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Team 60 is scaring me...
WOW! THAT IS IMPRESSIVE! You look great. Ford-Kingman is going to be a real playing in 2002 that much is certain. Joe J. |
hmm... i cant figure out how they grab the goals... position that is.
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That robot brings a tear to my eye it is so beautiful. Team 60 has produced another great machine. Only hope they practice driving more this year.
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completely terrified...
I was completely terrified when I first say the pictures... And I still am, but just not as much anymore.
Through out the years of competing with them at California regionals, this 2002 robot of theirs are the most intimidating one by far. I also heard that the pictures posted earlier were from a while ago, meaning they have as much driving practice as they will need. At least right now I am little more prepared in planning strategy if teams are going against them... It's going to be tough, but not impossible. |
very nice, very clean, hehe wait till u guyz see ours, its really nice
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Oh yeah, forgot to say, to Team 60:
GREAT JOB! This robot looks really really cool. No matter who win or who lose, this year is still going to be a great year! Looking forward to see you at competition! |
Is it me or does it look like the arm can spin the goals around the body?
That would be really cool. Frightening, but cool. |
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Team 60 Looks impressive as always! Great Job i must say.:)
Akshay Dodeja Team 115 Monta Vista Robotics |
Wetzel it can. look in the center there is a drill motor there to turn it.
I want there team to start posting. I saw a member named team60 on but they wont post so i say. Come on! |
yeah, real scary:/
I suppose those window motors and the nuematic pistons are to push against the goal's top board and gain additional traction through their weight? Now that's something formidable....with the weight of two few hundred pound goals and four motors driving it, it'd be real tough to push that robot around.
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That is a defensive feature of there bot. It spins the goals so you can't get near it to steal the goals without getting pounded.
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Gracious Professionalism out the window.
Does anybody but me think that their robot fits more under the category of "attack bot" then..."ANYTHING ELSE". I wanted to make a bully this year but we weren't allowed to. Not that that is why i'm complaining, we have a great robot, but that aren't you all thinking the same thing "If they get up to speed my robot is in many, many pieces". Goodbye gracious professionalism.
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I would call trying to take a goal away from them and geeting smashed 'driver error'...
Oh, and did they make a 'spare' or just repaint it? Spare? |
very gracious bot
The 60 robot is anything but an "attack bot". If they are able to lift the goals and have the time/ability to make them rotate, there is nothing wrong with that. In one scenario, they might be stationary or moving towards a scoring zone and another robot drives itself into those goals (or tries to attack 60), that is not the fault of 60. However, in another scenario, if 60 got the goals rotating and then started moving towards and after robots in order to bash them with the goals, then yes, I would agree they would be "attacking".
This is one of the teams we know very well, and can predict with great confidence that they have probably planned on scenario one and have no intention of "attacking" robots. My take is that they designed this ability to rotate the goals as 'encouragement' or a deterrent to attack robots to leave them alone - basically, I think they built the "anti-attack robot" robot. If so, I think it's brilliant. Another year, another great Kingman robot. Congrats to the Bionic Bulldogs. |
Amazing job team 60. Hats off to the design team and the people who built it.
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Scoring - not attack/defense
It seems to me that the ability to rotate the goals would make it very easy to move them into (or out of) scoring zones as needed... I don't think the Bulldogs were thinking of swinging goals around to hit other robots either in attack or defense. I can't imagine Glenn or his team doing anything like that. Sure, they will play hard, but not mean.
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I saw the spining and though of Son of Wyachi. Yes that is a Battlebot, but I lok at it as a succesful engineered machine.
I think that defense entered into the mind of whomever was designing it. Looking forward to seeing them at nats. |
Are you able to pick up one goal without having the other one to balance it?
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Team 60, as usual you guys did a great job and built an awesome machine. It looks like you are going to give all those east coast teams a run for their money.
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1. How to get in between both goals. 2. And if you robot can only pick up one goal instead of two. Cody, Team #538, AHS Dragonlsayers |
The answer is visable. The center boom rotates so it would be possible to just grab one goal and drive it around. The robot just has to back into the 2nd goal and then lift both. To me it looks very simple (after the fact) and then it rotates them to any angle or spins for protection.
