd party compiler.

Meredith Rice 12-01-2004 19:54

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
We are missing 43 items total. Lots of the same items that other people are mentioning too (servo, master link chain, IR beacon, all but two kinds of spacers, solenoid valve.....list goes on). I guess FIRST will have received quite a bit of faxes come Friday.

Aignam 12-01-2004 20:21

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tytus Gerrish
i havent found the yellow backup batery is it Even in here?

The backup battery is in the EduRobotics kit.

M. Hicken 12-01-2004 21:10

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
i only had time to check in the red crate today and im missing a servo and a bearing plate

question: the white LED's, does everyone have just the bare leads, not the longer wired and housing with them? mine are just plain old led's no extra thing like the amber or green

Tom Bottiglieri 12-01-2004 21:15

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
yeah it seems as if everyone is missing a servo.. so are we.. and both 2 inch gear things...umm i dont know what they are , but theyre fat and come in the same bag as the chain

generalbrando 12-01-2004 21:18

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by M. Hicken
i only had time to check in the red crate today and im missing a servo and a bearing plate

question: the white LED's, does everyone have just the bare leads, not the longer wired and housing with them? mine are just plain old led's no extra thing like the amber or green

That's what ours were like.

generalbrando 12-01-2004 21:19

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
I know that some of you really are missing that 40 amp maxi block, but for those that are still lost, would a picture help? I don't have one, but I'll make a point to get one on here tomorrow if you want.

dddriveman 12-01-2004 21:22

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
We are missing our C programing stuff and a loose bag containing the sprokets and many other importANT PARTS. How do why go about notifying first?

generalbrando 12-01-2004 21:25

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
Read page 8 of "The Robot"

Jedi Padawan 12-01-2004 22:52

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
We are I beleive (I haven't double checked yet) but preliminary counts include a 40 amp maxi (may have been found I'll have to check with my mentor who did some extra digging) and a servo motor (thats all I know of electrically) and I know we are missing the servo for a fact, as well as other odds and ends pieces. :ahh:

Rickertsen2 12-01-2004 22:57

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dddriveman
We are missing our C programing

That came w/the edubot.

Alaina 12-01-2004 23:45

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
A guy on my team made a fairly large list of things in which we are missing.
One thing I can remember is all of the steel spacers.

tchescow 13-01-2004 13:10

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
We've got some missing parts:

Blue:
Electrical bag (small): one servo, one PWM/Relay Y cable
Sensor bag: IR Beacon - resistors
The whole terminal supply bag

Red:
The whole loose bag (spacers, pipe..)
The whole documentation bag

Separate box:
Loose (Visio, Visual Studio C, Front Page..)
Miscellaneous bag
Direct (Inventor...)
Edu replacement board

anish 13-01-2004 13:18

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
I'm not too familiar with the kit of parts but i inventoried and i couldnt find the following from the checklist:

Blue Box:
CIM/Globe Bag - Key Stock, Metric
Electric Bag (small) - 1 Servo
Pneumatics SMC - Pneumatics Kit, Fitting, Male Run T 1/8 NPT ~1/4" Tube
Sensor Bag - IR Beacon - Resistors
Loose - (MM) Spacer, Steel
(TR) Spacer, Steel
(GB) Spacer, Pipe, for Gear Box, Aluminum
Valve SIngle Solenoid

Red Box:
Documentation Bag - Discovering Fluid Power CDROM
Pneumatics 2 - Pneumatics Kit, 0-160psi Gauge for Norgren Regulator, Wika
note: we did get a 0-60psi gauge, no brand on the item or box, perhaps this is a typo in the KOP?

Please help me figure out, maybe some of this stuff is attached to other items so im not finding them. This seems like a lot to be missing... If there are a few things i can square away before bugging FIRST itd probably help them out.

Thanks for the help,

Anish.

