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Bduggan04 10-01-2004 22:06

Re: Falling off the bar... :\
 
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Originally Posted by Swampmonkey
I could be wrong, but won't the new little yellow backup battery have any part in continuing to allow your robot to hold onto the bar without it releasing when the power is cut at the end.

No, the backup is to prevent the controller from reseting if the robot draws too much current. It will in no way supply power to any other part of the robot. Any device liek you describe would have to be latched before the match ended or lock as soon as it lost power. When a robot is disable like they are before and after a match, there is no output signals from the controller.

Tytus Gerrish 10-01-2004 22:08

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i havent found the yello batery inb the kit, Is it even in there?

Swampmonkey 10-01-2004 22:10

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Originally Posted by Tytus Gerrish
i havent found the yello batery inb the kit, Is it even in there?

They showed it on the video, I haven't seen the kit yet though

Bduggan04 10-01-2004 22:10

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Originally Posted by Tytus Gerrish
i havent found the yello batery inb the kit, Is it even in there?

After reading and rereading the kit list, I read the build rules, and I think the intent is to use the EduBot Battery. I wish they would have said this specifically. However, I also believe it states you can use any 7.2v battery.

Edit: I checked, rule R39 confirms this.

mtrawls 10-01-2004 22:15

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A falling robot? Now really, I wouldn't advise anyone to build a robot that falls from the bar. Afterall, it is 9' up from the platform, or thereabouts. That is definately so high up, that you will WAY exceed the expressly stated limit of Vmax=10ft/sec :)

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Originally Posted by Bcahn836
Do you really think that a 130lb robot can do any possible damage to another 130lb robot??? hmmm... lets think about this one really really hard....
*cringes at the thought of unshielded electronics, and memories past of bending aluminum under forces much less than this*

Swampmonkey 10-01-2004 22:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bduggan04
After reading and rereading the kit list, I read the build rules, and I think the intent is to use the EduBot Battery. I wish they would have said this specifically. However, I also believe it states you can use any 7.2v battery.

Edit: I checked, rule R39 confirms this.

Ahhhhh!!!!!!

They said it was in the kit when they did the video I thought :\

Tytus, didn't you build the duck tape hovercraft with the edu kit?

Tytus Gerrish 10-01-2004 22:21

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ya, that had a blue 7.2 for the controller but the propultion and the muffin fans were powered by a 14.4 drill batery

KenWittlief 10-01-2004 22:28

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Um people...

why would you want your bot pulling itself all the way up to the bar?

you dont get any extra points for air under your bot

off the floor means millimeters, not meters

Etbitmydog 10-01-2004 22:34

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Originally Posted by Jessica Boucher
Maybe not serious "smashing the bot to pieces" damage, but its certainly possible for robots to get caught on eachother, or to break a piece off.

I remember in 2000, when a robot was hanging off the bar and demolision squad, (which had a super fast robot at the time) actually charged at a robot hanging from the bar and sent it flying. It was one of the coolest things I've seen. :yikes: That's was all part of the game though. Teams know they have to build a sturdy robot so it's something to expect.

Clark Gilbert 10-01-2004 22:34

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Originally Posted by KenWittlief
Um people...

why would you want your bot pulling itself all the way up to the bar?

you dont get any extra points for air under your bot

off the floor means millimeters, not meters

I could see doing it to avoid contact from other robots, although that doesn't seem like it would be much of a problem like it was in 2000. I remember a few times at Nationals where robots (one was from an impact from us) almost spun around the bar because they were hanging low.

dddriveman 10-01-2004 22:39

Re: Falling off the bar... :\
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KenWittlief
Um people...

why would you want your bot pulling itself all the way up to the bar?

you dont get any extra points for air under your bot

off the floor means millimeters, not meters

I like this. On my team during the brainstorming today everyone wanted to hang like three feet of the ground. Alot of them are rookies so they do not yet understand the difficulty of this and the time it will take. I on the other hand want to avoid the bar all together. It sound like to much time and danger

Swampmonkey 10-01-2004 22:44

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Originally Posted by KenWittlief
Um people...

why would you want your bot pulling itself all the way up to the bar?

you dont get any extra points for air under your bot

off the floor means millimeters, not meters

Because all another robot has to do is smack into you and send you flying off the platform, or at least knock you enough to detatch you from the bar..

Or they could hit you and damage your hook or other lift device :(

If they can't reach you, chances are they can't harm you! :p

illumanat'i 10-01-2004 22:48

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Originally Posted by KenWittlief
Um people...

why would you want your bot pulling itself all the way up to the bar?

you dont get any extra points for air under your bot

off the floor means millimeters, not meters

i definately agree, you need, at most, an inch to count, no room for giant falling robot chrashes

and making the robots built to handle what will be thrown at them should be expected... robots get hit, so build them tough

last year, if your robot could fall over on the ramp, you should of put in protection
this year, if your going to try to do chin ups, put in extra padding and prepare for the worst

KenWittlief 10-01-2004 22:53

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there is no room up on the center platform for another bot to get a running start and smack you hard

whatever you grab the bar with, it can lock on with a death grip (till death do we part)

Swampmonkey 10-01-2004 23:06

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Originally Posted by KenWittlief
there is no room up on the center platform for another bot to get a running start and smack you hard

whatever you grab the bar with, it can lock on with a death grip (till death do we part)

Ah, true :P but if you're only a few inches or so off the platform, all another robot has to do is get one wheel on you or the edge of their robot leaning on you, then that added weight could damage your hook or lift system, so you'd have to factor in it being able to support more weight..

When it comes to robots being destroyed, I'm pessimistic, don't want all our work to go down the drain because of something so minor :ahh:


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