To me its weakest point looks like the tires on the wheels and the width of the wheels. they seem to have built a TANK on a bicycle, I may be wrong but I wish it was our bot. I dont think their planning on a spining defense becase with a 181lbs of Goal on the other arm flying around is going to continue if the other side is sudenly stoped by another robot or Goal being pushed into it. It will be interesting to see how they handle them selves. Nick .02c |
alTHOUGH TEAM 60'S ROBOT LOOKS GREAT...
I for one am not scared... Every robot can be beat...and it seems that team 60's disadvantage will be thier speed off the block. It looks like they are situated witha 60" base...there fore they need to take time to get their robot level. Now what would happen if another bot grabbed their goals before they got there? That would debunk their whole strategy. And If another two gaol grabbing robot has those goals..and team 60 grabs on and tries to rotate the goals out of em...That will most likely be called a DQ for intentional damage. At least i would call it that.. Every team can be beat... But no one can beat the mathematics behind the game Gabe G. Head of Design Team Team 384 |
More to Come!!
I would just like to remind everyone that our webpage has many more pictures of our 2002 Bionic Bulldog. Also, keep checking the Chief Delphi Gallery for more pictures, because there are more to come in the next few days. Good luck to all of you in these last few days of building time, and all of us at Team 60 look forward to seeing everyone at competition!
__________________ Here it is!! The 02 Bionic Bulldog from Team 60. Check out our web page for more pics. http://www.team60.nethttp://www.team60.net |
How come I can never get to any other 2002. What looks like it should be a link isn't.
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Indeed, where are these pictures of you robot? The only ones there are of 2001.
<Edit>Found them.Found them They were rather hidden. </edit> |
hey! great job team 60!
when's the consumer model coming out? ;) can't wait to see it! -anton |
I see the same problem that Cody from Team 538 saw.
Maximum width of robot...30". Distance between goals...32". With there grippers up and their arm 90 degrees to the body of robot the end of the arms may fit between goals but there won't be any way they can lower their grippers. If they lower their grippers, they may be able to grab the front of the goals (front being the side that faces them) but than when the rotate the arm one goal will pivot in the gripper. The other goal will lodge against their robot. I can see no way that there robot can grab 2 goals at the same time. Wayne Doenges |
If you just take your time and think about it...
If you just take your time and think about it, this robot’s hooks are obviously wider than 30". Notice I say hooks instead of their arm.
Their yellow rotating arm will start with a initial position of point toward the corner of the robot. This way, that arm's length is actually diagonal of the robot base. Then, the silver hooks actually start with an initial position of pointing upward. Those hooks' pivot is between the two "60" plate in the center, and it can drop down onto the rotating yellow arm anytime during the match, and sit on the seat motor attachment for lifting goals. So, really, those hooks have a potential length of 3~3.5 feet on each side, making a total width of about 6~7 feet. I think that's enough to grab two goals. I think team 60 is just a little smarter than building a robot that doesn't work. ;) While questions about their robot are great, I think we ought to hold back some of the negative comments. There is always something we can learn from this robot (and any other teams’). Team 60 is willing to share information about their robot even though they didn't have to. Let's applause them for a job well done. |
6 pneumatic cylinders?
We have always been impressed by the Bulldogs machines and it looks like they have done it again.
But I do have a questions. It looks like that they are using 6 pneumatic cylinders, 4 for the gearboxes and two for the arm. Aren't we limited to 5? |
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The FRC board misspoke and said 7, then they corrected themselves and said 5. 5 is the max number you can use on your robot. I only spot 5, however. Two for lifting, two down low extending into what appears to be gearboxes, and another really big one that I can't see what it is for. |
Angle iron?
There is one small problem with team 60s goals. They are missing thier angle iron on the edges of the goal. That is going to add wieght. Have you compensated for that wieght that you are missing? Do your goals weigh 180 pounds each? You might want to check!
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If you look on the gallery photos there are also two cylinders in the front gearboxes.
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Look a little closer!!
We wish to congragulate Ken Leung on his thoughts about our robot. Look closely at his messages because Ken is on the right track! If you look closely at the pneumatic cylinders you will discover that not all of them are being used as some might think.