Greg Needel 13-01-2004 14:44

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
we hav everything except 1 servo and that inroduction to fluids cd-rom

tchescow 13-01-2004 15:14

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
We're taking time to review everything... other things are probably missing... for now, we could find the same 0-160psi Gauge for Norgren Regulator, Wika problem... :rolleyes:

ReggieB 13-01-2004 20:11

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
4 Attachment(s)
Our missing list:
-Spacers (see other thread)
-pneumatics kit, fitting, male run T 1/8 npt-1/4" tube. SMC
-THe pneum. kit fittings straight and elbow that are x20 seem to be 2x10, with half black plastic half white/orange
-Servo (although it looks like everyone is)
-one of the gearbox pillow block half
-need to double check on maxi block, didnt see it, but might have been looking at the wrong thing.
-the double solenoid seems to be in 2 big and 4 small pieces, is this normal?
-when they say '2' under double solenoid, do they mean the two pieces, or two solenoids?

Here are pictures of ALL of our pneu. parts, is this what other people have? Specifically the stuff on the right in the wide shot. Also, what's that other black thing, flat, about 1cmx2cm, thin, 3 holes in it?

Sachiel7 14-01-2004 11:10

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
I think we got a bit lucky! We got TOO MUCH in our kit!
We have 2 sensor bags, our spacers are the wrong amount (too many) of each. I know we aren't missing anything big... the plug for our yellow ball. But most of its there, just some odds and ends. Oh, and I think we're missing a single solenoid.

Ryan Albright 20-01-2004 17:53

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
we just got our kit today and we are missing alot of stuff

|Everythign to do with the robot interface
sensor bag
one of the pneumatic bags
and a bunch of loose stuff

Arefin Bari 20-01-2004 22:45

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
we are missing a whole electrical bag, sprockets and lot more..... :ahh:

Drew Hopman 20-01-2004 22:53

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
Blue Box:
Control System accessories:
- Relay Module (spike)

missing 4

- Power Supply for Operator Interface missing 1

- Speed Controller (victor 884) missing 4

Control System Box:
- Radio Modem for Robot Controller missing 1

- Radio Modem for Operator Interface missing 1

- Robot Controller missing 1

- Operator Interface missing 1



Sensor Bag:
- Ir Beacon- victor board missing 1

- Current Sensor – Tantalem Capacitors missing 2

- Ir Beacon- Fet’s missing 2

- Ir Beacon Led’s missing 10

- Ir Beacon- resistors missing 8

- Ir Beacon – 3pin connectors missing 2

- Current Sensor missing 2

- World Beam Diffuse sensor w/screws missing 2

- Ir Beacon- photo detector (receiver) missing 5

- Current Sensor- Printed Circuit Board missing 2

Pneumatics – SMC:
- Pneumatics Kit, double solenoid base ported valve, SMC missing 2

- Pneumatics Kit, flow control, SMC missing 6

- Pneumatics Kit, fitting, straight ¼” tube, SMC missing 20

- Pneumatics Kit, fitting, 90 Elbow 1/” tube, SMC missing 20

- Pneumatics Kit, Tee Union ¼” tube, SMC missing 5

- Pneumatics Kit, Fitting, Male Run T 1/8 npt~1/4 tube SMC missing 5

- Pneumatics Kit, ¼” OD tubing, SMC missing 1

Seat/Window Bag:
- Nippon-Denso Motor, Window, Right missing 2





SEPARATE BOX:

1. Documentation Bag:

- FedEx Pouches

missing 2

- Discovering Fluid Power CDROM

missing 1



RED BOX:

1. Loose:

- Valve- Single Solenoid missing 1



I think that we were the only team that didnt recieve anything for controlls.

Ryan Albright 21-01-2004 18:11

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
we didnt receive anyhting for controls except the joy sticks

Robo-Knights 05-02-2004 12:17

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
Where can we purchase the :

pneumatics Kit, Fitting Male Run T 1/8 NpT 1/4 tube

Pneumatic Kit pressure switch opens @ 115psi closes @95psi :

registered665 05-02-2004 19:52

Re: Who is missing stuff from KOP?
 
yea, we at team 665 is missing two middle motor mounts. FIRST gave us two extra rear instead. go figure. we were wondering if anyone would like to trade with us.


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