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Gabriel 12-01-2004 22:14
Re: Video Editing Software
 
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Originally Posted by matt111
Using A Mac Lol Rofl If U Want One There Are Two Sitting In The Corner Of My Basement...mac=bad
I'll take 'em. I'm not a windows-hating zealot but I love my Mac.

SteveC116 12-01-2004 22:39
Re: Video Editing Software
 
Well our team has an old G3 sitting unused in the corner of the shop. I guess I could try to get iMovie running on it. I'm not sure I will be able to get Premire. Maybe if the school has a copy I will, but if they don't I doubt that the team would get it for our group since it is expensive - and I don't want to get it illegitimately.

Bduggan04 12-01-2004 22:47
Re: Video Editing Software
 
I've heard that the new Premiere pro is really good, but premiere six is still above average. I've used old versions of avid cinema and hated it, but I haven't used more recent versions of Avid products. Windows movie maker is terribly simple and limited and not worth using unless you have no other options. As for iMovie, I dislike it as well. The transitions are its only saving quality. After four years of OSMTech, I have developed a hatred for all things mac and found that PC users really feel their programs are annoying to work in. I'd like to try some of discreet's high level software as well as Final Cut Pro.

Gabriel 12-01-2004 22:50
Re: Video Editing Software
 
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Originally Posted by SteveC116
Well our team has an old G3 sitting unused in the corner of the shop. I guess I could try to get iMovie running on it. I'm not sure I will be able to get Premire. Maybe if the school has a copy I will, but if they don't I doubt that the team would get it for our group since it is expensive - and I don't want to get it illegitimately.
You'll probably not be happy with iMovie's performance on an old G3.

SteveC116 12-01-2004 22:57
Re: Video Editing Software
 
Alright. I'm going to look into seeing if anyone at the school has Premier and if we could use it for our animation.

Kyle Fenton 12-01-2004 23:04
Re: Video Editing Software
 
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Originally Posted by andy
In the for what its worth catagory,
Avid is the industry standard.

I learned imovie first, then casablanca (I hate that machine), then I tried to run Final Cut 1 on a new (now old) imac. Poor choice. Imagine having to render something and the status bar says "render time: about three days"

This is when my dislike for macs began. Also, if you edit/use a mac for AV stuff, example FCP or Photoshop (this is coming from a PC user) BUY A THREE BUTTON MOUSE!!! Using all three buttons is so much quicker then using just one! Or you could get a tablet :) I want one sooo bad!

I digress...

Then I moved on to Premire and After Effects which I used for about 2 years and now I use Avid DV Express. Super nice!

Avid has real time rendering so there's no waiting for effects to be applied. This makes Avid the most powerful video editing program on the market (in my opinion) however it is also the most costly. *sigh*

Good luck this year
There really isn't any industry standard per se in video editing field. I have seen people use multiple types of non-linear editors. Avid and FCP are very widely use.

FCP has really evolved from the first version, and there a lot more features in version 4, than in version 1. Also FCP is not meant to be on a pro mac, not a consumer mac. So you are obviously going to get poor performance on a consumer type mac. In FCP 4, a lot of the rending stuff is real time or close to real time on a high-end g4 or a g5.

Kyle Fenton 12-01-2004 23:07
Re: Video Editing Software
 
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Originally Posted by SteveC116
Alright. I'm going to look into seeing if anyone at the school has Premier and if we could use it for our animation.
Another option worth considering might be Quicktime Pro. Doesn't have any transtitions, or fancy stuff, but it gets the job done.

Ryan Dognaux 13-01-2004 06:54
Re: Video Editing Software
 
Premiere is awesome, the thing I love about it is you can export movies as a filmstrip and import that into photoshop, then edit your movie in photoshop and put it back into premiere. Great for effects.

djcapelis 13-01-2004 22:42
Re: Video Editing Software
 
Other than jashaka, there are several other really nice open-source video editing tools:

virtualdub, cinelerra, filmgimp

I have used the first two personally and the 3rd is more for touch up and really advanced stuff... studios use it for basically doing special effects manually.

It's the wonderful image editor, the GIMP, modified to operate with video.

Cinelerra runs only with linux and has a bit of an attitude problem sometimes. VirtualDub is great but is limited and doesn't have the interface you might be expecting... (it's still absolutely wonderful however) And runs on windows only... (drat it, ah well... what's wine for!)

falconmaster 13-01-2004 23:43
Re: Video Editing Software
 
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Originally Posted by SteveC116
I have a bunch of questions:

What have you used in the past aside from MAX to make the final animation? Are there any Open Source video editing programs out there?
How is Windows Movie Maker
Should I try to get my hands on a Mac to use iMovie?
Try Sonic Foundry's Video Factor, Easy to use and professional results, not too expensive either. Sonic Foundry just got bought out don't remember the new name though, but try out their website www.sonicfoundry.com

andy 13-01-2004 23:44
Re: Video Editing Software
 
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Originally Posted by Kyle Fenton
There really isn't any industry standard per se in video editing field. I have seen people use multiple types of non-linear editors. Avid and FCP are very widely use.

FCP has really evolved from the first version, and there a lot more features in version 4, than in version 1. Also FCP is not meant to be on a pro mac, not a consumer mac. So you are obviously going to get poor performance on a consumer type mac. In FCP 4, a lot of the rending stuff is real time or close to real time on a high-end g4 or a g5.
True, I heard that FCP 4 is alot like Avid, havn't seen it yet though.
For a long time I used FCP I have used versions 1,2, and 3. I am not dissatified with FCP but dissatified with macs. They are too expensive compared to simalarly equipped PCs. This does not make financial sense to me. Also I am using Premire Pro right now and it is very much better then previous versions. Its almost better then Avid and FCP, my other favorites. And its alot cheaper.

Good luck this year
-Andy

djcapelis 16-01-2004 14:44
Re: Video Editing Software
 
Cinelerra is cheaper than all of these.... unless there's a good video editing tool cheaper than free...

Has a few problems, but it's a solid tool if you know how to use it. Nice keyboard based interface if you want too.

Max Lobovsky 21-01-2004 20:54
Re: Video Editing Software
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by djcapelis
Other than jashaka, there are several other really nice open-source video editing tools:

virtualdub, cinelerra, filmgimp

I have used the first two personally and the 3rd is more for touch up and really advanced stuff... studios use it for basically doing special effects manually.

It's the wonderful image editor, the GIMP, modified to operate with video.

Cinelerra runs only with linux and has a bit of an attitude problem sometimes. VirtualDub is great but is limited and doesn't have the interface you might be expecting... (it's still absolutely wonderful however) And runs on windows only... (drat it, ah well... what's wine for!)
VirtualDub isn't designed for editing per se. I think it's more useful as the first (i.e. video capture) or last (i.e. encoding program in your workflow). Actually, scratch that, it was designed for editing originally by Avery Lee, but now i think its major use is what i said above. Including for-pay and for-a-lot-of-pay programs, it really is the best for these stages from what i used.

djcapelis 23-01-2004 02:21
Re: Video Editing Software
 
I used to use it just for encoding... now I use mencoder... which is even better.

But yes, it's more niche application than really a complete environment, but it can be used as such. :) All depends on the person.

Nick Mac 16-02-2004 23:16
Re: Video Editing Software
 
I use windows movie maker for all of the videos i make with friends...its very easy to use. The only real problems I've had with it is the limitation there is on editing. An example is that you will have a little trouble editing out the middle of scenes, it is far easier to edit the middle and end. But i really enjoy using it.


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