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Aignam 11-01-2004 17:52

Legality of Blocking Ball Chutes
 
Is it illegal to block the ball chutes that feed the human players?

animater31405 11-01-2004 17:55

Re: Legality of Blocking Ball Chutes
 
As far as I know, the goals are the only thing you can't block so i think that the ball chutes are all good.

Jon K. 11-01-2004 18:27

Re: Legality of Blocking Ball Chutes
 
yes the ball chutes can be blocked. But you might not want to do this becuase if you were to read the manual when it gets to how the qp and new this year RP's work you want your opposition to lose by as little as possible.

Todd Derbyshire 11-01-2004 19:51

Re: Legality of Blocking Ball Chutes
 
... U better make the most durable wings possible cuse ask 71, 365, or any other teams about this strategy parts will get broken every round. Your pit crew will have to become an ER team and try to pick up the pieces of your robot. This is also an expensive strategy and not one for the weak at heart. With that said yah its legal to do if you wanna go that route.

Adam Y. 11-01-2004 19:52

Re: Legality of Blocking Ball Chutes
 
Quote:

U better make the most durable wings possible cuse ask 71, 365, or any other teams about this strategy parts will get broken every round. Your pit crew will have to become an ER team and try to pick up the pieces of your robot. This is also an expensive strategy and not one for the weak at heart. With that said yah its legal to do if you wanna go that route.
Why all the robot needs to due is park it's rear-end in front of a gate and then the gate is blocked. If the robot can't handle a few hits then there is something wrong.

abeD 11-01-2004 20:06

Re: Legality of Blocking Ball Chutes
 
I think its gonna be worse than a "few hits"

I know if someone tried to block my ball shoot well I would ram them continuously and as hard as i could.

Trinora 11-01-2004 20:09

Re: Legality of Blocking Ball Chutes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abeD
I think its gonna be worse than a "few hits"

I know if someone tried to block my ball shoot well I would ram them continuously and as hard as i could.

Unless they were moving or had a chance to be pushed away, I'd counter by herding their balls away from their shoots, moving goals, and genreally whining.

Damian Manda 11-01-2004 20:10

Re: Legality of Blocking Ball Chutes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Y.
Why all the robot needs to due is park it's rear-end in front of a gate and then the gate is blocked. If the robot can't handle a few hits then there is something wrong.

Remember though the there are two chutes in use during the match, so if you want to truly block all points for that alliance, you robot would have to cover both openings, which are about 15 feet apart. Then you would need a large extendable are, which could cause the problems with robustness.

Trinora 11-01-2004 20:16

Re: Legality of Blocking Ball Chutes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Manda
Remember though the there are two chutes in use during the match, so if you want to truly block all points for that alliance, you robot would have to cover both openings, which are about 15 feet apart. Then you would need a large extendable are, which could cause the problems with robustness.

Or just use both alliance robots, or roll back and forth?

stuy694 11-01-2004 20:40

Re: Legality of Blocking Ball Chutes
 
Or you could make the much talked about but never made two part robot that could break into two halves and block both ball chutes. :D

BlueOrion 11-01-2004 21:33

Re: Legality of Blocking Ball Chutes
 
Just drag your goal (or theirs) in front of the chute you want to block, depending on your strategy.

~BlueOrion~

KenWittlief 11-01-2004 21:34

Re: Legality of Blocking Ball Chutes
 
If any bot tries to block our corral openings, our bot will drag them to the highest yard-arm and hang em by their wires

making sure they are touching the ground with one wheel :c0

while you are busy blocking a corral opening, the opponent bot can be busy stuffing balls in the other one, going after the 2x balls, dragging your small goal away from your team - capping your goal with a 2x ball so you cant score

why would you want to tell your own bot to go sit in the corner? Does it have a bad attitude?

Joe Matt 11-01-2004 21:39

Re: Legality of Blocking Ball Chutes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Todd Derbyshire
... U better make the most durable wings possible cuse ask 71, 365, or any other teams about this strategy parts will get broken every round. Your pit crew will have to become an ER team and try to pick up the pieces of your robot. This is also an expensive strategy and not one for the weak at heart. With that said yah its legal to do if you wanna go that route.

Couldn't agree more. Design to play the game, not controll it.

That's why we've damned Sparky 3.0 to the bowls of JR Tucker High.... muahahaha

Todd Derbyshire 11-01-2004 21:40

Re: Legality of Blocking Ball Chutes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KenWittlief
If any bot tries to block our corral openings, our bot will drag them to the highest yard-arm and hang em by their wires

making sure they are touching the ground with one wheel :c0

while you are busy blocking a corral opening, the opponent bot can be busy stuffing balls in the other one, going after the 2x balls, dragging your small goal away from your team - capping your goal with a 2x ball so you cant score

why would you want to tell your own bot to go sit in the corner? Does it have a bad attitude?

Ken I agree with you that blocking only one ball chute is not worth the time and effort. Now if you were to block both ball chutes what would you do???


May all of your balls and goals belong to us!!!!

KenWittlief 11-01-2004 21:58

Re: Legality of Blocking Ball Chutes
 
anything that is wide enough to block both corral openings would have to be, what? 24 feet wide?

assuming your bot is in the center of those wings, thats a 12 foot lever

I dont care how much traction or weight your bot has, if I grab the end of the 12 foot lever I will drag your bot all over the field - turning the wings into pretzels in the process.

BTW - rules state nothing can detach from your bot. nothing can be tethered either


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