Also, Team 60 has always played with "gracious professionalism" and we intend to continue our tradition. You can count on us playing hard and playing till the last seconds of the match. However, it has never been part of our stratgey to intentional harm another robot, and we will continue that tradition. The goal spinning is a product of our design and was never built with the intent to harm another robot. We applaud all of the discussion on our robot and continue to look forward to hearing your thoughts and reading your responses. Good luck to all of you and thank you for your input. Also, we appoligize if our web page has been hard to navigate and here is a link to our 2002 Bionic Bulldog. Team 60http://www.team60.net/02pics.htm |
Slightly out of date, but...
I was pointed to the picture of team 60's robot yesterday by Tom Schindler (team 177) and I was literally speechless. If that robot works as well as I think it will, they will accomplish alot. Excellent job team 60! |
Just me?
It might just be me but the seat motors did not come with the bendable shafts like on the robot seen in this post, nor is it on the additional hardware list. Did team 60 know this?
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never mind i just noticed ours was missing from our kit :( , argh! That would have helped with some designs!!
Someone is getting a call :rolleyes: |
If you like team 60 you should watch team 105. they look like team 60 but they use the gyro chip to spin the tower one way and there robot another all at the same time using something else to lift and brace themself to the ground.
they hit the goals at 3.7 sec. from the start. then move at less than 1 ft/sec afterwards. I think team 60 and there design is going to be a common one. who ever can make it stronger and better with come out on top. |
Loud Noise?
Awsome bot. I don't want to be anywhere near it once it starts rotating those goals. One question...
What will happen if while spinning (2) 181lb goals, the 3rd 181 goal is forced into it (worst case, tangential, and in a direction oppossite to the rotation)? It will be interesting (and possibly loud). Scott358 |
well that aint too bad
I am really hoping we don't have to face this team in the comp., on the other hand you all should ba afraid of team 151's, we will rock the house! I think the "turret" style is menacing and hard to get goals with, but you all think this is impressive wait till u see 151's, ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
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However, would team 60 then be hit with a DQ for damaging the field? I call to mind the rulings that a robot pushed sideways and riping the carpet is at fault, not the pusher. |
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Team 60's bot does rock.like i said b4!!
How fast can you guys get to the goals? I mean what if another bot took those goals from you b4 you got there..what woudl you guys do then.. Also, What if the goals werent lined up straight...can you guys grab from any angle? Things to think about Gabe |
I agree with gabe, how fast can you guys reposition yourselves?
Also will you guys be at Chatsworth next weekend? We will be so comeon over and grab a bagel! |
Don't you guys have robots to work on?
I'll have to defend 60 on their robot and design.
Rest assured, they have considered what is legal and illegal material and their intentions are well within the spirit of the competition. I've known them to be great people, and enjoyable to talk to. In any case, I look forward to competing with or against them. Either should prove to be a fun match. I also look forward to asking some more detailed questions during competition, their robot is always eye candy :) Good luck guys! only 8 days left. |
sorry
Im sorry for the outburst of stupidity from one of my team members. His moronic abilities cannot stop him from spamming forums. I have to conradulate team 60 on an excellent robot. Well have to wait to see how things work at competetion. Thanks for ignoring the idiots post and would anyone with admin abilities please delete it. Thanks.
Tyler Forbes 151 Wildcards |
Get a Look at the Bionic Bulldog
For all of you interested, we are going to Chatsworth next weekend. So if you would like to see the 2002 Bionic Bulldog you are more then welcome to come check it out. We look forward to seeing everyone there. As for detailed information about what we can do...well, i guess you'll have to wait and see us in action!
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As usual Team 60 has a great robot. Powder coated blue and yellow.
My first thought after *wow* was. Hey we built the robot that they need as a partner :-) 25 balls. And this wierd drive train..... I hope I can see you guys at Nat'ls. Since Seattle and San Jose are the same weekend I won't have the pleasure there. Just wonderful.... Eric Stokely (I was with 258, the Sea Dawgs) |
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Team 60,
Awesome robot Kingman. My hat is off to you (anyone who knows me can tell you how hard it is to get my hat off my head). The Sea Dawgs look forward to competing with you guys in San Jose and Nats! Stoke-Dawg / James, Send me some more pics of your robot :) |
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james yes it does because I second bills wish
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team 60 excellent robot btw! It looks very good. Look forward to seeing it in person.
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